Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

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Thing is you said we got skinned for all 3 deals which is simply untrue.

And it's not as if we're buying some nobodies.
Weren't we? Am I crazy?

The only one I can give you is Onana. Ok, his stock rose this year, with Inter reaching CL final and all that but come on! Mount, 1 year left on his contract? Hojlund?

I guess I'm crazy.
 
Or in 12 months time when it transpires that a kid with 9 goals for a mid-table team in Serie A isn’t actually good enough to lead the line for United? At the fee we are apparently paying, this is one of the most high risk transfers I can ever remember and I really really hope we’ve got it right.
I’m going to wait until then before moaning in case I look like a dick head. On the other hand there is nothing wrong with being optimistic and exited about signing a young prospect irrespective of a fee that will never personally impact you.
 
All due respect but this is everything that makes the cafe such a downer these days. People forming concrete opinions on players before we've even seen them sign a contract with the club, let alone actually play. It affects anybodys ability to view something impartially.

I think we've got a very talented manager here who knows exactly what type of squad he's trying to build, and is backed up by people that seem capable of improving a lot of our players. They seem to believe that Hojlund is worth the investment so us 'laymen' should take some confidence from that.

We had a very promising first season under Ten Hag, and the squad already looks better than it was. Get excited. Why not?

If you quoted my whole message, I went onto say I’m really excited by Onana.

Mainoo also excites me - gutted for his injury.

Garnacho excites me.

Not being overly excited by Mount or Højlund isn’t really the massive ‘negative’ it’s being made out to be.

It’s more hysterical to suggest that it is.
 
Couldn’t care less about the fee.

He’s the sort of striker we needed. Someone with pace and power to get in-behind and stretch sides.
 
Weren't we? Am I crazy?

The only one I can give you is Onana. Ok, his stock rose this year, with Inter reaching CL final and all that but come on! Mount, 1 year left on his contract? Hojlund?

I guess I'm crazy.
Maybe. :)
 
Overpaid by a lot. Hope this kid is worth it. EtH has to deliver now, all his targets arrived in time and we spend over 350 million in three windows he has been here. I am expecting a title challenge and a deep CL run.
 
jesus... Thought club was moving away from these mega fee. These guy will never learn
This is the exact reason clubs want to grind us for every last pennies.
New owner can't come soon enough
 
Doesn't make sense that the price jumped 50%. That's not how you should negotiate.

My gut feeling is that the price quoted is wrong or we have some deals on advanced stage to sell our unwanted players.
It's bizarre.
 
jesus... Thought club was moving away from these mega fee. These guy will never learn
This is the exact reason clubs want to grind us for every last pennies.
New owner can't come soon enough
You think the new owners would get this done for half?

I'm not convinced either paying so much for someone who has shown so little but this is striker market for you.
 
When you remember how well we handled matches at times with zero goal threat Wout, this kid is coming in to a great position.

All he has to do is work hard and he will already beat what came before. 0 goals from the last United CF, so he will immediately make an impact. There is no pressure and no big name to replace.

I think he is going to be a massive success and immediately makes us better, even as an unfinished product. The only way is up, quite literally.

United has always been about exciting youngsters and this feels exciting.
 
jesus... Thought club was moving away from these mega fee. These guy will never learn
This is the exact reason clubs want to grind us for every last pennies.
New owner can't come soon enough

We'd probably pay more under new ownership tbh
 
I'm unfathomably bored, so to all the "9 goals is hardly great"-chaps, here's a few great strikers in their first season in a top-5 league:

Name + Age in seasonClubSeasonGoals - all comps.Assists - all comps. Minutes per goal/assist
Zlatan - 22/23 years oldJuventus2004-0516 goals11 assists133 minutes
Højlund - 19/20 years oldAtalanta2022-2310 goals4 assists135 minutes
Raúl - 17 years oldReal Madrid1994-9510 goals3 assists145 minutes
Lewandowski - 22/23 years oldDortmund2010-119 goals4 assists152 minutes
Torres - 18/19 years oldAtl. Madrid2002-0314 goals 1 assist163 minutes
Batistuta - 22/23 years oldFiorentina 1991-9214 goals0 assists179 minutes
Agüero - 18 years old Atl. Madrid2006-077 goals0 goals394 minutes

