Real Madrid need to get ready for a terrible season | It’s happening

The title of this thread already must be one of the most accurate of this site's history...
Heh. Remember the half season under benitez? Remember how the season ended :D

We have the same points we had at this stage last season

We probably will end up having the worst season in 6 years, but still. Bit early. And barcelona aren't running away with the league so far either
 
'Benzema will play with shackles off now he doesn't have to do the donkey work for Ronaldo' :lol:

'Modric deserves to win the next Ballon d'Or, he is heartbeart of the side and more important than Ronaldo'
:lol:

6 hours without scoring now.. Could do with the old bastard right now.
 
Just saw the result. Whats going on? Just bad luck , out of form or are there deeper problems?
 
Just saw the result. Whats going on? Just bad luck , out of form or are there deeper problems?

Out of form, Squad not good enough to compete for title, everyone's miserable and they all hate each other, no one seems to care enough to rise above it and play for the shirt, poor tactical choices.

Everyone is to blame.
 
I’ll love watching which job he unbelievably gets next.

Punditry

Just saw the result. Whats going on? Just bad luck , out of form or are there deeper problems?

a mix of not having goalscorers or players who can dribble (other than Isco who's injured), lackluster physical preparation and not having a good tactical plan other than safe passes between the defence and the midfield. Also you can tell the players aren't motivated at all
 
Ronaldo is a very clever guy, knew exactly what was about to happen, so went to a club who will win a trophy without doubt.
What a shocking result today though.
 
Heh. Remember the half season under benitez? Remember how the season ended :D

We have the same points we had at this stage last season

We probably will end up having the worst season in 6 years, but still. Bit early. And barcelona aren't running away with the league so far either

In 2012-13 you ended the league in second on 85 points, got to the cup final and the CL semis. Don’t think it’s guaranteed that it will be better than that.
 
Mourinho could last longer than Lopetegui. Who would have said it.
Now he has the luck of the international break, and on the way back a quiet week, with Levante and Victoria Plzen at home.
I would say that the game that will decide his future is the clásico in Barcelona.
 
Fair play for being the one to call this @shamans :D I genuinely thought it was gonna be business as usual for Madrid, after the initial teething period without Ronaldo.

Still, we all saw how things went in the Benitez season. Still time for them to turn it around but feel like Lopetegui may not be the guy to do it.
 
You were right about this manager all along :lol:
And I was the one here from Portugal who made less critics to him compared to @Peyroteo and @André Dominguez .

Still warned the veteran foreign players wouldn't buy his rotaciones.

But Florentino also has himself to blame, and it has nothing to do with Cristiano, its just the spin who was coming that him leaving would make the team play better by Copperfield piece of magic just because Isco, Bale, Asensio or Benzema would be free to express themselves.
 
Why was Lopetegui appointed again?

I can't remember hearing about him doing anything great at club level. I also don't remember his Spain side being THAT great.
 
its just the spin who was coming that him leaving would make the team play better by Copperfield piece of magic just because Isco, Bale, Asensio or Benzema would be free to express themselves.
In fairness, we don't even know yet. Isco and Bale are injured :lol:
 
Why was Lopetegui appointed again?

I can't remember hearing about him doing anything great at club level. I also don't remember his Spain side being THAT great.

I can’t think of any other reason than that Zidane’s resignation really took them by surprise.
 
Out of form, Squad not good enough to compete for title, everyone's miserable and they all hate each other, no one seems to care enough to rise above it and play for the shirt, poor tactical choices.

Everyone is to blame.
Sounds like us...
 
Why was Lopetegui appointed again?

I can't remember hearing about him doing anything great at club level. I also don't remember his Spain side being THAT great.
According to the press Löw, Pochettino, Allegri, Klopp and Naggelsmann said no
I can’t think of any other reason than that Zidane’s resignation really took them by surprise.

I also thought that, but a few weeks ago it was written that he had thought about giving up when they lost in la copa del rey.
A few days ago it was said that he was tired of listening to Cristiano with his "subject". It was also said that there had been a big argument with Florentino or that 9 players in the dressing room did not speak to him. However, it is also said that he had spoken with Mané and other players for this season.

At the Thebest gala Florentino met Zidane and the president was very affectionate, so I really do not know what could happen.
 
Why was Lopetegui appointed again?

I can't remember hearing about him doing anything great at club level. I also don't remember his Spain side being THAT great.

