RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

I don't think any Liverpool fan should wish for a return to the old format.

It would mean Liverpool would not have seen top level European competition for over 20 years, and Man United would be sitting on about 10 European Cups i.e. their worst nightmare.

The Champions League has kept things respectable for them, by allowing them to enter from time to time as 3rd/4th placed finishers, and making it difficult for us to rack up easy wins, as they used to.
 
Not sure about the racking up easy wins. Only 4 CL winners have not been reigning champions in their leagues: AC Milan (x2), Real Madrid and errrrm Liverpool.

Those three also won the CL in the only finals not to feature a reigning Champion: Milan against Liverpool, Liverpool against Milan and Real against Valencia.

So your point definitely stands on the fact that, if anything, they are among the main beneficiaries of the current "Champions" format as they refer to it.
 
Not sure about the racking up easy wins. Only 4 CL winners have not been reigning champions in their leagues: AC Milan (x2), Real Madrid and errrrm Liverpool.

Those three also won the CL in the only finals not to feature a reigning Champion: Milan against Liverpool, Liverpool against Milan and Real against Valencia.

So your point definitely stands on the fact that, if anything, they are among the main beneficiaries of the current "Champions" format as they refer to it.

My main point is that we'd have qualified 12 times as champions, and rather than facing tough ties against the 2nd/3rd/4th best sides in Spain, England, Italy, Germany etc. we'd be playing the champs of Romania and Luxembourg instead.

For example, in 2009, we lost the final to Barcelona. They wouldn't have even been in it under the old format having finished 2nd in 2008. Instead being replaced by the champions of Northern Ireland or something.

Half the amount of fixtures as well. We wouldn't have 10, but I'd expect us to have quite a few more.
 
So basically the ucl is crap. I guess we won't be hearing the 'five times' jab at all this season then. Since it is such a shitty competition anyway.
 
Do you know what's the funniest in that thread on Champions League?

Someone said we had an easy way to three finals in last four seasons... and someone replied saying Liverpool had a lot of luck winning Champions League in 2005... and then...

RideTheWalrus said:
SON “Dad, my mates in school told me that Liverpool won the European Cup for the 5th time in 2005 - are they right dad?”
DAD “Yes son, it’s true, but they were dead lucky son, all the way through the tournament”
SON “Why dad?”
DAD “Well in the group stages …”
SON “What dad, did they have a team from Azerbaijan, Israel, and Ireland in their group?”
DAD “Well no, they had Monaco, Deportivo la Coruna, and Olympiakos”
SON “Well they still sound like 3 easy teams to me dad”
DAD “Actually Monaco reached the final the year before, Olympiakos had won their league 7 times out of the previous 8 seasons, and Deportivo finished above the galacticos of Real Madrid in their league”.
SON “Jeez dad, that sounds like quite a difficult group then”.
DAD “yeh I suppose your right son, but they were still lucky - it took a miss-hit shot by Gerrard against Olympiakos to get through”.
SON “oh is that the goal were your hero Martin Tyler's Former Monkey goes berserk shouting “you beauty, you beauty, what a hit son, what a hit!!!!”
DAD “yes son it is”
SON “oh ok. Well what happened in the last 16 dad, who did they draw?”
DAD “Bayer Leverkusen”
SON “Bayer who?”
DAD “Exactly son, but they had beaten Real Madrid 3-0 at home, and won their group that included Dinamo Kiev and Roma too.”
SON “****** hell dad, they sound good”.
DAD “Yes, I suppose you’re right son”
SON “So did they win on away goals or something”
DAD “errrrr, no, they won both legs 3-1 each”
SON “Oh - well, who next then dad”

DAD “Juventus”
SON “How the **** did they get past them Dad?”
DAD “Well they did - they won 2-1 at home, and cruised to a 0-0 away draw without Juve having hardly any chances”.
SON “Were Juve crap at that time - had all their decent players gone or something?”
DAD “Well actually they still had players like Del Piero, Nedved, Ibrahimovic, Thuram, and Buffon in the side. And they won Serie A a few weeks later.”
SON “wow, they beat the Italian champions elect - which easy team did they get in the semi then?”
DAD “Chelsea”
SON “Chelsea - for ***** sake - what an easy draw - they’ve won nothing, Everton have won more than them”.
DAD “Well that season they won the Premiership and League Cup but the Red ***** didn’t let them score in 186 minutes of football”
SON “Jesus Christ - so Liverpool beat the English Champions elect too”
DAD “Yes son, they ****** well did”.
SON “So after all that I suppose all the good teams had been knocked out”
DAD “Not quite son, AC Milan awaited them in the final”
SON “No way - aren’t they the 2nd most successful team in the competition’s history”.
DAD “Yes son they are”
SON “So were Liverpool lucky because Milan had all their good players out with injuries”
DAD “No - they had Shevchenko, Crespo, Maldini, Nesta, Cafu, Kaka, Stam, Dida, Gattuso, Pirlo, and Seedorf”.
SON “Your ‘avin a laff”
DAD “It gets worse son, Milan were cruising, 3-0 up at half-time”.
SON “What happened, did they have 3 men sent off in the second half - how did Liverpool get back into the game?”
DAD “No, Milan had no men sent off, the Red ***** scored 3 goals in 6 minutes”
SON “Against the best defence in Europe”
DAD “Yes!!!, against the best defence in Europe”
SON “So what happened next - extra time?”
DAD “Yes son, and Dudek made the luckiest save ever to stop a Shevchenko shot from a yard”
SON “Why was it lucky dad - did it hit him on the ****, nose, shoulder or something”
DAD “No son, his hand”
SON “Well aren’t goalies meant to save shots with their hands”
DAD “Yeah, but that’s besides the point”
SON “Then what”
DAD “Penalties!”
SON “English teams are crap at penalties”

