Except when you’re running full pelt it’d be a little redundant to have your arms behind your back.
Refs & VAR 2020/2021 Discussion
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More like swimming
This is surely a legit tactic now?
Isn't this how Liverpool scored vs Spurs in the CL final ?
Yes. Exactly how Liverpool got their pen in the CL final. Sissoko was pointing to tell a teammate where to focus, and Mané (I think) just - as you propose - scooped the ball onto the arm.
Is Ayew also trying to block the shot? Why is his hand is literally the same position as Lindelof unless that's how your hand naturally moves?Want to explain why one hand is waving in the air and the other is by his side then?
Keepers can't dive without taking a step. The reason why the step is made is so they can get the power to dive to the side. The rule goes against every instinct that keepers have had drilled into them since they were kids. What's next? No run ups for penalties?
He was absolutely not running full speed.
Want to explain why one hand is waving in the air and the other is by his side then?
because he’s running backwards. Generally, when you run, one arm goes up whilst the other goes down, then up and down, up and down.
Fine, he was running though, and running and defending with your arms behind you is daft.
It was never a pen. I hate lindelof but to give that as a pen is just ludicrous.
I doubt the shot would even reach the goal
Now compare that to Gabriel at Arsenal just now! they didnt even give that ridiculous
I doubt the shot would even reach the goal
Now compare that to Gabriel at Arsenal just now! they didnt even give that
ridiculousIt's possible to defend like that when you are facing the ball which is what Lindelof does. Much harder when you are running full spend constantly moving directions to match the striker.
Neither was a pen but if you give the first based on the new rules, then that is a penalty too. fecking useless.
The penalty decision was a joke, both of them. Yes, we deserved to lose. But that penalty happened at a critical moment in the game. Terrible decisions.
That's not the motion his arm is making its more of an overarm movement, almost like he's swimming. When you sprint it looks completely different to that.
Wow, the inconsistency in decisions between Gabriel and Lindlelof is alarming.
Well, you can't use your arms to block shots can you so it's in your best interest to not use them.
Farcical stuff....
That Gabriel pen is a disgraceful decision.
Was just going to post this, and glad the commentators mentioned it too. When VAR is involved, it's hard to understand such obvious inconsistency.
It was going a fecking mile wide.It was never a pen. I hate lindelof but to give that as a pen is just ludicrous.
I doubt the shot would even reach the goal
Now compare that to Gabriel at Arsenal just now! they didnt even give that
Atrocious decision, the Gabriel one just now is more of a hand ball yet not given...
It wasn't a clear pen, otherwise Atkinson wouldn't go to look for it and VAR would give it immediately. The inconsistency will be there, VAR or no VAR. Same with the pen retake. Some refs won't give it and others will. There was always inconsistency and there always will be with humans as refs, no matetr the rules, since some don't apply them the same and judge subjectively.
Yup, it was meant to take the obvious wrongs decisions out of the equation, all it's done is highlight then even more!!
Zero inconsistency, zero confidence in the system.
what a fecking JOKE!!!
What happened?
The penalty roll-back was so ridiculous that we're not even mentioning how Rashford was straight up elbowed in the head with Atkinson not even thinking it was a foul. I mean, if you can't apply the simplest rule in the book, ie that elbowing someone in the head isn't allowed, then what hope is there for you in terms of any other decision?
How do you expect those guys to understand and apply something as complex as a handball rule and understand that you can't rake someone's achilles with your studs to the point that you take their shoe off?
They're all just shit and make it up as they go along. Now they're all onto the "United got a lot of pens" agenda and are trying to make up for it, because when United get decisions it's a national talking point but when United get shafted nobody bats an eyelid.
How do you expect those guys to understand and apply something as complex as a handball rule and understand that you can't rake someone's achilles with your studs to the point that you take their shoe off?
They're all just shit and make it up as they go along. Now they're all onto the "United got a lot of pens" agenda and are trying to make up for it, because when United get decisions it's a national talking point but when United get shafted nobody bats an eyelid.
Mate you're acting like you've never run in your lifeMore like swimming
For people that think the re-take was the wrong decision. This angle clearly shows otherwise...
What the hell
No t wasnt, mate. He blocked the shot with his arm. That is enough for someone like Atkinson to give a penalty
Just aim towards the opponents hands. That should be the default tactic now. Not even 2 yards out, hit straight at his hand, not going anywhere near the goal, nothing the player could do, arm not in an unnatural position but still a penalty. I’m sure the rule makers have forgotten what the rules are for. Was that genuinely an illegal effort to stop an offensive action?
That is more of a pen than Lindelöf. It is what it is, a shitshow. Wait til a GK is off his line and saves it without a retake.
Thats not the motion you make when running.Mate you're acting like you've never run in your life
What are you on about? I bet almost every single penalty taken in the last year will have the keeper in highly similar positions.For people that think the re-take was the wrong decision. This angle clearly shows otherwise...
For people that think the re-take was the wrong decision. This angle clearly shows otherwise...
It was retake, but i hope they apply it every time. That is an easy decision to see if a goalie is off his line.
I'm talking about DDG being clearly stood off his line.
What happened last year is irrelevant to me saying it's the right decision today.
Think Lindelof but 10x worse, yet not given.
In the meantime I invite you to watch Gabrielle handball with no penalty given. Not going to discuss this natural motion any further with you since we'll never agree.