Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

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What's there to be baffled at? He's an elite CF prospect. Top CF prospects are very rare. Bayern are signing a 30 year old after they went a year without a striker because their mid 30s striker left to go to Barca. Madrid lost their mid 30s striker and are using a striker less formation now, waiting to sign Mbappe who is a wide forward anyway. City have Haaland who along with Osimhen are literally the only under 30 year old strikers who are ready for top teams. Before getting Haaland, City went a year without a striker too. Liverpool don't really have a striker, just a bunch of wide forwards. Arsenal have Jesus who is a CF and works hard but doesn't score much.

The CF market is shit is what it is. Football stopped developing strikers so when you get the chance to sign a top prospect, you simply pay up if you want him.

You have Haaland, Kane, Lewandowski, Osimhen, Benzema who are the top level strikers currently. 3 of them are 30+, 1 is at City and the other is getting quoted at 150m+, and was bought by Napoli before he did much for 70m anyway.

You have a bunch of wide forwards who teams try to adapt to make do at CF, to varying degrees, like Jota/Gakpo, Isak, Kolo Muani, even Mbappe, who aren't proper #9's and don't really do that hold up play and being a focal point (or to varying levels).

You have mid tier players like Lautaro, Vlahović, Toney, Ramos, Watkins, Mitrovic who are being quoted absurd fees without having top level potential, so you would pay elite level prices for Europa League production out of them as their ceiling.

Then you have a few youngsters with big potential, like Hojlund and Sesko. And of them, Hojlund is the one of the very few on this entire list who is a proper #9 with all the tools to be a top center forward. Think of it like paying to get a CF in the mold of Dzeko, Lewandowski, Ibra, Kane, Drogba, Cavani, etc at the age of 20. None of these guys did anything at that age, most broke out at 22/23 (Kane at 21). The second these guys break through, they are over 100m and pretty much unobtainable if you didn't get them beforehand (unless you are Haaland who puts a clause in). It's securing a rare profile, elite talent that we happen to be in dire need of as well, and a player who may not be all that far away from stepping up either.

As for who starts... Martial doesn't have the pace or strength or movement in the box that Hojlund has, despite the age. Yeah Martial will get his gametime when fit which is good. Hojlund is barely 20. By the time Martials contract is out, Hojlund might just be ready to be the full time guy. He gives us that threat in behind that only Rashford offers in our squad, he gives us proper #9 movement in the box, he gives us a focal point.
Disagree entirely that the Striker market is poor.

There's an abundance of talent out there and young talent too many of whom are obtainable.

The difference is EtH wants a certain player which you have alluded too which diminishes the pool of talent United can go for.

As for City, they went a season without a striker because they were getting Haaland, they now have two out and out strikers.
Liverpool have never really played with a number 9 under Klopp, so have no need for one.
Newcastle have Wilson, Chelsea brought Lukaku, now Jackson, have Broja,
Brighton have Ferguson,

As for starting, Sancho will go into the start of the season as a false 9, Rasmus will only start I guess when EtH feels he is integrated into the team.
 
Alan Shearer scored 23 goals in 118 appearances for Southampton before he moved to Blackburn. I recall all United fans took a sigh of relief when we missed out on him first time around.
 
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Alan Shearer scored 23 goals in 118 appearances for Southampton before he moved to Blackburn. I recall all United fans took a sigh of relief when we missed out on him first time around.
What?

I quoted that exact stat earlier in this thread but I was gutted when we didn’t get him. His quality was obvious. The point was you don’t just look at the stats.
 
Saw this on reddit, which I thought was a good perspective to look at the fee with.

 
What?

I quoted that exact stat earlier in this thread but I was gutted when we didn’t get him. His quality was obvious. The point was you don’t just look at the stats.

I was being sarcy. No one looked at stats back then, they weren't important nor were they readily available. It's all about stats thesedays. But yeah great striker imagine if we bought that young Alan Shearer now. This place would panic and implode.
 
Alan Shearer scored 23 goals in 118 appearances for Southampton before he moved to Blackburn. I recall all United fans took a sigh of relief when we missed out on him first time around.

Don't know about that. I and lots of my United supporting mates knew he was quality, far more than Hirst.
 
A fit and confident Martial, sure, but the Martial towards the end of last season? No way - he seems to have lost confidence in his body to hold up (understandably), and so doesn't sprint, press, or tackle with intensity. That's a shame as I was a big fan
You're right, I should have mentioned a confident Martial as well because like you said toward the end of last season even when he was fit, he couldn't really run nor had any intensity in his game like he did to start Ten Hag's tenure. By then you could tell he'd lost confidence in his body not breaking down and didn't want to push himself. And he's also simply lost burst and physicality due to all the injuries he's sustained. He looked like he was 40 years old out there.
 
Don't know about that. I and lots of my United supporting mates knew he was quality, far more than Hirst.

Yeah I think everyone knew he was quality. Recall Lineker saying he'd become some player post game against Southampton.
 
