Who the feck is Sampaoli and why is he on the poll?
RedCafe's Official Next Manager Poll
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would have been my first choice but I think he signed a new contract
Surprised how Simeone is so well behind Poch. Is it the PL factor ?
Seems we have an imposter (Karl Power) in the poll who 3 people have voted for.
... One's greatest achievement is doing the double over Man City. Whereas, the other managed to win the league whilst up against two of the strongest teams in this era.
FWIW, I voted Mourinho, however, Simeone would be absolutely brilliant, here.
I don't know simply due to the different role Simeone performs at Atletico vs what he'd be required to do here. Arguments as to whether we should or shouldn't restructure the side and hire DoF - the indications are that we won't. Has Simeone been tremendously successful in his 'you just concentrate on the first team, we'll take care of everything else' role? - Undoubtedly. But for good for for worse that isn't going to be the roll he plays here because of how differently we're structured.
Being a successful first team coach over a limited period of time isn't necessarily qualification enough to effectively manage a football club in the sense that will be demanded of whoever gets the job here.
Simeone was appointed to a set-up and has been successful working within that set-up. Here he'll be given the job and asked 'So what do you want the set up to be?'
Ex Chile manager. Won the Copa America with them last season.
Why? I'd like both, but Simeone is clearly the better manager.
Because of what I put in post #126. The job we're going to ask of the new manager isn't just to coach the first team. We're effectively asking someone to run the entire football-side of the football club. Arguments about DoF aside, it doesn't look as if we're restructuring anytime soon.Which is why I think we need someone with experience in managing a football club in the 'English' sense of the word, not necessarily someone with a job where the scope of his responsibilities in that role would be undoubtedly far narrower than what'd be presented in his inbox on his first day here.
Is it?
The only serious objection to Mourinho, it seems, is that his sides play defensive football. For some, lifting trophies would not be worth it if the price under that circumstance. United abandoned full-throated attacking football in the mid 2000s, after which time we -- under Ferguson -- adopted a more defensive, tactical approach to football and we began lifting trophies again. No one objected to our defensive football during our run of league and CL success and no one should object to it -- if it were even true as Mourinho's Real Madrid scored over 100 goals in each of his last two seasons there -- should it be the case when (if) he manages United.
We have to get off our fecking high horse and admit that United can't get by on heritage alone. Full throated attacking football match after match can only work in a league where you're vastly better than your competition, which United won't enjoy any time soon. Matches need to be won on quality attacking play early and shut down later to preserve our ability to pull together winning streaks that make a championship possible. We need to avoid situations where we're scrambling for a goal late in matches and instead have the game in hand early in the second half and go into "boring, defensive" mode to the full time whistle. That's what Mourinho gives you.
Pochettino with c.15%?!?! I mean WTF?!
Untruly bizarre and unfounded. That just as dumb as appointing Giggs.
Untruly bizarre and unfounded. That just as dumb as appointing Giggs.
If Simeone was free I'd probably go with him.
FSW with more votes than Giggs
Expect it to be Jose
Voted for Poch
Voted for Poch
Pochettards everywhere
I only voted for Jose, because he is the only one good enough for the job.
Mark Hughes 
Forget Mourinho vs Pochetinno....the race between Giggs and Benitez is more interesting (maybe the winner can be assistant manager?)
If LVG stays till season end Poch, if has to be sacked ASAP, Mou the only option
Bunch of sell outs
Nobody does crazy like Sampaoli. Apart from Bielsa
Where is Bielsa?
Jose, please!
oh now we're all over the news, another poll is ok....but when I ask I'm a nutter
Jose btw!!
Jose btw!!
Poch is the type of manager we'd ideally want Giggs (if he were given the job) to become... except he's experienced and proven here and now.
Thought it was decent at first, but I am starting to find it a little bit annoying that Poch has like 16% of the votes now whereas Simeone, Allegri, Conte are all being shunned.
There are a lot of good managers on that list, but there is only one Jose Mourinho.
We don't have 2-3 seasons to break in a manager who's never won an EPL trophy or a CL trophy.
We don't have 2-3 seasons to break in a manager who's never won an EPL trophy or a CL trophy.
