Likewise Liverpool got away with Van Dijk deciding to arse slam James into a player (people will say he won the ball, but he could have easily done so without wiping out James, he was looking for the contact to show how much of a hard man he is), and then Matip hitting him equally as hard ages after the ball had gone. Neither were even given as a foul.
RAWK goes into Meltdown 19/20 Edition
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Likewise Liverpool got away with Van Dijk deciding to arse slam James into a player (people will say he won the ball, but he could have easily done so without wiping out James, he was looking for the contact to show how much of a hard man he is), and then Matip hitting him equally as hard ages after the ball had gone. Neither were even given as a foul.
There is such a thin line with Kloppo and Co they are always good for a superscale meltdown somewhere along the line, it will be their downfall this season as well.
Here's hoping. I'm kind of looking forward to him complaining about having to go and play the World Club Cup, which is due to their own success.
The second one was Fabinho and I'd be surprised if James' nose isn't broken, but the point stands. Both utter pricks that had no intention but to wipe out a player that they were petrified of running at them.
More games and more pressure with the same squad will be hard on them.
What a drum-head.
Was saying as much yesterday, They are on an unbeaten run stretching back however long, clear top of the league, United are narrowly avoiding the relegation zone with losses to the mighty Crystal palace and West Ham and yet they are still convinced there is some sort of conspiracy against them.
Had a look and couldn't find it anywhere obvious. I find it hard to believe that something like that could be conclusively proven with statistics.
Specific to yesterday's game; lots of refs let the game flow rather than picking up on every foul. Matip (Non-British, Non Caucasian) going through James (British Caucasian) wasn't penalised and it seems to be more Atkinson's approach of allowing things to play out rather than stop the match constantly over fiery tackles.
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I reckon most clubs feel that way about him. Hes shocking, had we been playing Chelsea you know he would have called everything the other way.
Oh yeah, he's dreadful alright.
- petitionFeck em. I know it wasn’t a foul but I want more controversy whenever that lot play. I want everything to go against them. They’ve had it good for so long now it’s ridiculous. Bet they don’t talk about the soft pen against Leicester in the last minute or that off side winner against Chelsea. Plus every other decision and bit of luck that’s gone their way. The more controversial the better. Balls to em.
For years we accused them of being game raisers when it comes to our games with them, you can just tell it's eaten away at them these past 30 odd years and they've been waiting for this time to shout it back at us
It's a bit like the Arsenal fans who cant wait to shift the Banter FC tag off of themselves
You'd hope these rivals fan bases could come up with their own material
It's a bit like the Arsenal fans who cant wait to shift the Banter FC tag off of themselves
You'd hope these rivals fan bases could come up with their own material
What is the general consensus on the foul incident? Is it only me who thinks it's more of a dive?
Contact but he made a meal of it.
He did, there was minimal contact. If it’s a non contact sport then it’s a foul all day. Lindelof did nothing wrong. Derrick Acorah made a right meal of it. If that’s in the penalty area then he’s booked for diving.
That and he did the classic holding the 'wrong' leg when he went down like his mate Mane a couple of weeks ago.
But they are hating him because they think he fakes it. Even if you have only half an eye, you could see that he was absolutely smacked into several times yesterday. How can you hate a player for getting smacked?
aye, so not just me then. I read today on many places that Pool are somehow hard done by with that decision.
There was slight contact but thought he bent his knee on purpose so he can fall down after heavy first touch and McT rushing in.
There was slight contact but thought he bent his knee on purpose so he can fall down after heavy first touch and McT rushing in.
On their usual day, the Mane goal stands, ours gets disallowed and Atkinson gives the pen in the dying minutes.
There's going to be some kind of furious petition/ shirt printing going on after this game.
And Lindelof, sent off..
No, they're using the faking it thing as a disingenuous stick to beat him with. They clearly rate him so they're comforting themselves with the idea he's a phoney.
https://tomkinstimes.com/2019/08/big-data-study-referees-are-biased-against-foreign-players/
Here's the link to the article. Goes over the last 7 years of penalties awarded in the Prem.
Claiming Salah is 'labelled' a 'diver' for winning too many pens. He's got a highlight reel for his dives for Christ sake. Are we also forgetting Suarez, Torres, and Alonso who were also prone to sudden bouts of vertigo when 18 yards from goal.
My head hurts from reading that. I mean, I should have stopped once he discounted handballs for being inconsistently awarded over the time period, or where he was arguing over whether Zaha should be considered British or Foreign, or where he started having a dig at united players (and even referenced it himself).
Its far from an airtight study; there's quite a lot of assumptions in there (prime example being an expected amount of penalties being given or the fact he uses absolute figures for % of British versus Foreign even though the majority of those wont be directly involved in a penalty decision). Penalties are a small percentage of overall goals scored in that period (around 5-6%) and are never awarded at a consistent rate. Attacking teams will earn more penalties, struggling teams tend to concede more. Refs also aren't infallible and up until this season it was down to the ref or linesman being in the right position to identify all penalties. It was far from perfect and this is exactly why VAR came in.
Mot saying refs don't have an unconcious bias, but this "study" does not prove anything.
It’s more a case of officials being biased towards England players than against foreigners. The ref doesn’t take into consideration that Origi was the player brought down, he takes into account that he’d have to deny Rashford a goal. The challenge might have been viewed differently if Martial had been the scorer.
Yes because buying Salah, Allisson and VVD took light years....kinell
At least if you going to act injured,hold the right side
No I thought so too, he made a real meal of it, and it didn't seem to get picked up
It’s good to see RAWK are self aware as ever, and fully onboard and supporting or agreeing with Jamie Carragher speaking out about racism, and admitting they were in the wrong with the t-shirts supporting Suarez after the Evra incident. You can always rely on them to be on the right side of an incident, and on message with general public opinion. Or not.
Classy
At least if you going to act injured,hold the right side
Not the first time I saw thisAt least if you going to act injured,hold the right side
Seems like a habit among players which means the contact must be so soft that They didn't feel it.Wouldn't be Scousers if they never raised motions for a petition