Less moaning and more flight tracking you miserable sods.

We need a series of Game of Thrones promo vids from the club to unveil him. Winther is coming!!!
 
Always happy to see us sign some of the best potential

Will be a top signing this in the long run. Shame we don’t have a reliable striker to ease him in.
 
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Less moaning and more flight tracking you miserable sods.

We need a series of Game of Thrones promo vids from the club to unveil him. Winther is coming!!!

Winter in Denmark? They’ve probably never even experienced a single snowflake.
 
Saw this on reddit, which I thought was a good perspective to look at the fee with.


Absolutely. Good comparison/point around talent without even considering that the seller isn't desperate to sell and the buyer having a massive need.

Another example would possibly be MG (before the suspension).
 
Alan Shearer scored 23 goals in 118 appearances for Southampton before he moved to Blackburn. I recall all United fans took a sigh of relief when we missed out on him first time around.

“all”? What are you basing that on?
 
I was being sarcy. No one looked at stats back then, they weren't important nor were they readily available. It's all about stats thesedays. But yeah great striker imagine if we bought that young Alan Shearer now. This place would panic and implode.
Oh, phew. I thought I was going mad. Yeah, totally agree!
 
I agree that the strikers market is quite small and there are a lot of teams out there that play without a good striker. What dawns on me is that a lot of team out there that play without a good striker scores more goals than us. So maybe is not a striker that is the problem.
 
That goal against the dippers, and Tyler's subsequent orgasm, sent expectations rocketing.
Yeah that's why imo it's not a good idea to use what Martial did in his first year as a minimum bar here.
To a degree, yeah. But the overarching point still stands -- the very top level attacking talents in that level should be looking at around lower double digit figures. Copying my post earlier on a few players in comparison:
The problem is I don't think Hojlund has showed any of that 'top level attacking talent' so far. Regardless of the price what he has showed imo is an average striker with good physical attributes. He could become a very good one in the future but that's what he's atm imo.

Of course many here wouldn't like to hear that because he's one of our players now and fans tend to think/hope a new signing is x3 better than what he actually is. That's understandable it's part of being excited about a new signing and being a muppet. But again, too much hype and expectation usually doesn't do anyone any good, especially the player imo.

The thing with a new young player is of course it's fantastic if he could hit the ground running. Who doesn't love that. But if he doesn't we gotta be patient and let ETH does his job imo.
 
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Yes but my point is he's not as good as a fit Martial and the money we've spent on him is mental.

I have to admit I have never seen Rasmus Højlund and wont bother with Youtube, but your comment has caught my attention.
Martial is fairly rubbish most of the time, fit or not.

To state this lad isnt as good as a largely shit player is a worry
 
Secondly, I will absolutely have expectations on him. If Manchester United put a 5 year old up front, I’d have expectations of him too. If we were not allowed/expected to have expectations of a player, they shouldn’t be playing at all. This is Manchester United. This is before we even get to the fact that he cost us £65m.
Spot on! What people complaining about the moaners dont seem to get is that we dont have a gripe with signing Rasmus but with the fact that the club went and signed him as what will likely be our main striker, while the whole world knows that its unfair on the kid to put him in such a role and it would literaly take an freak season from him to be a 20+ goals striker form the off. If he was signed along with Kane nobody would have a problem with signing him and there would be genuine excitement whithout the burden of expectations. But his price almoast guarantees that there will be no other striker signed this window as much as it would be nice to hope for a late Kane swoop. And for the people saying he only needs to outscore Weghorst and Martial last season - no, he will have to do more than that if we want to progress and seriously compete, otherwise we're again stuck in a top 4 brawl.
 
Don't know about that. I and lots of my United supporting mates knew he was quality, far more than Hirst.
This. The general consensus was that we missed out on a potentially top class striker. Certainly by PL standards back in the day.
 
Reminder that Sturm Graz bought him in January 2022, Atalanta bought him in the summer and now we're buying him a season later, his rise has been extremely quick, I think we'll see more from him this season than people realise
 
It’s really weird - no flight number, no pictures from either airport…
 
I have to admit I have never seen Rasmus Højlund and wont bother with Youtube, but your comment has caught my attention.
Martial is fairly rubbish most of the time, fit or not.

To state this lad isnt as good as a largely shit player is a worry

It's completely baseless and pure bollocks.

Don't think this guy has a good thing to say about a single signing we make.
 
It’s really weird - no flight number, no pictures from either airport…
Bet he can still walk through an airport with a cap on and barely anyone knows him.

Haha give it a few weeks and he won't be able to walk anywhere in peace.
 
It’s really weird - no flight number, no pictures from either airport…

Ah man maybe he doesn't even exist? It would be classic United to have fallen for a scam like this.

A striker called "Hojlund".... so obvious in retrospect.
 
What does a medical usually entail at this elite level? Could a player still pass a medical with a minor injury in the off season for example?
 
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