1. Pochettino/Tuchel
2. Mourinho/Simeone
Mourinho is the only one that seems realistic though.
2. Mourinho/Simeone
Mourinho is the only one that seems realistic though.
Sure it is, what has Ferguson got to do with what manager I wish United for the future? I don't want attacking football because it's the "United way". I just want to be more entertained while watching the game than currently.
Noone is fecking talking about full throated attacking football, and I can't get my head around how you compare the Ferguson years of 2007-2009 with Mourinho's first season at his second Chelsea-stint, that wasn't even counter-attacking football, it was straight parking the bus. As I said, the club's goal should be to entertain the crowd, Mourinho's Chelsea team wasn't that bad he needed to approach the game that defensively, he still did, part of his mentality, you don't need the best squad to show entertaining attacking football is my opinion, Mourinho seems to disagree. And also, no, the other serious objections are his shambles of a youth record and his childish behaviour in press conferences, and I'm not talking about mind games or distractions, that's more than okay to me, I'm talking about being a fecking lunatic and firing your medical staff under the reasoning that Hazard is a diving cnut.
As I said, still voted for him. Simeone's playing style is no bit better and he's more proven than Pochettino is my reasoning, other canditates aren't interesting.
that's not the only objection at all - in fact I am not too bothered about that, for me the more important negatives are his behaviour (which often reflects badly on the club he is at) and his lack of record with youth.
Im not that surprised that Jose is the most popular choice on here, but I am surprised by how far he is ahead of any other option as I know a lot of United fans who dont want him anywhere near the club - on another forum I visit, Jose is also leading a similar poll but has only about 35/40% of the vote.
I read this blog post earlier on ESPN about the current managerial situation which I think is worth a glance as it's very balanced... definitely got me thinking.
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/barclays-pr...d-should-take-longterm-view-with-news-manager
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/barclays-pr...d-should-take-longterm-view-with-news-manager
Some silly choices in this poll! 
Mark Hughes ffs! That would be another car crash of an appointment plus he's sloppy seconds now as is Benitez ! Sampaoli and Simeone would be bad fits also. Only a clear choice from that list. Has to be Mourinho!
On a side note...why is the British representation so poor??
Mark Hughes ffs! That would be another car crash of an appointment plus he's sloppy seconds now as is Benitez ! Sampaoli and Simeone would be bad fits also. Only a clear choice from that list. Has to be Mourinho!On a side note...why is the British representation so poor??
So many uninspiring choices. Not a single stand out candidate for me. That's why I voted for Gary Neville.
Basically this. Mourinho is the better one I think but after LvG someone "fresh" and young could do us good. Not another party pooper.
Voted for Simeone due to the style which I think will be pretty apt for United and also for his man management ability.
However I don't think he'll be available or come to us at this point.
However I don't think he'll be available or come to us at this point.
I really don't know who I want as the next Utd manager,had Klopp or Pep been available Id have probably picked one of them.
With the options available Mourinho seems to be the stand out choice,proven winner etc etc. I am curious to see if he can turn things around for us and win us some trophies but he does leaves a bad vibe with me and if things don't work out with him I hope he wont drag our club through the mud and have another meltdown like he did at Chelsea.
With the options available Mourinho seems to be the stand out choice,proven winner etc etc. I am curious to see if he can turn things around for us and win us some trophies but he does leaves a bad vibe with me and if things don't work out with him I hope he wont drag our club through the mud and have another meltdown like he did at Chelsea.
Ferguson's behavior was not always exemplary. He shamefully accused a referee of being too fat, threw shoes at his own players and turned players against him before selling them.
Ferguson was a brilliant manager -- in my book the greatest manager/coach of all time in any sport with the possible exception of Wooden -- but his flaws were not unlike Mourinho's.
Our hole is deep. We must dig out of it with the best manager available. And one who actually wants to manage United.
The claim that Mourinho is a bus parking disciple of Tony Pulis is ridiculous. He wins with the squads he has available to him, whether it's a squad that scores 100 goals or a squad that keeps clean sheets.
Our players have forgotten how to win matches. That has to be fixed first, whatever it takes, before we can expect them to play champagne football again.
Even Wenger ground out wins with defensive football before the champagne began to flow with Henry et al.