Reality-Monopoly Draft

and also fits my nefarious @antohan approved plans really well, but I'm not sure how he'll be perceived quality-wise.

@Edgar Allan Pillow are we allowed to talk about potential picks in this thread or did you change your mind on that?
Edgar is going to approve all the picks anyway, so post it and let's see how it goes.

edit: a bit too late :rolleyes:
 
I admire the lobbying of Anto to influence the choices of Pat/Skizzo.

I'm kind that's all

Given the support I provided in 2 or 3 drafts, I think I've been kind with you in my career at RedCafe but I'm sorry if you are not pleased with Gaby.

Also, when I was referring to your offensive players, it was obvious I was joking.

You should have said 'Choose the player you find great for my team' and you would have had a great player in a different role.
 
I admire the lobbying of Anto to influence the choices of Pat/Skizzo.



Given the support I provided in 2 or 3 drafts, I think I've been kind with you in my career at RedCafe but I'm sorry if you are not pleased with Gaby.

Also, when I was referring to your offensive players, it was obvious I was joking.

You should have said 'Choose the player you find great for my team' and you would have had a great player in a different role.

But you don't know what I'm building.

I need quite specific skill sets in other positions so wanted to fill them myself.

I'm not really too fussed with Heinze like I said earlier he actually fits quite well into a role in my team.
 
I admire the lobbying of Anto to influence the choices of Pat/Skizzo.

Some great evil mechanics in the wrong hands, that's all. The state of Pat last night :lol:...

Anto: "These have no links, these have key men in danger so best not to give them an out, these you can do very little about"

Pat: "I want X player gone"

Anto: "You can't do anything there, X, Y or Z are linked and would be dropped first"

Pat: "Ah, boo, all my research out of the window"

Anto: "Maximum impact is X, you hit 5 while not relieving pressure off anyone"

Pat: "Not a DM. Helguera is linked to (list)"

Anto: "No, all you do there is make it easier for X. Three choices: A hits 5, B is a defender and hits 4 but less so and is easy to link to and protect a big player, C hits 3 and is a midfielder".

Pat posts Helguera.

Then apologises writing a post proving he hadn't understood anything at all from the very first post of the exchange.

You know when you are drunk and focusing on something tips you over the edge? Exactly.
 
Given the support I provided in 2 or 3 drafts, I think I've been kind with you in my career at RedCafe but I'm sorry if you are not pleased with Gaby.

Also, when I was referring to your offensive players, it was obvious I was joking.

You should have said 'Choose the player you find great for my team' and you would have had a great player in a different role.

Eh? :confused: Is this a regen username?
 
Ah so that's what he meant by support. I literally had no idea and just went with the flow :lol:

I now understand why you have taken my posts seriously :) My alias has been discussed in this thread so I thought everybody here knew the change.

Some great evil mechanics in the wrong hands, that's all. The state of Pat last night :lol:...

Anto: "These have no links, these have key men in danger so best not to give them an out, these you can do very little about"

Pat: "I want X player gone"

Anto: "You can't do anything there, X, Y or Z are linked and would be dropped first"

Pat: "Ah, boo, all my research out of the window"

Anto: "Maximum impact is X, you hit 5 while not relieving pressure off anyone"

Pat: "Not a DM. Helguera is linked to (list)"

Anto: "No, all you do there is make it easier for X. Three choices: A hits 5, B is a defender and hits 4 but less so and is easy to link to and protect a big player, C hits 3 and is a midfielder".

Pat posts Helguera.

Then apologises writing a post proving he hadn't understood anything at all from the very first post of the exchange.

You know when you are drunk and focusing on something tips you over the edge? Exactly.

:lol:

I hope we will know, one day, the identity of A-B-C-D-E-....-X-Y-Z
 
What drop? Pat doesn't have any special card to play iirc.
Christ, I overrated your evil intentions.

6 managers have no overlap with Skizzo, thus wouldn't drop a player in his box. @Pat_Mustard (like @oneniltothearsenal before him with Pat, also wasted) had the opportunity to pick a player that instantly got players from those managers compromised. I managed to hit 5 out of the 6 for maximum effect, 3 if it absolutely had to be a midfielder.

