Valencia Shin Crosses
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nonsense, a player that weak was never destined for the top.
Yes it’s very smart to look at everything with black and white glasses
nonsense, a player that weak was never destined for the top.
Did you read the sentence before that? Which clubs are supposedly fine with getting the same amount for a player over multiple years as they are for getting it immidiately?No the alternative is to seek other players. You don't have to sign cheaper, you could sign more proven though for the same money
For this fee I actually would have preferred Ramos or Kolo Muani, lets hope ETH has got this one right
Tell me you read and comprehend at grade 1 level, without telling me. I didn’t compare him to Rooney - I took his logic of saying “one shouldn’t pay this amount for a 9 league goals player” and outlined how our two best strikers in our history literally had 9/10 league goals seasons before joining for record breaking sums.So how Hojlund comes with comparable talent to Wayne Rooney.
This is fecking hilarious.
Nah, @simonhch nailed you to the wall and it's killing you.
Didn’t compare him to Rooney. Was told we just simply shouldn’t pay this sum for a 9 league goals player - hence mentioning Rooney and Law.Can we stop comparing with Everton's Rooney? It's a bit silly, and wrong in so many ways.
We've been chasing this type of striker for a while now - first Haaland, then Nunez and now Hojlund. I don't think Kolo Muani matches that profile. Ramos maybe but I guess they prefer Hojlund over him?
Oh now Pigeon has got under his skin too, he’s gonna blow.
Tell me you read and comprehend at grade 1 level, without telling me. I didn’t compare him to Rooney - I took his logic of saying “one shouldn’t pay this amount for a 9 league goals player” and outlined how our two best strikers in our history literally had 9/10 league goals seasons before joining for record breaking sums.
If you don’t think he’s good then say that, maybe go wild and take a swing on what trait he should improve (would however require having seen him play, I know). But clinging onto a stat like lack of goals scored without any specific point to what it is he isn’t good enough at, just screams “I haven’t seen him play, so I’ll just focus on goals scored, despite him being young, playing for a mediocre team, in his first season in a big league).
I’m really wound up today aren’t I
There's no excuses, it's about creating a structure that will then lead to developing a play style that correlates to the modern reality. Where we develop a team from back to front that not only attacks as a collective unit but also presses and controls the game out of possession. All the players we've signed thus far fit into the plan imo.Whats the excuse this summer for overpaying here then when there is stability now?
In reality, we overpay a lot because we have poor negotiators and a DOF who does not have exceptional relationships with deal makers around Europe.
We also overpaid for Mount by the way, but I won't even get into that one.
Make sense according to who? Erik ten Hag, the recruitment team, and the people writing the cheques that have a closer eye and ought to have more concern for the banality that is 10-15 million in the coffers seem to think it makes sense.Then you should also know that the club doesn't have to sign who the manager want when the money doesn't make sense. E.g Antony last season (when the club could have sourced other options)
I mean he is right, he is talking about stat merchants that ignore everything else that looks promising in lads game. Nothing hilarious about that, he is comparing situations, not two players ffs.So how Hojlund comes with comparable talent to Wayne Rooney.
This is fecking hilarious.
Antony vibes here. But this case I hope he will be a better success than Antony.
They go full Randy Marsh-ejaculation when they can go “told you so”. They will prefer being sour pissheads that predicted a bunch of the club’s bad calls beforehand over being proved wrong and the club thereby thriving. No joy whatsoever.There's so many on here who do nothing but fecking moan and complain about Utd all the time.
I don't get why they got into football, it seems to bring them nothing but unhappiness.
If you think the evaluation of Hojlund is solely based on the goals, it's your comprehension that's at fault kid.Tell me you read and comprehend at grade 1 level, without telling me. I didn’t compare him to Rooney - I took his logic of saying “one shouldn’t pay this amount for a 9 league goals player” and outlined how our two best strikers in our history literally had 9/10 league goals seasons before joining for record breaking sums.
If you don’t think he’s good then say that, maybe go wild and take a swing on what trait he should improve (would however require having seen him play, I know). But clinging onto a stat like lack of goals scored without any specific point to what it is he isn’t good enough at, just screams “I haven’t seen him play, so I’ll just focus on goals scored, despite him being young, playing for a mediocre team, in his first season in a big league).
I'm laughing rightly at the fallacy in blindly comparing stats.I mean he is right, he is talking about stat merchants that ignore everything else that looks promising in lads game. Nothing hilarious about that, he is comparing situations, not two players ffs.
It is like someone compares a young lads visual style to a former star player and people come to moan "how can you compare those two players" as in ability wise, it is not that fecking hard.
There's so many on here who do nothing but fecking moan and complain about Utd all the time.
I don't get why they got into football, it seems to bring them nothing but unhappiness.
If I'm not mistaken hes clocked higher speeds than Rashford last season. At least I read that somewhere.How fast is he? And is he top speed fast or acceleration fast?
you can't just casually name drop Rooney and not expect people to think you're comparing them. If we were paying 75m for a young Mbappe no one would bat an eyelid.Tell me you read and comprehend at grade 1 level, without telling me. I didn’t compare him to Rooney - I took his logic of saying “one shouldn’t pay this amount for a 9 league goals player” and outlined how our two best strikers in our history literally had 9/10 league goals seasons before joining for record breaking sums.
If you don’t think he’s good then say that, maybe go wild and take a swing on what trait he should improve (would however require having seen him play, I know). But clinging onto a stat like lack of goals scored without any specific point to what it is he isn’t good enough at, just screams “I haven’t seen him play, so I’ll just focus on goals scored, despite him being young, playing for a mediocre team, in his first season in a big league).
How fast is he? And is he top speed fast or acceleration fast?
Well it clearly is when the poster literally wrote that we shouldn’t pay this fee for a “9 league goals player” ffs, sport.If you think the evaluation of Hojlund is solely based on the goals, it's your comprehension that's at fault kid.
Well I expected people to be able to read. Apparently that was setting the bar too high…you can't just casually name drop Rooney and not expect people to think you're comparing them. If we were paying 75m for a young Mbappe no one would bat an eyelid.
I am the biggest moaner when it comes to performances and how the club is run,however like to think I am more willing to be patient with signings whatever I think of them
Nah not at all for me. Neither have the potential Hojlund has or are close to the perfect stylistic fit that Hojlund is. Kolo Muani plays more like a wide forward who plays centrally, but he doesn't play in a way where he is a focal point which is what we need. Ramos as well for me, haven't seen anything from him that shows he has the physical attributes to survive up top in the prem or the hold up play ability.For this fee I actually would have preferred Ramos or Kolo Muani, lets hope ETH has got this one right
Let’s be clear here. Most of us “moaning” about the club having its pants pulled down (again) on a transfer fee will be very patient with the 20 year old prospect we’ve just signed.
The people who will not be patient are those who actually think this is a reasonable fee and expect Hojlund to live up to it immediately. We’ve already got posts about Eric needing to deliver ffs based off the back of signing a Cf who probably wouldn’t start for any other top 10 premier league club currently.
If I'm not mistaken hes clocked higher speeds than Rashford last season. At least I read that somewhere.
You are a bit dim aren't you. Goal comparison or not, Rooney was obviously a special case. That's something that goes without saying.Well I expected people to be able to read. Apparently that was setting the bar too high…
The irony.You are a bit dim aren't you. Goal comparison or not, Rooney was obviously a special case. That's something that goes without saying.
Come on that’s harsh!
I think lots of rival fans seem to really rate him actually, which is always a good sign imo.