Do with it what you want. I look at it as a way a normalizing expectations for strikers and their goal hauls in a top-5 league. As I've found out, a bunch of the strikers that became legends, had top 5-league debut seasons where they didn't necessarily score or assist 1,5 goals a game like Haaland or Brazilian Ronaldo.

Højlund will be an extremely exciting signing. I just hope our fans are aware of the fact they can't simultaneously want a young striker and also demand that the young striker is a finished product. It's not how signing a 20 year old works - Haaland is an anomaly in that regard. Højlund will miss sitters, misplace passes, shoot where he should've passed, pass where he should've shot, but hopefully we can develop him into a world class striker and be our first one since van Persie.
 
You think the new owners would get this done for half?

I'm not convinced either paying so much for someone who has shown so little but this is striker market for you.

No, the damage is done, all started with Ed Woodward's infamous "warchest" speech and will take years to fix this, regardless of whoever owner that is.
But at least you should't make this such deal and contribute more to the problem that we have.
 
Doesn’t matter how he ends up. In this market we have way overpaid for his value.
In hindsight yes you could say you got a steal but in reality we have not got value for money on this deal today.

Hopefully he turns out well, alot of pressure on him this season though
Value is a bit of a fluid concept and very subjective. At the very least, we ought to wait until he’s played for us a few times before concluding he is bad value (or good).
 
If you quoted my whole message, I went onto say I’m really excited by Onana.

Mainoo also excites me - gutted for his injury.

Garnacho excites me.

Not being overly excited by Mount or Højlund isn’t really the massive ‘negative’ it’s being made out to be.

It’s more hysterical to suggest that it is.

That's fine, but you're camped in this thread and picking arguments and I can't help but wonder what's driving the emotion here. This kids pretty much an unknown and that's what makes this one so exciting, regardless of the price or whatever else.

If you're one of the 1% in this thread that's actually watched him play lots of football matches then that would add some weight. Are you one of the 1%, honestly?
 
From what I've read he is pretty rapid. Speed isn't an issue
He is fast. There are a lot of things I'm not too convinced about but he's definitely quick and strong.
Good to hear.

I said nippy because I can see he can hold his own once he gets going, but in some instances his acceleration was pretty meh.

Hopefully I'm completely wrong then.
 
Our fans are way too worried about what rival fans say or don't say.
Recent times have shown that since at least 2018, strikers have been difficult to sign and the cost for them has been high across the board.
Haaland was a one off, but we really don't know the details behind that transfer.
Brazilian strikers straight from their league are going for 40m up.
The going rate for strikers is quite high at the moment and it has not provided any guarantees over the last few years outside of Haaland and Lewandowski ( who people would not have been willing to buy due to his age).
Teams have also started to try and sign younger options because established options are getting tagged at over 150m, particularly at the centre forward position.
So they are at a premium. 1. Because there are not many of them at the moment. 2. Because with a young striker projected to be worth over 100m in future, you don't know what the market will look like then. There could be less physical strikers or higher prices for strikers at the time.
Goncalo Ramos with a few appearances for Portugal has been tagged at 100m, Kolo Muani has a similar tag too. These are young unestablished strikers who have a lot to prove and that's their tag due to having just a little bit of exposure.
It is also quite clear that we needed a striker. We held off this last summer because we put faith In Ronaldo and Martial.
Both of whom disappointed due to many different factors.
We struggled with their inability to press, pin back defences and make effective runs off the ball. We struggled with presence in that position.
Hojlund provides us with that.
You could make the argument that not having a no.9 and not having depth are the two factors that stopped us from challenging for the title last season. Hojlund coming in already fixes those problems. These were problems we couldn't afford to go into next season without addressing and we addressed them.
It's also quite obvious that we aren't selling Martial and haven't made a decision regarding a certain individual. It's not like we are just hanging our hat completely on Rasmus. What we are ensuring is that we have a no.9 with quality who can lead the line, connect our attacking play and be a focal point immediately and can be a player the club can call on for the next 10 years. We then also have Martial who we would not have to care about his fitness either.
Titles aren't won on net spend, Arsenal under Wenger in his later years should have made that clear to everyone.
 
