Real Madrid need to get ready for a terrible season | It’s happening

Candidate for thread of the year. Which of these has ever been so accurate?
 
I think that he’s far off from being considered the best in the world, or even top 5, but he won it for his performances in 2018. How he plays right now has got nothing to do with that.
But even in 2018 he didn’t deserve it ...
 
The best thing about this current Madrid side is its youth. Reguilon, Valverde, Llorente, Asensio, Rodrygo, Vicinius. Mourinho is horrific with young talent - he’d be a disaster of an appointment.
 
Bunch of spoiled twats. Jose managing them again will be fun to watch.
 
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I have no idea what the feck he's saying.
He is a very famous journalist,Madrid fan.
This is from yesterday, he always gets very excited and is very good at it.
It says "the 14 in the wanda ... Europe ... Ajax get ready
 
Bunch of spoiled twats. Jose managing them again will be fun to watch.

Oh it's going to be glorious. He truly does have a boom bust cycle. He'll probably get them firing again but I can see him and Thibaut Courtois at each others throats 18 months down the line. It's like clockwork,
 
Why would they be begging for Jose after the season he just had with us?

The same reason some United fans were singing his name outside the stadium towards the end of van Gaal's tenure after Mourinho's last season at Chelsea I should imagine - the hope that this time it'll be different.
 
They are better off going for Conte than Mourinho. Chelsea players have hardly proved Conte wrong. The first season at Chelsea was impressive.
 
They are better off going for Conte than Mourinho. Chelsea players have hardly proved Conte wrong. The first season at Chelsea was impressive.

Yep, that's true. But Perez favours Mourinho and wanted him back already. Seems like this time it's going to happen.

What I can fathom is that Real fans actually want this. Well, at least some of them. Are they fecking mad?
 
Why would they be begging for Jose after the season he just had with us?

Because some of the press in Spain have kept talking about him even when Madrid won 4 UCL titles in 5 yers, it was "his legacy".

Why? Because he's a media animal, and he created drama in the Real Madrid - Barcelona rivalry, they want to get back to that, so they still sell him as the best coach in the world, and some fans buy it.
 
I hate Real Madrid as much as I hate Liverpool. Please Mourinho, I will forgive you if you manage them again, more punishment on top of this season!

Ole at the wheel while Real Madrid are scrambling around trying to figure out how it all went to pot.
 
The best thing about this current Madrid side is its youth. Reguilon, Valverde, Llorente, Asensio, Rodrygo, Vicinius. Mourinho is horrific with young talent - he’d be a disaster of an appointment.

Most of these are overrated, and the likes of Asensio has been exposed with no Ronaldo to cover for their arses.

The only way for Madrid to return is to splash the cash on some big names. They're not the club to take the long term roles and their youngsters aren't that magnificent to start with. They all crumple under pressure.
 
It’s literally the tenth fecking time you come back with that and the tenth fecking time I explain it to you. Jesus Christ man.

Barcelona funnel their offense through Messi, Madrid never did with Ronaldo. That’s the difference.

They’re both obviously worse without them, difference is one was versatile enough to make others around him play to their strengths while the other hasn’t been in the past few years.

With Messi off the pitch, Barcelona lose their entire system and look poor without it. With Ronaldo off he pitch, Madrid maintain the structure and dynamic, they just lack the extra quality he added. It’s completely different.

I’m just going to start linking to this post the next twenty times you make the same point.

Wow, judging by your wording as soon as someone points out your double standards it seems like the only thing in this world you love more than Cristiano is the word "fecking" (or "ffs" for that matter).

It's the second time I mention this, not the tenth, and I have more than enough reason to do it, because your explanation is just lazy and stupid. Both players make it easier for their teams to create goal scoring chances, Ronaldo through his incredible threat in the box and Messi through the ability to create danger as soon as he is allowed to face the opposition goal with the ball at his feet. So naturally both teams have to adapt when a player so influential on their playstyle suddenly isn't there anymore. Singling out one of them while criticizing the other is hypocrisy as it's finest. In the same way that ecerything has to run through Messi, both Benzema and Bale needed to adjust their playing styles. Benzema even commented on that just recently. In fact there probably isn't any attacker out there who adapted his game as much as Benzema in order to complement a team mate on a similar scale. However, that made absolute sense because Cristiano is as good as he is and the team profited from that - doesn't mean that they don't need time to transition, develop a new identity and distribute the responsibilities Ronaldo had on multiple shoulders. Barca more often than not just pass the ball to Messi and wait for him to create something. When he isn't there, they don't know what to do respectively create less. And Real Madrid very often just crossed the ball to Cristiano. Now that he's not there anymore, they create less because they don't know what to do either (or, in your words: lost their system). It's the very same situation and you conclude completely different things out of it based on your sympathy for the one player. If anything, you could argue that Messi has adapted to his attacking partners much more than Cristiano did. I provided a tactical video analysis on that the last time I spoke of that (and the authors put it much better than I possibly could) but you conveniently ignored it.
 
Don't you think his time at United was more catastrohic? He didn't come close to winning the league and there are a lot of people saying football has left him behind.

Yeah but he did win you 2 trophies and in fairness had a very impressive points tally 2nd season, very difficult situation when the league winners are getting 100 points.

His end at Chelsea was pretty catastrophic. They were bottom half of the league and had lost 9 out of 16 (!!) premier league games when he got the sack.
 