Well, they were unbeaten during his time with them. They destroyed France last year in Paris, never seen Kante look so bad.

It's a shame for Spain that he risked away the opportunity to be world champion for such a difficult job and ends up losing both in a few months.

Isco already was, did Bale left the game today injured again?

Yep, Bale asked to be subbed off. He really can't be relied on to be honest.
 
Ronaldo is a very clever guy, knew exactly what was about to happen, so went to a club who will win a trophy without doubt.
What a shocking result today though.
But, but, but .... everyone said the team were fine without Ronaldo and they'd kick on/win regardless?

It's almost like he DID actually contribute at Madrid. Who knew?
 
Getting drunk musings: i'd like to know who the feck whispers in flo's ear and ask hjm why the feck is he doing with the damn defence. I like odriozola and i think he could become some player but dani is 26, what the feck do we need a green 20 year old for? And who the feck decided to roll with reguilon in the summer? Because it sure looks like it wasn't lopetegui
 
Getting drunk musings: i'd like to know who the feck whispers in flo's ear and ask hjm why the feck is he doing with the damn defence. I like odriozola and i think he could become some player but dani is 26, what the feck do we need a green 20 year old for? And who the feck decided to roll with reguilon in the summer? Because it sure looks like it wasn't lopetegui
Carvajal has many injuries, now he will be two months out. I think he thought that Marcelo wouldn´t lose his place and didn´t want to spend in another Theo.
Reflect on our next coach
 
Anyone surprised doesn't really know Lopetegui.
 
Lopetegui is like if he got caught cheating by his wife, was kicked out of the house 1 week before marriage, and the hot chick he was cheating with already dumped him in the 2nd month of relationship
 
According to the press Löw, Pochettino, Allegri, Klopp and Naggelsmann said no

All of them said no to Real Madrid?

Coaching Real is as much of a gimme as a coach can get because any failure there can be attributed to "Its Madrid". Feel free to point to Rafa but he had two noticeable failures prior to his Real stint, the end of his Liverpool run and his time at Inter. He was good at Napoli but by the time he got to Madrid his reputation wasn't what it was once so it wasn't surprising that he ended up at Newcastle after being sacked over there.

But otherwise failing at Madrid would not have hurt any of the names mentioned above. They would also have a 1 in 3 chance of winning a league title.

Only reason I can think of is that they didn't like the project that Florentino presented to them or they are all just waiting for Zidane's immediate replacement to fail so that they can come in and pick up the pieces.

Why go right in and run the risk of failure when you can clean up the first guy's mess instead?

Well, they were unbeaten during his time with them. They destroyed France last year in Paris, never seen Kante look so bad.

It's a shame for Spain that he risked away the opportunity to be world champion for such a difficult job and ends up losing both in a few months.

I'm not sure going unbeaten in qualifiers and friendlies is a great indicator of quality, but I never really watched Spain during his time so I can't really say. I've heard the sentiment that if he stayed Spain could have won the entire thing and well, fair enough. I just never heard his name mentioned amongst the list of great coaches or even great up and coming coaches. He is also older than I thought because I swore he would have been in his early 40s at best.
 
Lopetegui is like if he got caught cheating by his wife, was kicked out of the house 1 week before marriage, and the hot chick he was cheating with already dumped him in the 2nd month of relationship
:lol: but he also knew that the hot chick wasn´t exactly a nun

All of them said no to Real Madrid?

Coaching Real is as much of a gimme as a coach can get because any failure there can be attributed to "Its Madrid". Feel free to point to Rafa but he had two noticeable failures prior to his Real stint, the end of his Liverpool run and his time at Inter. He was good at Napoli but by the time he got to Madrid his reputation wasn't what it was once so it wasn't surprising that he ended up at Newcastle after being sacked over there.

But otherwise failing at Madrid would not have hurt any of the names mentioned above. They would also have a 1 in 3 chance of winning a league title.

Only reason I can think of is that they didn't like the project that Florentino presented to them or they are all just waiting for Zidane's immediate replacement to fail so that they can come in and pick up the pieces.

Why go right in and run the risk of failure when you can clean up the first guy's mess instead?



I'm not sure going unbeaten in qualifiers and friendlies is a great indicator of quality, but I never really watched Spain during his time so I can't really say. I've heard the sentiment that if he stayed Spain could have won the entire thing and well, fair enough. I just never heard his name mentioned amongst the list of great coaches or even great up and coming coaches. He is also older than I thought because I swore he would have been in his early 40s at best.