I think he'll be a good starting striker for Denmark for years. I haven't yet seen anything that gives me confidence that he has it in him to become one of the best strikers of his generation. Most facets of his game are very raw, he doesn't really stand out in any particular area, and despite scoring a lot of goals in those games, he actually missed quite a few big chances too. I'm excited to see a Danish striker at United and I hope for the sake of both my club and country that I'm wrong but I simply don't see him as someone who has it in him to nail down a starting spot at a club like United – and I think it's also somewhat worrying that the coaches at FC Copenhagen didn't really rate him that highly just 18 months ago.

The guy turned only 20 in February, and I trust ten Hag that he knows what he’s doing. There are so called fans on here who are questioning ten Hag’s ability to identify new signings even though Martinez & Casemiro were arguably our best players last season along with Rashford.
 
I guess it must be 64m + 8m euros and all the journalists changed it to pounds as they normally do. 70m euros(reported by Romano) is a much more believable price which Atlanta will surely be happy with.
Romano updated it.
 
jesus... Thought club was moving away from these mega fee. These guy will never learn
This is the exact reason clubs want to grind us for every last pennies.
New owner can't come soon enough
Ah yes. The new ‘unlimited funds’ Qatari owners wouldn’t have us overpaying for anyone. I’m glad someone here is talking some sense for once :lol:
 
Depends on who you choose to believe. Romano says 70m euros with addons, which is closer to what you thought. I won't believe we would bid 72m pounds after the initial verbal bid was around 42m pounds.
Romano has broken down the fee and has updated the same that United are paying 75m+10m to Atlanta.
 
That's fine, but you're camped in this thread and picking arguments and I can't help but wonder what's driving the emotion here. This kids pretty much an unknown and that's what makes this one so exciting, regardless of the price or whatever else.

If you're one of the 1% in this thread that's actually watched him play lots of football matches then that would add some weight. Are you one of the 1%, honestly?

I’m actually just replying to messages - as with this here.

If it bothers you, no offence intended, just press ignore mate.
 
I don't get why everyone is getting in a twist about the fee. We should worry more about the player on the end of the deal. If he's a success here 64m or 72m will be a fair price. It's only expensive if he fails and fact remains the manager wants him.

I for one am pleased that we're going for a striker with something to prove on his way up. I don't know much about him but from what I've read he could be a good striker.

I trust the process, and hope he can flourish here
 
jesus... Thought club was moving away from these mega fee. These guy will never learn
This is the exact reason clubs want to grind us for every last pennies.
New owner can't come soon enough
£60m is hardly a mega fee.
 
Weren't we? Am I crazy?

The only one I can give you is Onana. Ok, his stock rose this year, with Inter reaching CL final and all that but come on! Mount, 1 year left on his contract? Hojlund?

I guess I'm crazy.
Yup. First step is acceptance. Good job.
 
It literally says that at the start of the article. £64m + £8m in add ons.

Orstein says 85m euros including add ons.

Yeah so it is £64m + add ons OR £72m including add ons.
You incorrectly ‘corrected’ a poster who said it was £64m plus add ons so you can’t have meant 72m combined.
 
Wild, wild money for a player at his age and situation. Fans will, unfortunately, slam him if he doesn't start hot or when he has his first inevitable dry spell. Excited to get him in but, hope he handles the expectations well.
 