Yes, they would still have to fall in the Skizzo box, but surely it would be anxious times for

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2)

Onenil/ctp - 6. J. Zanetti(12)

mazhar13 - 6. P. Vieira (2)

prath92 - 2. T. Henry (10)

Chesterlestreet - 3.E. Cantona 5. J-P. Papin (1)

It's the sort of prime real estate that would lead them to favour picking someone that overlaps with Skizzo rather than the one they want in the next round.

Instead, he picked Helguera whose greatest virtue is to allow Enigma to drop Mendieta instead of Ferdinand (the only overlap before that silly drunken pick).
 
Instead, he picked Helguera whose greatest virtue is to allow Enigma to drop Mendieta instead of Ferdinand (the only overlap before that silly drunken pick).

Enough drops already, if it goes like this well be rolling till mid August to get to 14 players.

Otherwise I think I got your player from the description, but Helguera is the better pick for Skizzo(also can be CB/SW, etc) which I think was Pat's intention (to make his life easier than harder) :)
 
Enough drops already, if it goes like this well be rolling till mid August to get to 14 players.

Otherwise I think I got your player from the description, but Helguera is the better pick for Skizzo(also can be CB/SW, etc) which I think was Pat's intention (to make his life easier than harder) :)

That is absolutely not the point though! With great power comes great responsibility! :devil:
 
Christ, I overrated your evil intentions.

6 managers have no overlap with Skizzo, thus wouldn't drop a player in his box. @Pat_Mustard (like @oneniltothearsenal before him with Pat, also wasted) had the opportunity to pick a player that instantly got players from those managers compromised. I managed to hit 5 out of the 6 for maximum effect, 3 if it absolutely had to be a midfielder.

Yes, they would still have to fall in the Skizzo box, but surely it would be anxious times for

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2)

Onenil/ctp - 6. J. Zanetti(12)

mazhar13 - 6. P. Vieira (2)

prath92 - 2. T. Henry (10)

Chesterlestreet - 3.E. Cantona 5. J-P. Papin (1)

It's the sort of prime real estate that would lead them to favour picking someone that overlaps with Skizzo rather than the one they want in the next round.

Instead, he picked Helguera whose greatest virtue is to allow Enigma to drop Mendieta instead of Ferdinand (the only overlap before that silly drunken pick).

The impact of a strategic pick by Skizzo is limited in the sense that boxes 10 & 12 still offer top players.

Box 2 is more challenging. Cantona is unreplaceable for Chester contrary to Papin.

They can choose later a player who played with Skizzo to make sure their beloved players are protected till the end.

Conclusion: the evil boxes are not so evil.
 
I pick 2x PL winner, 2x pfa team of the year and world cup runner up William Gallas for @prath92 .

On the phone so could someone update the list please.
 
I pick 2x PL winner, 2x pfa team of the year and world cup runner up William Gallas for @prath92 .

On the phone so could someone update the list please.
Nice one.
That is absolutely not the point though! With great power comes great responsibility! :devil:
I doubt @Pat_Mustard would make such complex calculation, picking for Skizzo while being slightly hammered in the process. :lol:
 
@Chesterlestreet seems to have a few attacking players so I'll go with a DM

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Dietmar Hamann

P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26) 6. Bale (16) 7. G Heinze

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12) 6. R. Giggs (18) 7. Carvajal

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14) 6. Van Hanegem (6) 7. A. Chivadze

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8) 6. J. Zanetti (12) 7. D. Walker

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23) 6. A. Pirlo (16) 7. Viv Anderson

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan 6. R van Nistelrooy (18) 7. I. Helguera

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19) 6. P. Vieira (2) 7. S. Jardine

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids (17) 3. P.R. Falcao (25) 4. Z. Ibrahimović (3) 5. P. Shilton (8)6. L. Thuram (12)

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni (16) 6. P. Montero (4) 7. W. Gallas

