Rashford out partying at nightclub hours before reporting as too ill to attend training

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Issue with Rashford is he’s been shite this season. Any other story is the media stirring it up and you lot shouldn’t react.
 
VP89 said:
I'm just saying they have a long standing interest in him, not that he's actually going there mate.
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Yeah, sorry. Not really running an “I’m right, you’re wrong” ‘argument’ - I just don’t see him as an asset that would sell for good money to a big club
 
crossy1686 said:
They can always freeze him out like they did with Sancho. I’m pretty sure he’d have suitors, he’d tear it up in a weaker league.
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I worry that Rashford has far more dressing room power and sway than Sancho.
 
golden_blunder said:
I’m surprised, actually I’m not, at the support he’s getting from some fans despite the shit show of a season he’s having.
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If it was a one-off season then he might be getting more leeway, but even in some of the seasons his numbers have been good his actual performances have been poor. This is 2 seasons out of the last 3 he's been awful.
 
Did Becks even drink when his professionalism was questioned?
 
Gehrman said:
Did Becks even drink when his professionalism was questioned?
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I think they were stories of him regularly travelling back and forth to London from Manchester to see Victoria. Get back to Manchester at 1am and then report to training at 8am.

His performance levels dropped a bit (not as much as Rashford) and that for Ferguson was the ammunition he needed to get rid of the most popular English player at the time and not lose a wink of sleep over it.

So god help Rashford if Fergie was his manager hypothetically.
 
OleGunnar20 said:
Eh, I don't think it's as crazy as it sounds. He's still a reasonably big name, has shown he CAN be very dangerous when his heads screwed on right and his physicality would be well suited to the French league.

I'm not for a minute saying he'd be the best option for them, but we're forced to grasp at straws here really when looking at where to possibly move him on to.

Can you think of any better alternatives? I fear we're stuck with him really, especially with the whole 'United born and raised' factor.
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We’ve backed ourselves into a massive corner (again). Without a compromise on wages (Marcus) or fee (us) I fear the value proposition is tiny. When people talk about PSG I feel they do so because they once expressed interest AND have money to pay big, but why would they?

I think we’ll have to accept we’re not going to sell for mega money, if that happens it opens up a (slightly) bigger market. Accepting 30 - 40m and getting his wages off the books would be better business than holding out for 70 and him stinking the place out.

Another fine mess we’ve been gotten into.
 
Chairman Steve said:
I think they were stories of him regularly travelling back and forth to London from Manchester to see Victoria. Get back to Manchester at 1am and then report to training at 8am.

His performance levels dropped a bit (not as much as Rashford) and that for Ferguson was the ammunition he needed to get rid of the most popular English player at the time and not lose a wink of sleep over it.

So god help Rashford if Fergie was his manager hypothetically.
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Our star players get so much leeway especially if they are from the academy. Mourinho as toxic as he was, was completely right about Rashford and Martial.
 
Rado_N said:
I mean it would be unbearable otherwise tbf.
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As an old stick in the mud myself I agree with you on this, but apparently this new straight edge gen can enjoy the horror that is a British night out without booze. Madness to me too, but there you are!
Frank Grimes said:
He missed training ill. He's hardly missing training because he out at a nightclub and picked up a bug. Common sense.
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There's nothing to suggest he was drinking beyond him being in a nightclub, is there? I haven't seen pictures of him with beers in hand or anything. Don't get me wrong, skipping training after a night out that wasn't sanctioned by the higher ups is very unprofessional, but it doesn't mean he was boozing. Tbh rashford never struck me as a drinker, unlike grealish, rooney etc. Have there been stories about him in a drink in the past?
 
Offside said:
Issue with Rashford is he’s been shite this season. Any other story is the media stirring it up and you lot shouldn’t react.
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What exactly is the media stirring up here? He was out clubbing both nights. It’s a fact.
 
People thinking Rashford would for 30-40m are out of touch with current market valuations.

30m is the price Lois Openda went from Lens to Leipzig last summer.
Whether we like him or not, Rashford usually ends his seasons with around 15-20 G+A. That’s a 70m player minimum
 
Pickle85 said:
Tbh rashford never struck me as a drinker, unlike grealish, rooney etc. Have there been stories about him in a drink in the past?
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He was pictured hanging with Meekz (the rapper) last February. Few weeks later Meekz was asked about it on a podcast, might have been Kick Game or Capital. He said it was a mad night, that Rashford and Brandon Williams - who was also there apparently - 'were on a mad one' and 'even I couldn't keep up with them'.