DAD “Not this time they weren’t - they only missed one. And that’s how Liverpool became the luckiest team to win the European Cup”.
SON “But I bet when they brought the cup home there was hardly anyone to watch as all Liverpool fans live anywhere but Liverpool you say. How many was there, 5,000 or so?”
DAD “1 million people lined the streets”.
SON “So let’s get this straight dad - Liverpool had 3 good teams in their group, they then knocked out a team who had beaten Real Madrid 3-0, they then knocked out the future Serie A champions, then knocked out the future Premiership champions, before coming back from 3-0 down to beat the 2nd most successful club in Europe. And then the whole population of Liverpool came out to welcome them home!!!!”
DAD “That about sums it up son”
SON “Dad?”
DAD “Yes son”
SON “Can I have a Liverpool shirt for my birthday next week, and can you stop calling me Chalks - I’m Stevie from now on”

UEFA Champions League 2011/2012
Let's make something similar.

Schalke? No, they didn't beat current Champions of the World 5-2 at San Siro.

Chelsea? They're shite and they weren't champions of England when we played them.

Marseille? No, they weren't champions of France when we played them, they're shite.

Bursaspor? They weren't champions of Turkey (beating Fenerbahce, Galatasaray and Besiktas). Shite team. Rangers? Shite team and they weren't even champions of such a shite league. Valencia? Can't even win La Liga (the fact it's dominated by Barcelona and Real Madrid, and they're surely the best from the rest, is not important). They're shite.

Jesus, what a bunch of wankers is on RAWK.
 
Do you know what's the funniest in that thread on Champions League?

Someone said we had an easy way to three finals in last four seasons... and someone replied saying Liverpool had a lot of luck winning Champions League in 2005... and then...


That's almost as bad as the Gerrard/Torres 'Go on la' fanfic one of them wrote about the Champions League that the pair was guaranteed to win them.
 
:lol: Right, I think we can safely assume that's not the Caf Scholesy.
And if it is, then it just highlights what a great decision is was to ban him.
 
:lol:

I will try not to predict the actual official winners, since this would be mainly made up of the top 5/6 clubs players. But players who will have great seasons, from teams in the whole league.

Rule: You can only use one player from each team.

Foster
Zubar(Wolves) Jagielka Vermaelen Bale
Lucas Guthrie(Newcaste) Silva
Valencia Kalinic(Blackburn) Barrera(West Ham)

It's 100% him. He makes that thread every year, this was the one from last season.

The young Villa striker...Is going to be fantastic.

I would love us to make a bid for him.

I would consider him along with Rodwell, Wilshere(strange attitude), Cairney, Gibbs and maybe Cleverley as England's top talents.

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Those two posts were made on Redcafe this and last year. And people questioned me when I banned him.
 
:lol:



It's 100% him. He makes that thread every year, this was the one from last season.



Those two posts were made on Redcafe this and last year. And people questioned me when I banned him.

What exactly did Scholesy do to get his ban?
 
A culmination of 100's of things, and it was finally brought about by him wumming across three forums.
 
That place is awful. Suarez "doesn't dive, just exaggerates his falls" but Nani is the biggest diver in the league.
 
Is he actually mentally impaired? Or just really young and naive? It's like he's totally oblivious to the abuse, and the fact everyone thinks he's an idiot - yet carries on anyway.

He reminds me of Cal? in certain ways.
 
Fair play to this member, his post sums up RAWK entirely

Its like an old boys click on here. ran by the people with thousands of posts and five stars which makes them all knowing beings on all thing liverpool fc which gives them the right to dismiss anyone else with a differing opinion or having a joke. wum, the only wind up is that people here think liverpool are a real force when we're not the 80s ended two decades ago so post post away its all the same stuff just recycled every year.