Wild, wild money for a player at his age and situation. Fans will, unfortunately, slam him if he doesn't start hot or when he has his first inevitable dry spell. Excited to get him in but, hope he handles the expectations well.

Why is £64m + addons a wild fee? Were you expecting a striker with a lot of potential to cost £20m or something?
 
Great signing. Good fee too. Hopefully we can get a back up for Casemiro and that'll be that for incomings.
Yeah, I think he won’t look too expensive after he plays for us and we start to see the reasons he’s been bought.

Then: Competition for CM and DM is what we need. Not “back up”, imo.

Now that Hoj is sorted we can focus on that. All going pretty well thus far.
 
People cry about our lack of forward options and when they sign a striker they continue to complain, very odd.

Moan about the price once we've actually seen him play for the club and we get to see what he is like after some time, no reason to have a meltdown already.
 
No, the damage is done, all started with Ed Woodward's infamous "warchest" speech and will take years to fix this, regardless of whoever owner that is.
But at least you should't make this such deal and contribute more to the problem that we have.


I think you have to take into consideration ETH is building a squad in a short space of time. Once the squad is built, I think we will be more ruthless and long term planning in the transfer market. We won't have that desperate need anymore (because we'll have and established squad) and clubs won't be able to hold us to ransom.
 
Or in 12 months time when it transpires that a kid with 9 goals for a mid-table team in Serie A isn’t actually good enough to lead the line for United? At the fee we are apparently paying, this is one of the most high risk transfers I can ever remember and I really really hope we’ve got it right.
We bought Antony like a year ago ffs. What makes this one riskier?
 
The price is the price.... Evan Ferguson would cost someone even more if they went for this season. Strikers are on the rise again, and there's a dearth of talent at the moment.
 
Men er han i stand til at fylde det hul endnu? Han har klart potentiale, men vi mangler desperat en målscorer nu, ikke i fremtiden. Jeg håber da at han slår igennem i den kommende sæson, men det er en meget stor satsning. Jeg ville være mere tryg hvis vi havde købt ham og en seniorangriber. I mine øjne er der ingen sikkerhed overhovedet for at han kan udfylde de krav vi har. Jeg kan se at han måske ville kunne det om 2-3 år, men allerede nu? Jeg tvivler.

Tar et rom dokka to.
 
I'm unfathomably bored, so to all the "9 goals is hardly great"-chaps, here's a few great strikers in their first season in a top-5 league:

Name + Age in seasonClubSeasonGoals - all comps.Assists - all comps. Minutes per goal/assist
Zlatan - 22/23 years oldJuventus2004-0516 goals11 assists133 minutes
Højlund - 19/20 years oldAtalanta2022-2310 goals4 assists135 minutes
Raúl - 17 years oldReal Madrid1994-9510 goals3 assists145 minutes
Lewandowski - 22/23 years oldDortmund2010-119 goals4 assists152 minutes
Torres - 18/19 years oldAtl. Madrid2002-0314 goals1 assist163 minutes
Batistuta - 22/23 years oldFiorentina1991-9214 goals0 assists179 minutes
Agüero - 18 years oldAtl. Madrid2006-077 goals0 goals394 minutes

Do with it what you want. I look at it as a way a normalizing expectations for strikers and their goal hauls in a top-5 league. As I've found out, a bunch of the strikers that became legends, had top 5-league debut seasons where they didn't necessarily score or assist 1,5 goals a game like Haaland or Brazilian Ronaldo.

Højlund will be an extremely exciting signing. I just hope our fans are aware of the fact they can't simultaneously want a young striker and also demand that the young striker is a finished product. It's not how signing a 20 year old works - Haaland is an anomaly in that regard. Højlund will miss sitters, misplace passes, shoot where he should've passed, pass where he should've shot, but hopefully we can develop him into a world class striker and be our first one since van Persie.

Don’t post reasonable things in here.
 
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