The only way for Madrid to return is to splash the cash on some big names. They're not the club to take the long term roles and their youngsters aren't that magnificent to start with. They all crumple under pressure.
That's not true, some of them if not all have quality, but they are underperforming because they are collectively awfull, and I thought it wasn't possible but they look even worse under Solari than with Lopetegui.

You should know better, just look at the difference between United under Mourinho and OGS. Where we do agree is that they need 2 or 3 top signings for their first 11, it can't be these youngsters leading the team. And a top coach to do that.
Wow, judging by your wording as soon as someone points out your double standards it seems like the only thing in this world you love more than Cristiano is the word "fecking" (or "ffs" for that matter).
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He is a very famous journalist,Madrid fan.
This is from yesterday, he always gets very excited and is very good at it.
It says "the 14 in the wanda ... Europe ... Ajax get ready
Thanks dude!
 
Wow, judging by your wording as soon as someone points out your double standards it seems like the only thing in this world you love more than Cristiano is the word "fecking" (or "ffs" for that matter).

It's the second time I mention this, not the tenth, and I have more than enough reason to do it, because your explanation is just lazy and stupid. Both players make it easier for their teams to create goal scoring chances, Ronaldo through his incredible threat in the box and Messi through the ability to create danger as soon as he is allowed to face the opposition goal with the ball at his feet. So naturally both teams have to adapt when a player so influential on their playstyle suddenly isn't there anymore. Singling out one of them while criticizing the other is hypocrisy as it's finest. In the same way that ecerything has to run through Messi, both Benzema and Bale needed to adjust their playing styles. Benzema even commented on that just recently. In fact there probably isn't any attacker out there who adapted his game as much as Benzema in order to complement a team mate on a similar scale. However, that made absolute sense because Cristiano is as good as he is and the team profited from that - doesn't mean that they don't need time to transition, develop a new identity and distribute the responsibilities Ronaldo had on multiple shoulders. Barca more often than not just pass the ball to Messi and wait for him to create something. When he isn't there, they don't know what to do respectively create less. And Real Madrid very often just crossed the ball to Cristiano. Now that he's not there anymore, they create less because they don't know what to do either (or, in your words: lost their system). It's the very same situation and you conclude completely different things out of it based on your sympathy for the one player. If anything, you could argue that Messi has adapted to his attacking partners much more than Cristiano did. I provided a tactical video analysis on that the last time I spoke of that (and the authors put it much better than I possibly could) but you conveniently ignored it.

Sorry, I don’t like repeating myself over and over again... I’ve made that exact comment at least six or seven different times and you keep ignoring it.

It’s complete bullshit that Messi has adapted to his attacking partners more than Ronaldo has. Just pure and complete lack of knowledge about the game to argue that.

Zidane’s Madrid didn’t have a system, they were probably the most multidimensional attacking team ever. Crossing was a part of it, not their strategy. Barcelona have one system, one way of playing. Madrid without Ronaldo lose goals, character and quality, Barcelona without Messi lose their system and ideology. It’s not the same at all. It’s the complete opposite.

Madrid played to get the best out of everyone else (midfield in particular) with Ronaldo adapting to it, Barcelona in the past seasons have played to get the best out of Messi with everyone else adapting to it. Which can work only if the team around him is capable of it and in the past couple of seasons both with Argentina and Barcelona it clearly hasn’t. Regardless of how good you think they were, it’s a fact that they haven’t got the best out of their squads.

This is the last time I’m making this exact same comment, you can misquote it and call me an hypocrit how many more times you want. I’ll just start linking back to it because I’m tired of writing the same thing for two years now.

Also, you should be ashamed to even comment here on a day like today after what you’ve been arguing for years.
 
That's not true, some of them if not all have quality, but they are underperforming because they are collectively awfull, and I thought it wasn't possible but they look even worse under Solari than with Lopetegui.

You should know better, just look at the difference between United under Mourinho and OGS. Where we do agree is that they need 2 or 3 top signings for their first 11, it can't be these youngsters leading the team. And a top coach to do that.
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Overrated doesn't mean they are bad. But they are just not as good as the initial post is claiming imo and Madrid will go nowhere if they didn't splash the cash on some ready made players. Madrid aren't a club for long term building anyway.

Also I maintain my opinion that many of their players appeared to be covered by Ronaldo and are getting exposed now. Many said he was hindering teamplay of the team and some players will play collectively better now without him as the main focus and will share the goals, but the reality is without Ronaldo covering for these players arses with his goals, and their crap goal scoring record is getting exposed now.
 
People that talk about building for the future around their young core have no clue what Real Madrid is. The goal is to win every season, not 5 years from now.

If they get Pochettino and he’s giving these youngsters game time and improving them he still won’t see a second season if they end up winning feck all.

2 years in a row without winning anything and a third year in a row with a poor league campaign would be a disaster. They need some galácticos and as close to a guarantee as possible that they can get back to having 90+ point league campaigns.
 
Keep Solari till end of the season, what's the point of changing managers now?

But then again its Real Madrid, wouldn't surprise me if they did.
 
Keep Solari till end of the season, what's the point of changing managers now?

But then again its Real Madrid, wouldn't surprise me if they did.

They’ll probably keep him until the end of the season unless they continue with this awful form and Getafe gets close.