He's also allegedly a regular at Chinawhite in town - had the birthday party controversy there.

Pictured with snus frequently too. YMMV on whether you think this is an issue or not. Looks like he has a tin in his pocket in the first picture too but he might just be pleased to see me, I'm not sure.
 
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Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
He was pictured hanging with Meekz (the rapper) last February. Few weeks later Meekz was asked about it on a podcast, might have been Kick Game or Capital, and he said it was a mad night and Rashford and Brandon Williams, who was also there apparently, 'were on a mad one' and he said 'even I couldn't keep up with them'.

He's also allegedly a regular at Chinawhite in town - had the birthday party controversy there.

Pictured with snus frequently too. Looks like he has a tin in his pocket in the first picture as well, but he might just be pleased to see me I'm not sure.
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Interesting. Weird that there's nothing more than hearsay though. With folks like grealish and Rooney etc there's plenty of solid evidence but nothing of that sort with rashford. Either way, it does seem as though his head isn't in the footie at the mo.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
He was pictured hanging with Meekz (the rapper) last February. Few weeks later Meekz was asked about it on a podcast, might have been Kick Game or Capital, and he said it was a mad night and Rashford and Brandon Williams, who was also there apparently, 'were on a mad one' and he said 'even I couldn't keep up with them'.

He's also allegedly a regular at Chinawhite in town - had the birthday party controversy there.

Pictured with snus frequently too. Looks like he has a tin in his pocket in the first picture as well, but he might just be pleased to see me I'm not sure.
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I am assuming that bottle is some sort of water or tonic.
 
You can't go to a club, pick up a bug and immediately get sick, there's usually three-four days incubation period. He was probably already sick and symptoms just kicked in that evening.

Of course he could be lying as well but let's not assume the worst outright.
 
I’m a bit puzzled currently why this is a story. So far as I’ve seen, he went to a bar. Are there later pictures of him drunk or did he get back to his hotel at 5am or something? As it stands, just seems like a nothing incident.
 
AltiUn said:
I worry that Rashford has far more dressing room power and sway than Sancho.
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It's not like there's much in there worth a damn anyway to be fair. And I can't see him having much of an influence over the likes of Varane, Case, Bruno, Martinez etc, actual professionals who appear to want to fecking win football matches.

Anyone who takes umbrage with us moving on an unprofessional, sulking, serial underperformer is welcome to follow I'm sure most would agree.
 
I can’t be the only one that finds him completely unrelatable? The state of him and Meekz in that picture is actually laughable to me. Is that what younger folk aspire to be now. FML
 
Pickle85 said:
Interesting. Weird that there's nothing more than hearsay though. With folks like grealish and Rooney etc there's plenty of solid evidence but nothing of that sort with rashford.
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Yeah they definitely keep it more low key. From Laurie Whitwell about the Chinawhite birthday story:

The United forward was spotted partying at the popular Chinawhite nightspot in Manchester's city centre. Rashford was situated in an exclusive private VIP area, housing only his group.
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There were other reports about him being at Chinawhite in April last year, again in a private area.

Switzerland international Alisha Lehmann was crowded on arrival at the night spot (Chinawhite), prompting Rashford to intervene. The two footballers were enjoying nights out in Manchester in April. Though he had never met his fellow footballer, Rashford recognised Lehmann, inviting her into a private area of the club away from the crowds. “Marcus cleared a table and invited her and her friends to join them,” a source at Chinawhite said.
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So yeah, think it's safe to say he's at least fairly regular there.

Saw it said that Rashford had booked out the entire top floor at Thompson's in Belfast too... so I think they're at least aware of the need to keep some things on the down low.
 
Zed is not dead said:
People thinking Rashford would for 30-40m are out of touch with current market valuations.

30m is the price Lois Openda went from Lens to Leipzig last summer.
Whether we like him or not, Rashford usually ends his seasons with around 15-20 G+A. That’s a 70m player minimum
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I think the wages are more of the issue. Not many top clubs want to pay 300K for a forward that's actually a level below elite.
 
