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Yes we overpaid by about 15-20 mils. Same for Mount. But that's the way it is now for us.64m + 8m add on is daylight robbery. Someone needs to call the police.
Yes we overpaid by about 15-20 mils. Same for Mount. But that's the way it is now for us.64m + 8m add on is daylight robbery. Someone needs to call the police.
Jamie Jackson is never rightOnce again we panic and overpay, no doubt after PSG threw their hat in the ring. And Jamie Jackson is right we might as well have just coughed up another 28-30m for Kane.
Believing Jamie Jackson is a mistake.Once again we panic and overpay, no doubt after PSG threw their hat in the ring. And Jamie Jackson is right we might as well have just coughed up another 28-30m for Kane.
You're missing the point entirely. Rooney was a generational specimen so the lack of goals were palatable.In age 16-21 Rooney is the best player I’ve ever seen. No doubt. I see very little Rooney in Højlund. Apparently that is needed to put out, despite me never even insinuating that Højlund is at Rooney’s level or resemble his style.
I however find it comical that posters like you and Cassidy put soooo mind numbingly much focus on his (lack of) goals relative to his fee - and then the moment someone dare to point to our history books of transfers where goals scored wasn’t impressive (by your measurements) yet we still broke transfer records and had massive success, you deliberately misrepresent the intentions and make it out like I compare Højlund to Rooney. I’m not.
But when you present transfer strategies like “9 league goals players shouldn’t cost this” you should expect to be handed examples where that strategy would’ve been the wrong approach, cause we wouldn’t have gotten Rooney or Law with it.
What he said!I hope the moaners on here don't try to rip hinm to shreds early, but people love to hate for some reason.
I am very excited about this signing, I hope the moaners on here don't try to rip hinm to shreds early, but people love to hate for some reason.
That is a better way to state it, but that is still only the value according to you. The value to us is much higher because we desperately need a striker, and decent ones are very hard to come by at the moment. Atalanta of course know this.To make it make more sense, their reported bid of 50m euros is roughly more in line with his value. Cool.
A bit weird there mate.Some people will always remain miserable and negative, no matter what. I can bet some of the people here would like him fail just so they can say I told you so.
I said if fit. Yeah its ridiculous. But that's where we are. We played fking Weghourst last season. You would have been locked up if you suggested that last summer. You would have also been laughed at if you suggested Hojlund as your main striker. Its fkd but it is what it is. We still need Martial. Even if its wheeling him out on a wheelchair for 30 mins here and thereI can't believe how many times I've read this, this summer if I find a pot of gold at the end of the garden I'll be over the moon.
He is a brilliant back up striker. That's how he should be.treated and it would be unfair and setting him up to fail if he is seen as a main striker. I fully expect Martial if fit and Rashford to play majority of the games as striker. Or we get another striker late in the window.
People think the fee indicates he must start but main strikers are 100 mill plus. Back up strikers around 60 by the look of it.
See if a lot of posters blindly defending the fee as though it represented objective fair value would have just said this instead, there wouldn't be pages of disagreement.Obviously we are over paying, but with decent strikers few and far between paying over the odds for a good prospect seems to be the only way forward.
There is at least a chance this works out as we actually have a manger good at developing players.
Your opinion on this must be a bit depressing. Again, why don’t you wait and see?There isn't much to suggest he's worth the fee, its a massive gamble and the risk in the purchase has to be reflected in the fee (it isn't here)
Or if Antony could just take some shooting lessons off Arjen Robben then we really would have a cracking front threeHojlund, Bruno and Rashford on the counter is mouth watering stuff.
Do not agree with this mentality at all. We have not spent £64m on a player to be a backup striker. That's just ridiculous thinking. Especially given our dismal goalscoring record. Who is he coming here to backup?He is a brilliant back up striker. That's how he should be.treated and it would be unfair and setting him up to fail if he is seen as a main striker. I fully expect Martial if fit and Rashford to play majority of the games as striker. Or we get another striker late in the window.
People think the fee indicates he must start but main strikers are 100 mill plus. Back up strikers around 60 by the look of it.
All the blubbing about us overpaying reminds me of the time when we signed Casemiro. Some people just look for the negatives.See if a lot of posters blindly defending the fee as though it represented objective fair value would have just said this instead, there wouldn't be pages of disagreement.
I dont remember the casemiro winging to be fair. The scoff at fee is more justified here than with Casemiro though. The latter was the best DM in the world.All the blubbing about us overpaying reminds me of the time when we signed Casemiro. Some people just look for the negatives.
I agree with this. He's going to be our centre-forward, it's not like we have another specialist for that position. He's not a boy, he's a tall, strong young man and he'll be fine.Do not agree with this mentality at all. We have not spent £64m on a player to be a backup striker. That's just ridiculous thinking. Especially given our dismal goalscoring record. Who is he coming here to backup?
Also, and more to the point, the guy is 20 years old FFS. How can you cap his potential at backup striker when he has barely even started a career? He must be, and will be, given every chance to become the club's lead striker. The age and the price tag demands that he is given every chance to come good and I have a good feeling about him and strongly believe he will come good fairly quickly.
These types of signings are what our club and our success has been built on. They don’t always work out but then how many transfers have post Fergie.Sad thing is, if old Rasmus doesn’t hit the ground running, then half of them will be turning against him
You think we overpaid for Hojlund, yet think Jamie Jackson is correct in thinking £100m would get you Kane? Dealing with Levy in the process?Once again we panic and overpay, no doubt after PSG threw their hat in the ring. And Jamie Jackson is right we might as well have just coughed up another 28-30m for Kane.
Get a darts announcer "ONE HUNDRED AND EIIIIIIGHTY million"Every time a player touches the ball, I think the stadium announcer should announcing exactly how much they cost, value in the market is the real quiz, who cares about trophies.
I'd bet my house he is in the starting lineup from day 1. A world class main striker is 100m. A good young prospect from a middling Serie A side is 72m.
ETH doesn't rate Martial and knows Rashford is best on the left.
There was a heck of a lot of people saying he was past it and we were fleeced at the price we paid.I dont remember the casemiro winging to be fair. The scoff at fee is more justified here than with Casemiro though. The latter was the best DM in the world.
He gives off more Cavani/Tevez vibes to me personally
I really don't know why players would want to join our team with the sort of support they get from some fans who write them off before they even kick a ball, just because they aren't the sexy name they want.
He gives off more Cavani/Tevez vibes to me personally
Press reporting Kane wants £600,000 a week, that is another reason we cannot sign him, apart from Levy won't sell to us unless it was well over £100m and I mean well over.Based on what I've read and heard in press conferences, Jamie Jackson is a bit uncouth. Not sure if it's natural or a move to engineer more clicks, but it makes me doubt his credibility. Especially when subtitlty and precision is required.
We need to keep this practical. Maybe we could change the shirt number to transfer fee and wages. Perhaps one step further it should be the yearly amortised number to avoid the numbers being too high as they will be difficult to read.Every time a player touches the ball, I think the stadium announcer should be announcing exactly how much they cost, value in the market is the real quiz, who cares about trophies.
Could believe when his name was mentioned. He couldn't even get in a Leicester side that got relegated. If Toney had not been a naughty boy we might have gone for him, but the fee would likely have scuppered us unless we didn't spend elsewhere. I can actually see Greenwood being gradually intergrated back in.The thing that baffles me, is some wanting the least sexy names over this lad! People genuinely asking why we can't just sign Iheanacho instead