RAWK Goes Into Meltdown 2016-17 Edition

But yeah. A 0-0 in the derby is now a good result for Man Utd. A 0-0 in their other derby is a good result for them too. They are the smallest of themselves, City and Liverpool - and will remain so for quite some time, I think.
 

The thing is, a shutout at Anfield has pretty much always been regarded as a good result for us, even when they've been shite. I definitely remember that under Fergie while the talk was typically straightforward - we always demand a win in every game - the vibe was that beating them at home and drawing away was a satisfactory outcome.

No matter how good or bad they are, they've always raised their game against us, and obviously it's a difficult place to visit with a hostile atmosphere. Being content with a draw at Anfield is exactly the sort of Fergie-ish pragmatism which made him a specialist league-winner. Whereas Liverpool always considered beating us, home or away, a key ambition, hence why they would often do so despite being the worse team, and then drop points against relegation contenders the week after.
 
Because I tell you where there is a consensus. At Anfield and at Melwood. Amongst the players, the manager, the staff and amongst the fans. For the first time since perhaps even Rafa everyone is together. And as Klopp says himself that is so important. Bring on the next league games.

Excluding the period once every single year when they've said the same thing, and ended the season just as disappointingly as ever.
 
They seem a bit worried...:lol:
Which is kind of crazy as the trumpanzees are the mirror image of Liverpool fans. It's all rigged against them, the people's choice to win and absolute denial in biting, racism ( groping). You could put a red "make Liverpool great again" hat on the heads of the people in the gif we love so much (Olly?) and you would not tell the difference between that and a trump rally.
 
This idea that were now finished because we played a more negative game is rather amusing. I suppose, for example, when we were grinding out 1-0/1-1 away in the Champions League in 2008 we were finished then too?
 
Winning without winning the manc way

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Multiple Made-up Manc Mates:
RAWK said:
I've been out and about today working. Three Manc fans I know are over the moon with the way they played. One was even punching the air !
 
an amazing number really, every one of whom seem to dislike our manager a lot, and call him ''Shitcoat'' all of the time

you couldn't make it up,

anyway, we beat 'em 0-0 so feck 'em, :)
 
From the Mou-thread:

He is not so charming anymore anymore is he ?

Miserable boring shithouse.

Herrera MOTM too - seriously?

I always thought he was a humourless classless dick
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He hasn't changed a bit. just more acceptable to dislike him now the media has given everyone permission.

He's just a fecking prick.

People try and label him as this and that, and endow him with qualities and abilities, but the bottom line is that he is quite simply a gigantic prick of a man.

The tactical mastermind bullshit peddled by the likes of Savage and Keown is so tedious.

A good football manager identifies the weakness of their opponents and exploits them. We have a very shaky goalkeeper and an average defence that has one of the worst records in the league for defending set pieces, He could have picked a team that gave us a genuine headache on the break but instead he picks a slow one dimensional side who did not get a corner for 80 minutes.

Winning football matches is about getting your team consistently in positions to create chances. I'm convinced if that game was played ten times with the same tactics, the split would be something like 4 Liverpool wins, 5 would be a draw and they would probably nick a goal without response 1 in ten.

It's pathetic and shit when you look at the squad he has. If it does continue they have simply got Van Gaal 2.0 but with slightly better players. Will be interesting to see how long their fans are willing to put up with dross like that.

its the same at every team he manages. he is blessed with the resources to buy a certain type of player to fit his anti football system. He resents players who want to express themselves and prefers the ones that do whatever he wants. United fans should be worried for the likes of rashford imo. he will ruin him. Spend most of the game last night defending.

There is no genius with what this arrogant slimy prick does. he epitomises anti football and is one of the worst sportsmen in history. You hear morons saying stuff like win at all costs and no one cares as long as you win. Id rather never win a thing than have this cancer involved with my club. no one will remember his anti football in years to come.

Mind you, he did once seem to have a bit of a spark in him. These days he just comes over as a dour, miserable, whinging, spiteful gobshite. Listening to both him and Klopp since last night's game I'm even more grateful we have Klopp and Salford have him. He suits that classless club down to the ground.

I've just realised that Mourinho is the football equivalent of Donald Drumpf. A crazy, conspiracy theorising, siege-mentality inducing, negative spin doctor that is blessed with a media that sticks on his every word and a fan base that laps that shite up.

Some awareness will creep in as the season progresses but it wont really be until right at the end, when United a locked into a trophy-less battle for top six, that people will realise all the jizzing and hyperbole spewed about Mourhino's United bears no relation to the reality of their performances, and ultimately their results.

Agreed he used to be like Diego Simeone but now he's turned into Tony Pulis, the big difference between him and Pulis is that one is a c*nt and the other one isn't.

That is literally just the one page of their 78-page thread.
 
A good football manager identifies the weakness of their opponents and exploits them. We have a very shaky goalkeeper and an average defence that has one of the worst records in the league for defending set pieces, He could have picked a team that gave us a genuine headache on the break but instead he picks a slow one dimensional side who did not get a corner for 80 minutes.

Like LIverpool did to us? Oh wait...

It's pathetic and shit when you look at the squad he has. If it does continue they have simply got Van Gaal 2.0 but with slightly better players. Will be interesting to see how long their fans are willing to put up with dross like that.

