Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

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He has 13 goals and assists in 20 games worth of minutes in Serie A.
You’ve set this bar of lighting up the league but you’ve just proven he can link up with lesser players and bring the best out of his attacking partner while having a big impact on his own. He isn’t some bollard up top, he’s able to be the 9 for a team who wants to play forward, attacking play.
Your stats aren’t proving what you think they’re proving
People don't think it's impressive anymore because of Haaland probably. His record for a young player in a top 5 league is very good (also at international level) having adapted to the league and club in a relatively short period of time. He's been at 3 clubs since the beginning of 2022.
 
If we were given the nod by spurs and it becomes a straight choice between the two (because we’ve not raised enough cash for both), I think you’re right that we’d likely just buy Kane.

How on earth are we getting the nod from Spurs
 
Disclaimer here, I have not watched Atalanta myself. But if you watch his interview which I linked, he says himself that he plays mostly the classic hold-up #9 role while Lookman is the one dribbling and exploring space in the channels and providing the assists. Which also tallies up with Lookman having more than double assists per 90' than Hojlund.


He doesn't actually play that way for them though, he uses his size and pace to get down the sides and hold up play for others. He obviously sees himself as the classic 9 but that is just the role he has successfully played and adapted to at Atalanta.
 
Can’t see Atalanta letting him go for a reasonable fee now when they know PSG are rivalling us for his signature and they’re potentially about to receive £260m for Mbappe!
 
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At the point Juventus paid €75m for Vlahovic, he was 22 years old, having scored 20 in 24 that season and 21 in 40 the previous season. So that is a higher ratio of delivery to potential than Højlund’s 10 goals in 34 games at 20 years, clearly.

At 20 years, Vlahovic had a fairly similar background to Højlund, coming off a 8 goals in 34 games season, but nobody I’m aware of bid those sums for him at that point.

The idea that a 20 y.o. 1-in-4 striker will turn into a 1-in-2 and 3-in-4 striker given time, is of course conjecture, and sounds like a run of the mill emotive negotiation play from Atalanta.

The season he scored 21 in the league, 6 were penalties and the following season he scored 12 and 5 were penalties. It really isn't that impressive, and you need to remember Højlund isn't on penalties for Atalanta, and he won't be here because we already have Bruno.

Højlund is on 9 goals in 32 btw (1834 mins) or 12 goals in 37 if you want to include his games in Austria before his move.
 
He doesn't actually play that way for them though, he uses his size and pace to get down the sides and hold up play for others. He obviously sees himself as the classic 9 but that is just the role he has successfully played and adapted to at Atalanta.

Holding up play absolutely means also holding it up in the wings, not just centrally. Most forward passes are obviously on the channels as the middle is better defended. Drogba ran on the channels to hold up the ball and bring others into play and he was a quintessential #9. There's no dichotomy there. He's not creating much from the wings though, that's Lookman. The poster I replied to said that he was running on the wings and "setting up". I assumed he meant setting up goals, which he doesn't really do. And almost all of Hojlund's goals come from being central in #9 position.
 
Holding up play absolutely means also holding it up in the wings, not just centrally. Most forward passes are obviously on the channels as the middle is better defended. Drogba ran on the channels to hold up the ball and bring others into play and he was a quintessential #9. There's no dichotomy there. He's not creating much from the wings though, that's Lookman. Almost all of Hojlund's goals come from being central in #9 position.
Well yeah, it's fairly difficult to score from the wings mate :lol:
 
Holding up play absolutely means also holding it up in the wings, not just centrally. Most forward passes are obviously on the channels as the middle is better defended. Drogba ran on the channels to hold up the ball and bring others into play and he was a quintessential #9. There's no dichotomy there. He's not creating much from the wings though, that's Lookman. Almost all of Hojlund's goals come from being central in #9 position.

He is not playing like Drogba did at Chelsea. Rasmus is the focal point for their long balls down the lanes and then he actually helps move it in centrally.
Yes his goals are central but that is exactly what is his strength. He helps in build up from the flanks but manages to still get himself in to scoring positions centrally, despite being part of the build up of the attack from the flanks.
Honestly you should probably watch him as that will explain it better.
 
Are you being intentionally obtuse now?

Watch this. His latest goal for Denmark. He wins the ball on the edge, moves to the flank and passes to Højbjerg opening up space for Højbjerg to cross. Before that cross comes in, Rasmus moves in and loses his defender and is open to tap it in.

 
You said you haven’t even watched him but you’re commenting on his playing style.

You said he's playing in way that disagrees with player's own explanation of how he plays. Yet you're still commenting.

I'm sure you understand the difference between setting or scoring foals when coming from a wing position (you know like Rashford frequently does) and from playing centrally.
 
You said he's playing in way that disagrees with player's own explanation of how he plays. Yet you're still commenting.

I'm sure you understand the difference between setting or scoring foals when coming from a wing position (you know like Rashford frequently does) and from playing centrally.
The type of player he sees himself as and his tactical role are two different things.
 
Watch this. His latest goal for Denmark. He wins the ball on the edge, moves to the flank and passes to Højbjerg opening up space for Højbjerg to cross. Before that cross comes in, Rasmus moves in and loses his defender and is open to tap it in.