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin (1) 6. T. Finney (16) 7. D. Hamann

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell 6. O. Dembele

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22) 6. R. Keane (10)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo 6. C. Gentile

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. DROPPED 4. John Charles 5. Dani Alves 6. Cannavaro

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10) 6. K. H. Rummenigge (21)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey (1) 6. A. Shevchenko (19)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, C. Puyol, V.Valdes, A. Iniesta, Valdes

@mazhar13 @Chesterlestreet
 
Hamman and Gallas are quality players well done. Also deserve a go in a draft, as well as another team mate of Helguera who always gets unpicked.
 
Hamann, eh? Not too shabby, should be able to use him in various formations, etc.

Right, @Oaencha gets Nelinho.

On phone and in a rush, so appreciate it if someone can update the list for me.
 
The impact of a strategic pick by Skizzo is limited in the sense that boxes 10 & 12 still offer top players.

Box 2 is more challenging. Cantona is unreplaceable for Chester contrary to Papin.

They can choose later a player who played with Skizzo to make sure their beloved players are protected till the end.

Conclusion: the evil boxes are not so evil.
Sure, that's why you picked Gary Bailey, huh?
 
P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26) 6. Bale (16) 7. G Heinze

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12) 6. R. Giggs (18) 7. Carvajal

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14) 6. Van Hanegem (6) 7. A. Chivadze

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8) 6. J. Zanetti (12) 7. D. Walker

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23) 6. A. Pirlo (16) 7. Viv Anderson

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan 6. R van Nistelrooy (18) 7. I. Helguera

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19) 6. P. Vieira (2) 7. S. Jardine

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids (17) 3. P.R. Falcao (25) 4. Z. Ibrahimović (3) 5. P. Shilton (8)6. L. Thuram (12)

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni (16) 6. P. Montero (4) 7. W. Gallas

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin (1) 6. T. Finney (16) 7. D. Hamann

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell 6. O. Dembele 7. Nelinho

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22) 6. R. Keane (10)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo 6. C. Gentile

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. DROPPED 4. John Charles 5. Dani Alves 6. Cannavaro

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10) 6. K. H. Rummenigge (21)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey (1) 6. A. Shevchenko (19)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, C. Puyol, V.Valdes, A. Iniesta, Valdes

@mazhar13 @Oaencha
 
My apologies, lads. I went to sleep and forgot to send my pick out beforehand.

@2mufc0 I'll give you Amedeo Carboni.
 
P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26) 6. Bale (16) 7. G Heinze

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12) 6. R. Giggs (18) 7. Carvajal

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14) 6. Van Hanegem (6) 7. A. Chivadze

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8) 6. J. Zanetti (12) 7. D. Walker

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23) 6. A. Pirlo (16) 7. Viv Anderson

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan 6. R van Nistelrooy (18) 7. I. Helguera

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19) 6. P. Vieira (2) 7. S. Jardine

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids (17) 3. P.R. Falcao (25) 4. Z. Ibrahimović (3) 5. P. Shilton (8)6. L. Thuram (12) 7. A. Carboni

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni (16) 6. P. Montero (4) 7. W. Gallas

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin (1) 6. T. Finney (16) 7. D. Hamann

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell 6. O. Dembele 7. Nelinho

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22) 6. R. Keane (10)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo 6. C. Gentile

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. DROPPED 4. John Charles 5. Dani Alves 6. Cannavaro

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10) 6. K. H. Rummenigge (21)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey (1) 6. A. Shevchenko (19)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, C. Puyol, V.Valdes, A. Iniesta, Valdes

@Oaencha
 
@Edgar Allan Pillow or you can let the managers just play it out the way they want. The original idea of this draft was fun, but it's reached a point where I honestly don't know what's going on (didn't know 2 more people had special rounds) and it's dragging forever. If it's going to be a "feck the managers I want to skrew with them" draft, then it should be made clear at the start. The shadow nonsense, special cards etc. just makes it drag on.

That's my two cents