Really, where are we now?

Underwhelming so far.

We got 6 points. We could had 1 or even 0. So happy with 6 if im going by our performances. :)

Højlund is an actual striker. I like that.
 
OrcaFat said:
Right now we are about three quarters of the way through a radical transition.

The amazing thing is we managed to finish third and win a cup when we were further back in our rebuild.

There is going to be an element of going backwards to go forwards while new players and a new system bed in. The injuries are killing us but, assuming all our bad luck is coming at once right now, I could see us kicking on significantly come November / December. There’ll be a few tough weeks between now and then but all that pain will be worth suffering to get us where we’re going.
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foolsgold said:
I'm fairly optimistic about the rest of the season, I'm liking the firm line that we're taking with under performers finally. I expect we'll be flying along soon enough, no less than 3rd in the league, last 16 or 8 in the champions league and maybe a domestic cup final.
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Belisarius said:
I still think we'll have a good season this year and by the end of the season the club will be much improved from where it was when ETH became manager.

- Onana is a big upgrade on DDG in my opinion.
- Yes, we have many injuries at the moment, but when everyone is healthy our back-line is basically sorted.
- Mount / Amrabat will I think both be solid, if unspectacular, additions.
- Hojlund and Garnacho give us some real development potential in the front-line.
- the fall-out from the collapse of Greenwood / Antony / Sancho is that both Amad and Facundo should get a real chance. I suspect by year-end one of them will have surprised and be contributing regularly.
- Mainoo looks a real talent and, for once, with Casemiro ahead of him, we won't have to rush his development but can take our time to bring him on at a pace that suits him.

I'm not overly concerned by all the off-field drama. The media love this stuff and over an international break it gives them something to talk about. But, most of it will be water under the bridge a month from now. The biggest concerns for me are the age of Casemiro and Erickson. Particularly Casemiro. I hope he has another year or two of quality football left in him. I'm worried it will become another Matic situation where he's good when he first arrives but can't handle the demands of a season anymore. It would be very helpful if Amrabat, Mainoo and Mount are able to significantly reduce the minutes of Casemiro and Erickson to help extend them a little bit.
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I’m with these blokes. Let’s look at positives. Garnacho deserves more time on the pitch and he’ll get it. Combination of Bruno / Mount / Pellistri / Amad / Garnacho at RW May be better than Antony anyhow. The more ETH consolidates power and gets the fans behind him, the more the Glazers will realize that don’t have the will or funds to take us to the next level. I feel like ETH is building “it’s us against the naysayers” type of mentality. I like it. Injuries are worrying, particularly along the defensive line, but Regulon is in, so we have more depth.
 
The clubs being run poorly and it's manifesting onto the pitch.. a very good season last one, the need to push on, and then the clubs embroiled in off field crap one after another. Shambolic owners and board.. all need to go.. asap
 
We’re not even down the toilet anymore, we’re right in the sewers
 
File under LVGs 2nd season, or Jose's last season, or oles last season.
 
So we are crap away from home and at home, at least one of those was good last year!!!
 
Back to square fecking 1. Season over after 5 games. :lol:

No idea where we go from here mind you
 
Looks like our typical season after managing to qualify for the CL. Slightly worse even.
 
Miles away.

You wonder if the players have chucked it.
 
Don't think we've been bad, neither vs Arsenal and Brighton.

Very disappointed, but think we've actually been unlucky with things not going our way, in crucial moments.

Our luck is horrible in terms of injuries, and Antony/Sancho.
 
A goalie who is beaten by every half decent shot on target.
No good LB or CB bar two injury prone players.
Two average RBs.
Casemiro has been rubbish since last Feb.
Mason Mount isn't a CM.
No attackers who are consistent.

We are going to be in a bigger mess by the end of the season than when Ole left.
 
So far this season is in meltdown. Greenwood gone (rightly imho), Antony quite possibly to follow, Sancho out of contention, can't shift deadwood, plagued by injuries, Casemiro looking like he's on the other side of the hill, midfield not fixed, injuries everywhere, dubious purchases (hope they come good but both Mount and Onana raise questions). Club looks rotten from top to bottom.
 
The club is in absolute limbo and yes it is because of the owners who care not a single jot about the club, there's serious distraction going on all around it and it is now obviously apparent as well as demoralising.
 
AjaxCunian said:
Don't think we've been bad, neither vs Arsenal and Brighton.

Very disappointed, but think we've actually been unlucky with things not going our way, in crucial moments.

Our luck is horrible in terms of injuries, and Antony/Sancho.
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Bad luck is a cop out. The club is managed appallingly from top to bottom and as has been the case for ten years, we get what we deserve from that
 
Well we are only five games into the season and many (myself included) already feel like the season is over for us. But I'm of the opinion it doesn't matter who our manager is because the club is so toxic and poorly run we will simply be no different, fans just need to accept we have a squad full of overpaid but average players and that we aren't going to improve unless along with new owners that there's a massive overhaul of the clubs structure.
 
The only positive I can think of is that if we keep stinking, we’ll get a better draft pick. Oh wait, that’s not a thing over there.
Uh, I’ve got nothing.
 
It's weird. Apart from the Wolves game we haven't played that bad. Especially today or vs Tottenham. However, we really haven't improved alot on field and off field we are still run really poorly.
 
Saudi need to save us. You know those cheap t-shirts you get like 5 in a pack? We need to do that with the players. Buy Casemiro get Martial and a few more free.
 
I’m at the stage where I might have to step away from watching until bigger change happens. It’s the same cycle again and again since fergie. Club as a whole is so far behind.
 
Same place as always, in the top 6 struggle, occasionally popping up in second or third, spending huge amounts of money on hype and older players and playing poor football.
 
This club is going nowhere under current ownership. We’ll continue these 2-3 year cycles of ups and downs under different managers. Highs will be CL qualification and the odd domestic cup. Lows will be placing 6th to 8th.

It’s guaranteed. This is the future unless we change approach at ownership level.
 
We are a famous club, big name, big history, nothing present, nothing future. These kinds of defeats are not even that unusual. They happen several times a season. This is our level.
 
My guess is that this will be the last year for Ten Hag. I'd thought he might be the answer, but he seems to carry too much baggage. He allows his own personal issues with players to interfere too much. He freezes some players out for little reason and overlooks problems with others. It does not make for a cohesive team. Maybe, you can get away with it at Ajax where your best players are being recruited by other leagues, so the team is constantly changing. It won't work with a team that must compete in the PL
 
A lot worse than where we were a year ago. We've been appalling since the league cup final and had an absolutely terrible summer transfer window. This was so predictable for some of us but there's a strange belief here that being positive for the sake of it is the way to go. We once again wasted so much money only to weaken our squad.

I really believe if we didn't sell or buy anyone this summer we'd have been better off. I don't think even one of our summer signings was a right signing. If we just used that money for Kane things would be much better.
 
Worse than last year and unless Amrabat comes in as a starter and plays very well, I think we will continue to be. I’m often called negative and probably a lot worse on here but I predicted a bad season before a ball was even kicked. The window wasn’t very good at all and we looked a shower of shit in pre season and have continued in that vein. A lot of teams have improved, we have certainly not… yet. Time will tell but I’m 100% certain we were not finishing in the the top 4 and winning bugger all.
 
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