The theory of waiting for someone else to be fired seems quite realistic. Apparently Klopp said no directly, perhaps because he saw the mud he was going to get into or because he is very involved in the Liverpool project. I think Pochettino would have come if Zidane had left a few weeks before his new contract. Allegri said a few weeks ago that he had to say no to Madrid, "everyone's dream", but I'm not sure if he explained the reasons.
 
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Main problem with Madrid is they don't have goal scorer. Last season at the same period when Ronaldo was shite/absent they struggled for goals as well. Simply the whole team under Zidane, Carlo and probably any previous Madrid manager was build to supply Ronaldo with chances to score and let him score. With him out you have the likes of Bale, Benzema, Isco, Asensio ..etc. All good players but how many each will score ? I doubt anyone will exceed 20 goals this season, maybe won't even exceed 15.

Madrid need someone to bury balls in the nets. Can't see anyone else except Icardi, but I hope we move for him first by swapping Lukaku before Madrid inevitably do it.
 
There are three things I would note here.

Firstly, their first XI is probably still strong. But against Alaves, Bale went off injured, Isco wasn't in the 18, ditto Marcelo, ditto Carvajal, Asensio was on the bench...no wonder they are struggling.

Secondly, it's going to be psychologically damaging to any squad to sell your main player, and then replace him with absolutely no-one. Yes, they signed players, but the big players at the club, especially a club like Real where they clearly have so much power, are going to be pretty disillusioned to see Ronaldo leave, and no major player come in. I assumed when they sold him so early (and perhaps they assumed this too) that they would sign someone like Hazard or Neymar. It seems a thoroughly bizarre decision to sell Ronaldo, and for your major signing in the same window to be an 18 year-old from Brazil who has barely played senior football, and never played in Europe.

Thirdly, they weren't a particularly good side last season. The CL win papered over the quite considerable cracks. They were rubbish in the league, and completely out of contention by Christmas. They didn't actually play that well in the CL, and were quite lucky to win it. Of course, it was still a great achievement, but they were nowhere near being the best team in Europe last season in reality, and winning the CL has disguised the fact that the entire team needed rebuilding. Instead, they've sold probably their best player, let Kovacic go out on loan, and bought no-one of note, certainly no attacking player that is ready to start regularly.
 
All of them said no to Real Madrid?

My best guess is that nobody wanted to follow into Zidane's footsteps... how do you equal 3 CLs in a row?

At this point Lopetegui is looking like our Moyes, a mediocre coach that was the only option because everybody else was too afraid stepping in after a legend
 
This guy first fecks up Spain and now Real Madrid.

They'll give this man a statue in Catalonia at this rate.
 
The current Real players seem to only respond when playing for club legends so just do what Spain did and replace him with Hierro.
 
All of them said no to Real Madrid?
Why do you consider that something surprising? Madrid have the tendency to sack their coaches very quickly if they fail to deliver expectations. And those expectations are winning the CL or at least the league. Also, all of these coaches named have cushy jobs and are adored by the fans. Why would they abandon them in order for them to get sacked in Madrid? Even if their stock wouldn't fall all that much (but it would, no matter what getting sacked is always a bad thing) they won't go back to their previous clubs and they'll be forced to look for new ones and start again.

The problem with clubs like Madrid and Chelsea is that eventually there comes a time in which their itchy trigger finger backfires and very few coaches are left who are willing to take the job. I'm actually quite surprised that Sarri left Napoli for Chelsea.
 
Why do you consider that something surprising? Madrid have the tendency to sack their coaches very quickly if they fail to deliver expectations. And those expectations are winning the CL or at least the league. Also, all of these coaches named have cushy jobs and are adored by the fans. Why would they abandon them in order for them to get sacked in Madrid? Even if their stock wouldn't fall all that much (but it would, no matter what getting sacked is always a bad thing) they won't go back to their previous clubs and they'll be forced to look for new ones and start again.

The problem with clubs like Madrid and Chelsea is that eventually there comes a time in which their itchy trigger finger backfires and very few coaches are left who are willing to take the job. I'm actually quite surprised that Sarri left Napoli for Chelsea.

Dont speak too soon. We are heading that direction if not already there.