Pughnichi said:
I can’t be the only one that finds him completely unrelatable? The state of him and Meekz in that picture is actually laughable to me. Is that what younger folk aspire to be now. FML
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The stuff he wears is utter shite and he looks like a knob, but that's neither here nor there. A lot of footballers and famous people wear daft clothes imo.
But if they're hard working and professional that's at least something the common working man can relate to. We like to see people working hard and chasing their dreams.
But Rashford doesn't even have that anymore. He comes across as another Lingard; cares more for the money and lifestyle and feck the professionalism and work ethic. Why continue to work hard and improve yourself when you've already won the lottery, right?
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
Yeah they definitely keep it more low key. From Laurie Whitwell about the Chinawhite birthday story:



There were other reports about him being at Chinawhite in April last year, again in a private area.



So yeah, think it's safe to say he's at least fairly regular there.

Saw it said that Rashford had booked out the entire top floor at Thompson's in Belfast too... so I think they're at least aware of the need to keep some things on the down low.
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Obviously loves a night out! But again, nothing about booze or other substances. Not that that makes this breach any more acceptable, just that it is possible to look after yourself and still go out to clubs etc.
 
AltiUn said:
I worry that Rashford has far more dressing room power and sway than Sancho.
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Maybe for now but not when Ineos is in power after being ratified. That new CEO bloke Berrada seems a tough cookie
 
Chairman Steve said:
I think they were stories of him regularly travelling back and forth to London from Manchester to see Victoria. Get back to Manchester at 1am and then report to training at 8am.

His performance levels dropped a bit (not as much as Rashford) and that for Ferguson was the ammunition he needed to get rid of the most popular English player at the time and not lose a wink of sleep over it.

So god help Rashford if Fergie was his manager hypothetically.
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I’m going to call bollocks on this.

It might have been the start but from my recollection the only backwards and forwards Beckham did was at the start of their relationship, and that was the late 90s. Beckham has a good few, very, very successful years at the club after he had been doing this.

Like I said, it might have been the start of Fergie keeping an eye on him and thinking he might need replacing in the future but I don’t recall any stories of travelling up and down the country towards the latter part of his United career.

Rashford is another level of unprofessionalism entirely.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
The stuff he wears is utter shite and he looks like a knob, but that's neither here nor there. A lot of footballers and famous people wear daft clothes imo.
But if they're hard working and professional that's at least something the common working man can relate to. We like to see people working hard and chasing their dreams.
But Rashford doesn't even have that anymore. He comes across as another Lingard; cares more for the money and lifestyle and feck the professionalism and work ethic. Why continue to work hard and improve yourself when you've already won the lottery, right?
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I don't care about him dressing like a clown, but all that bling he wears is tacky as feck and makes him come across like a wanker.
 
FreakyJim said:
You can't go to a club, pick up a bug and immediately get sick, there's usually three-four days incubation period. He was probably already sick and symptoms just kicked in that evening.
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Let me introduce you to norovirus. I had to miss United v Leeds at very short notice when Bruno got a hatty, and then was fine the next morning. It has a very short 12-48 hour incubation period and completely wipes you out for a day or two, before you are usually champion again.
 
That interview with ETH couldn't really have been clearer that it's a disciplinary matter. Constant circus
 
Lad is on 300k per week or something equivalent. Poor attitude to go out partying and then not be available for training. He should be dropped for several weeks until he proves in training he is committed to the cause. If he can't be bothered to look after himself then he shouldn't be anywhere near the team, especially as he has been dreadful this season too. Not exactly a Cantona type that can be allowed some leeway.
 
14 pages is pretty impressive. INEOS really have to fix us, man.
 
RedMarcus said:
Lad is on 300k per week or something equivalent. Poor attitude to go out partying and then not be available for training. He should be dropped for several weeks until he proves in training he is committed to the cause. If he can't be bothered to look after himself then he shouldn't be anywhere near the team, especially as he has been dreadful this season too. Not exactly a Cantona type that can be allowed some leeway.
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So a third isolated player we'd be paying the wages of along with Sancho and Greenwood?
 
It's problematic to have one unprofessional player in your team, as soon as they are more it gets real tricky to deal with. Lingard, Sancho, Rashford. I really didn't expect Rashford to be this thick/unprofessional (I think it's the latter), but there you go. It's a shame we broke that new wage structure that was widely reported about 2 minutes after setting that out.
 
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