Might have a point there :nervous:
 
You hear morons saying stuff like win at all costs and no one cares as long as you win. Id rather never win a thing than have this cancer involved with my club.

Gotta give them credit for actually practicing what they preached for the last 2 decades.
 
Multiple Made-up Manc Mates:

RAWK said:
I've been out and about today working. Three Manc fans I know are over the moon with the way they played. One was even punching the air !

If it's form you're talking about you lot were dead lucky Couts, Firmy and Mane couldn't pass the ball for shit in the first half. See this is an easy game.

You lot needed the points. Notice the plural. I was punching the air when the ref blew the full time whistle that you gained no ground on us whereas we lost none to the league leaders.

Good luck against Chelsea. Hazards got a point to prove I believe.

Really makes you wonder...
 
From the Mou-thread:





















That is literally just the one page of their 78-page thread.
:lol:

He really does get under their skin.
What I found funny was the guy who said over 10 games if the game was played out like that Liverpool would win 5 and draw 4, completely ignoring the fact Mourinho has gone there with those tactics and won on Numerous occasions .
 
Did I miss something, but didn't the mighty attacking machine, aka Liverpool FC, take off a striker and bring on a midfielder as they continued their assault (cough) on the United goal. They were clueless and caused very little threat in the whole game. They were just as happy to get a draw, and did not want to leave a gap to be exploited. Seems they are butt hurt that they didn't smash us, when for the first 45 mins they spent most of their time finding it difficult to get out of their half, and in the second half they ran out of ideas, stating a run of the mill DDG save from a long range shot (;)) as evidence they deserved to win, really.
 
Really makes you wonder...

:lol::lol: That's pretty damning evidence. I can assure you its not me as I don't use RAWK and have no interest. I was punching the air out of relief though, that much is true.
 
Did I miss something, but didn't the mighty attacking machine, aka Liverpool FC, take off a striker and bring on a midfielder as they continued their assault (cough) on the United goal. They were clueless and caused very little threat in the whole game. They were just as happy to get a draw, and did not want to leave a gap to be exploited. Seems they are butt hurt that they didn't smash us, when for the first 45 mins they spent most of their time finding it difficult to get out of their half, and in the second half they ran out of ideas, stating a run of the mill DDG save from a long range shot (;)) as evidence they deserved to win, really.
You're mistaking Lallana coming on as a defensive move from Klopp. Sturridge had an awful game on Monday and we're a better side with Firmino up top. We were actually threatening to create something as soon as Lallana came on.
 
You're mistaking Lallana coming on as a defensive move from Klopp. Sturridge had an awful game on Monday and we're a better side with Firmino up top. We were actually threatening to create something as soon as Lallana came on.
I am not saying he brought on a defensive midfielder at all. But an attack minded manager would have taken off a defender to bring on another attacker, hoping that someone like Sturridge would get more room. I don't know who that would be, but that would have been more positive. We have seen this by many managers who either needed to win or felt they could break through.
 
I am not saying he brought on a defensive midfielder at all. But an attack minded manager would have taken off a defender to bring on another attacker, hoping that someone like Sturridge would get more room. I don't know who that would be, but that would have been more positive. We have seen this by many managers who either needed to win or felt they could break through.
I think it was more to do with trying to get us back to as close to our preferred formation as possible. Sturridge hasn't looked right all season and the general consensus is that he doesn't suit Klopp's style of play. Some of our best football has come with Firmino in the false 9 and Coutinho/Mane either side of him. Out of the options available Origi hasn't really provided much this season, and the other option was Grujic who is very inexperienced so Lallana was the best option.

Sturridge wasn't getting anything against Smalling and Bailly anyway. We actually looked like we could build up some pressure when Sturridge went off for Lallana.
 
I think it was more to do with trying to get us back to as close to our preferred formation as possible. Sturridge hasn't looked right all season and the general consensus is that he doesn't suit Klopp's style of play. Some of our best football has come with Firmino in the false 9 and Coutinho/Mane either side of him. Out of the options available Origi hasn't really provided much this season, and the other option was Grujic who is very inexperienced so Lallana was the best option.

Sturridge wasn't getting anything against Smalling and Bailly anyway. We actually looked like we could build up some pressure when Sturridge went off for Lallana.

Can't you take your discussion to the Liverpool thread.
 
Sorry, the post I was responding to was in here.
Two wrongs don't make a right. This comment isn't particularly aimed at you, this entire thread is an absolute mess. It needs to be moderated a lot better, or just closed on the grounds it's simply a Liverpool mega-thread.
 
Two wrongs don't make a right. This comment isn't particularly aimed at you, this entire thread is an absolute mess. It needs to be moderated a lot better, or just closed on the grounds it's simply a Liverpool mega-thread.
It's still sort of RAWK related. There's probably a consensus on there that Mourinho parked the bus which I believe @SalfordRed1960 was addressing. I agree that RAWK are being daft if they think United parked the bus, but it'd be right of them to not consider the Lallana substitution as a defensive move from Klopp.

Is RAWK really that crazy, or is it just that now and again some things happen that create some crazy posting all at once? I read some of the match preview threads over there and there's a fair bit of sensible posting that goes on from what I've seen. Maybe I'm just not reading the right threads?