Okay I watched it. And it's quite similar to other goals he scored. That's still pretty quintessential #9 play for me. I don't know why you feel classic #9s didn't drift to the wings to hold up the ball and create space.
 
Okay I watched it. And it's quite similar to other goals he scored. That's still pretty quintessential #9 play for me. I don't know why you feel classic #9s didn't drift to the wings to hold up the ball and create space.

Most classic 9 stay central and if they are tall and strong receive the ball and lay it off and then search for the box. Its quite rare for a classic 9 to do as much work on the wings that Rasmus does in Atalanta. Lookman doesnt do that for example.
 
I don't know how you listened to that and think that's not the way he's asked to play but the way he imagines himself, but ok.
I've actually watched him play a fair bit mate, I know what type of player he is and what he does.

I created his thread in January in the football forum and have been watching him closely since.
 
Most classic 9 stay central and if they are tall and strong receive the ball and lay it off and then search for the box. Its quite rare for a classic 9 to do as much work on the wings that Rasmus does in Atalanta. Lookman doesnt do that for example.

That is incredibly incorrect. I think you need to go rewatch some Drogba highlights if you think he stayed centrally.
 
I've actually watched him play a fair bit mate, I know what type of player he is and what he does.

I created his thread in January in the football forum and have been watching him closely since.

And in the time you've watched you've come to the conclusion he's a creator from the wings? Because that's literally what started this discussion.
 
I've actually watched him play a fair bit mate, I know what type of player he is and what he does.

I created his thread in January in the football forum and have been watching him closely since.

That's good to know mate. Care to summarise your thoughts on the player again? I am too lazy to go back and search for your posts in the past. Cheers!
 
And in the time you've watched you've come to the conclusion he's a creator from the wings? Because that's literally what started this discussion.
He runs diagonally to the sides a lot which is skewing his stats. He would not be doing that for us.
 
And in the time you've watched you've come to the conclusion he's a creator from the wings? Because that's literally what started this discussion.

Running the channels to receive the ball and pass it around through flicks and quick passes is very different from "creating on the wings".
 
He runs diagonally to the sides a lot which is skewing his stats. He would not be doing that for us.

What I keep explaining over and over in this thread is that making diagonal runs to receive and hold up the ball, is literally typical #9 play. And if he were to play as #9 for us, there's a very good chance he'd be doing it here too.
 
That's good to know mate. Care to summarise your thoughts on the player again? I am too lazy to go back and search for your posts in the past. Cheers!
I haven't really made an in depth post on him on here I don't think to be honest.

@Lyng summarised him pretty well a little bit further up the page

He is not playing like Drogba did at Chelsea. Rasmus is the focal point for their long balls down the lanes and then he actually helps move it in centrally.
Yes his goals are central but that is exactly what is his strength. He helps in build up from the flanks but manages to still get himself in to scoring positions centrally, despite being part of the build up of the attack from the flanks.
Honestly you should probably watch him as that will explain it better.
 
Running the channels to receive the ball and pass it around through flicks and quick passes is very different from "creating on the wings".

Right. I agree. So the original post I replied to was said that Hojlund was "setting up" from the wings and not Lookman.

It all started with me saying that Lookman plays the Support Striker role and @Lyng disagreeing.
The partnership mentioned is with a familiar name, Ademola Lookman. Previously of Everton and Leicester (loan). Worth nothing that Lookman, who struggled to make an impact in the EPL, has much better numbers than Hojlund and is basically carrying the stats for the partnership while playing mostly as support striker.

13 goals and 8 assists in 1.731' for Lookman
9 goals and 4 assists in 1.832' for Hojlund.
I have to disagree here. Rasmus is actually the striker forced to run into the channels on either flank and mostly setting up.

It's pretty clear to me that Hojlund is holding up the ball on the wings. But when the team solidifies possession and moves into attack, it seems it's Lookman who will set up Hojlund from the wings rather than the other way round in that partnership. And it coincides with what Hojlund himself says.
 
I haven't really made an in depth post on him on here I don't think to be honest.

@Lyng summarised him pretty well a little bit further up the page

Thanks! Ties up well with a couple of all touches videos I have seen. I have said it before.. he looks like a well rounded player in terms of physicality, technique, movement and finishing. Which is great for a 20 year old. People here harping on his output should look at the "output" of Garnacho. But would you say Garnacho didn't have impact last season? At a younger age most players aren't prolific. But the good ones become over time.
 
Right. I agree. So the original post I replied to was said that Hojlund was "setting up" from the wings and not Lookman.

It all started with me saying that Lookman plays the Support Striker role and @Lyng disagreeing.



It's pretty clear to me that Hojlund is holding up the ball on the wings. But when the team comes moves up in possession, it seems it's Lookman who will set up Hojlund from the wings rather than the other way round in that partnership. And it coincides with what Hojlund himself says.

Yeah there was a video which showed all his shots last season except one were from inside the box. He is very much a #9 in that sense.
 
Why everything takes too much time with us is beyond me.

It takes a long time because they are trying to fleece us. Only way to reduce the United Tax is to make sure that it wont be worth the seller's time to bump up the fees disproportionately. We have to be the Daniel Levy of buyers.
 
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