Awful for the game. Celebrating a last minute goal in a cup final should be what the game is all about. To rule it out for those margins is a disaster for the game.
Refs & VAR 2020/2021 Discussion
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That one even passed the eye test. Anybody whinging is talking out of their arse. Anything other than that goal being disallowed would have been a crime.
Never understood the "takes drama out of football" argument. Today and Sterling's disallowed goal in the CL are excellent drama. 
I'm not sure why so many people are complaining about the use of VAR here? It did look marginally offside on the freeze frame and they made the decision pretty quickly.
How are they screwed over if the person is offside? Low margins, yes, but still offside.
Who was screwed over?
Until VAR correctly assessed Chilwell to be offside (which was obvious on the first replay) then Leicester would have been robbed.
That was a clear offside. Saw it right away. If that isnt then the argument says the margin of offside should be huge.
Jenas and his millimetres ffs
Jenas and his millimetres ffs
Yeah as soon as I saw the replay I thought he was just off. Unlucky for Chelsea but there have been plenty of decisions much tighter than the one today.
Offside is offside, whether by an inch or a mile. I don’t see what is so hard to understand.
No, awful for the game is when a team doesnt get what they deserve because of a referee mistake. The goal was offside so shouldnt have counted. The decision was very quick too. Good use of VAR in my opinion. Quick and fair.
The guy moans for the sake of it.
You shouldn’t need to squint at a screen or use freeze frames to determine offside.
The artificial ‘drama’is causes is nothing to the erosion of emotion it’ll cause as fans and players hesitate celebrating last minute goals
The artificial ‘drama’is causes is nothing to the erosion of emotion it’ll cause as fans and players hesitate celebrating last minute goals
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Was a clear offside, whats the problem?
The criticism of VAR based on the FA cup final is ridiculous. Would you rather an illegal goal stood? Imagine if we didn't have VAR, people would've been going on about how Leicester were fecked over in favour of the big clubs yet again etc etc.
Couldn't care less who won, but VAR is the worst thing to happen to football.
Machines are stupid and will remain stupid. Machines can never acquire intelligence or wisdom. This is a mathematical decision today, not a wise human decision to fit with a human activity like football.
Too much accuracy ain't efficiency when it comes to human phenomena, its dullness and stupidity.
Machines are stupid and will remain stupid. Machines can never acquire intelligence or wisdom. This is a mathematical decision today, not a wise human decision to fit with a human activity like football.
Too much accuracy ain't efficiency when it comes to human phenomena, its dullness and stupidity.
You didn’t need to. Get some glasses, lad.
a) You didn't need to squint to spot that one
b) I didn't see Chelsea hesitate celebrating that goal, did you?
This hesitating to celebrate is the worst counterargument to VAR. First of all, we've seen massive celebrations before VAR even makes a decision. And if the goal is allowed you can celebrate again.
And if the goal's disallowed, the other team celebrates as if they've scored a goal. See today and see Spurs v City a couple of years back.
Those sort of offsides are really annoying, but that's the rule, so you have to deal with it.
I can't imagine there's too much love for Chelsea after their Abramovich behaviour, so well done to Leicester
I can't imagine there's too much love for Chelsea after their Abramovich behaviour, so well done to Leicester
Not with VAR... The technology isn't accurate to determine that, its more like you might be offside or you might not be on the super tight ones.
However this one wasn't one of the super tight ones. Looked offside to the naked eye to me.
Yup soon as saw the freeze frame, even without the lines, offside. Not one of the ones that people should have issue with.
This is true, but I think the currently anal interpretation of offside due to VAR takes away from the spirit of the rule, which was to eliminate goal hanging. Not sure how this gets fixed though, this is how it is.
Chelsea players better be up for it in two weeks.
When are they trialling the Wenger offside law change again?
This was always the interpretation, hence the offside calls pre VAR when the attacker was clearly on. Now those calls are gone and great runs are rewarded with simply making sure offside is offside.
My problem with it is that even VAR can’t be accurate to the mm. So why are they making mm calls?
Called it offside once I saw it, VAR confirmed what many of us saw.
Yeah but wasn't the former due to the linesman fecking it up?
People mentioning how obvious it is due to the freeze frame. The balls left his foot on that frame and I guarantee it's marginally onside on the previous frame.
It's a real shame that a correct decision can only be recognized (at least by some) when it coincides with the outcome that everyone favors. If the decision, however correct, was to disallow a Leicester goal, this thread would be filled exclusively by angry grandpas hollering game's gone.
Fecking it up because they were looking for the fine lines theyre looking at today.
What strikes me is how often play is allowed to continue when its clearly off. That must mean a lot of tight calls pre VAR were hopeful guesses when they had to make a decisions.
The tv companies don't broadcast the frame rate that VAR uses. Its not possible for us to see what VAR sees.
Var isn't the Problem ,it's the Offside Rule and the Handball Rule.
Bring on Wengers Idea of Offside ,it will definitely bring more Goals and give lower Teams bigger Chance to win.
Bring on Wengers Idea of Offside ,it will definitely bring more Goals and give lower Teams bigger Chance to win.
What happened to the rule about if the ball hits a hand in the buildup to a goal it's ruled out ?
Why was it not handball for the Leicester goal? surely it's not a different phase of play, we saw a Newcastle goal disallowed the other week when it ricocheted onto the arm before scoring, I've no idea what the law is now on this
The gap is inches not cm's the previous frame is 120th of a second (if they are using 120 fps cameras) earlier, its very unlikely he was onside in the previous frame, this is not one of those ones with a cm or two with touching lines, its not in the 50 closest offside calls this season.
Well said Dom.
I’m seeing a lot of moans on this thread on the grounds that a minimal offside should not be used to make a decision so big as that. This is so wrong because if the goal stands the conceding team would have been robbed, not minimally but substantially.
VAR was brought to ensure correct decisions are made, why do we then moan when the correct decision is made. Should we rather allow an offside goal stand just to see that the spectacle of the game is preserved? I don’t think so. Chelsea were the better side and were very unlucky but it was Leicester’s day so let’s get on with it.
VAR was brought to ensure correct decisions are made, why do we then moan when the correct decision is made. Should we rather allow an offside goal stand just to see that the spectacle of the game is preserved? I don’t think so. Chelsea were the better side and were very unlucky but it was Leicester’s day so let’s get on with it.