[GueRed]

Doesn't look like the world class authoritative player he's been hyped up to be does he?
No comical airshots like against Arsenal last Saturday but still another shakey display..

 

[NoPace]

Hopefully he'll look better on the right than on the left. Has he ever played on the left before this year? France always seem to have a left-footer (Umiti, Lenglet, Kimpembe) and Ramos was on the left.

 

[mctrials23]

Unfortunately defending is very much a team sport at the elite level and one defender cannot change a shit defence into a world class one. Its probably the area on the pitch that requires the most communication and organisation to function even remotely well. Hopefully next season when he has better players around him and more protection from the midfield he will look like the player we thought we were signing.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Unfortunately defending is very much a team sport at the elite level and one defender cannot change a shit defence into a world class one. Its probably the area on the pitch that requires the most communication and organisation to function even remotely well. Hopefully next season when he has better players around him and more protection from the midfield he will look like the player we thought we were signing.

Varane would look great with some protection, McTominay is out of position time and again when he should be guarding the defence. Fred is better but small and weak and can be outmuscled through the middle. There is also no little to no pressing from the forwards (apart from Elanga). It makes every defender we have look exposed.

 

[Bestietom]

Don't think he is as good as he was made out to be. Has been caught out in Premiership this season. Hope Ten Hag can get him back to his best form.

 

[romufc]

Its difficult to get form when he gets injured after every other game. We haven't had a chance to form a partnership anywhere on the pitch which has been the reason he has been so bad.

 

[Bestietom]

Its difficult to get form when he gets injured after every other game. We haven't had a chance to form a partnership anywhere on the pitch which has been the reason he has been so bad.

Maybe that's why he was sold. Another injury prone player who will only play 20 games a season at most.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Amazing what Ramos holding your hand throughout your career can do for you

 

[Real Name]

Amazing what Ramos holding your hand throughout your career can do for you

Oh please come of it.

Sure he's been underwhelming but lets not make things out.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Amazing what Ramos holding your hand throughout your career can do for you

One of the best defenders at the World Cup, but alright.

 

[Blood Mage]

He's been good not great. Hopefully shit coaching and persistent injuries are the reason and he's not already in decline. We'll get to judge him properly under ETH, he just needs to stay fit and look after himself now.

 

[Lentwood]

I can't really pinpoint one good game Varane has had for us - but we're so poor defensively as a team that I'm willing to give him a pass this season

 

[romufc]

Maybe that's why he was sold. Another injury prone player who will only play 20 games a season at most.

Right. I love how fans just make stuff up based on no facts.

20/21 - 41 games 31 La liga - Missed 8 games all season 4 with Covid
19/20 - 43 games 32 La Liga games - 0 injuries all season
18/19 - 43 games 32 La Liga - Missed 5 games 5 with Flu
17/18 - 44 games 27 La Liga - Mieed 4 games with Injury

But yeah he was sold because he is injury prone. Probably saw someone on twitter say it and took it as fact because it suits a narrative?

 

[Bestietom]

Right. I love how fans just make stuff up based on no facts.

20/21 - 41 games 31 La liga - Missed 8 games all season 4 with Covid
19/20 - 43 games 32 La Liga games - 0 injuries all season
18/19 - 43 games 32 La Liga - Missed 5 games 5 with Flu
17/18 - 44 games 27 La Liga - Mieed 4 games with Injury

But yeah he was sold because he is injury prone. Probably saw someone on twitter say it and took it as fact because it suits a narrative?

Where are the stats since we bought him. Don't need the stats before this.

 

[JB08]

Amazing what Ramos holding your hand throughout your career can do for you

Did you ever actually watch Ramos? A brilliant player but if there’s one thing he specifically didn’t do, that’s make life easy for his defensive partner

 

[Marwood]

Where are the stats since we bought him. Don't need the stats before this.

You do if you think he was sold due to being injury prone.

 

[Red00012]

Amazing what Ramos holding your hand throughout your career can do for you

 

[phelans shorts]

Right. I love how fans just make stuff up based on no facts.

20/21 - 41 games 31 La liga - Missed 8 games all season 4 with Covid
19/20 - 43 games 32 La Liga games - 0 injuries all season
18/19 - 43 games 32 La Liga - Missed 5 games 5 with Flu
17/18 - 44 games 27 La Liga - Mieed 4 games with Injury

But yeah he was sold because he is injury prone. Probably saw someone on twitter say it and took it as fact because it suits a narrative?

Or maybe Madrid’s medical side were of the opinion that his body was on the edge of breaking down and they spotted a mark to waste their money on him. Even ignoring the injuries he has been, at best, poor this season.

 

[Cassidy]

Or maybe Madrid’s medical side were of the opinion that his body was on the edge of breaking down and they spotted a mark to waste their money on him. Even ignoring the injuries he has been, at best, poor this season.

Or maybe they offered him multiple contracts and he refused.

 

[phelans shorts]

Or maybe they offered him multiple contracts and he refused.

You are aware they can offer contracts they know he’ll never sign, right? It’s quite a common PR tactic. Gets their own fans off their back if things are rocky at the back initially, as they have a fall guy.

 

[Cassidy]

You are aware they can offer contracts they know he’ll never sign, right? It’s quite a common PR tactic. Gets their own fans off their back if things are rocky at the back initially, as they have a fall guy.

Yes they did all that because of some conspiracy you made up in your head. Its clear they wanted to keep him and the player wanted to leave for a few years.

 

[phelans shorts]

Yes they did all that because of some conspiracy you made up in your head. Its clear they wanted to keep him and the player wanted to leave for a few years.

You’re making up a story that they were desperate to keep him, either is just as likely as the other, and watching him play the standard of football he does once a month it’s hard to believe anyone would be desperate to keep him.

 

[Cassidy]

You’re making up a story that they were desperate to keep him, either is just as likely as the other, and watching him play the standard of football he does once a month it’s hard to believe anyone would be desperate to keep him.

No I am not. It was widely reported for the last few years of his time there. The only one making things up is you

 

[phelans shorts]

No I am not. It was widely reported for the last few years of his time there. The only one making things up is you

It was widely reported he was offered contracts. Which fits perfectly with what I said.

Thanks for that.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Wouldn't be shocked if he leaves for a CL club this summer. I bet he can't believe what he's walked into.

feck off with him so.
He's hardly been a rock at the back...WHEN he isnt unavailable

 

[McGrathsipan]

I feel like we've had major issues with centre backs getting injured for as long as I can remember.

Even when Fergie was here, even if Rio and Vidic were largely ok (still had their issues), the lads behind them were always going down.

We can all remember playing Carrick and Fletcher back there in big games.

It certainly seems like something we need to be looking at.

Agree.

And midfield
And forwards
And fullback

 

[Leftback99]

feck off with him so.
He's hardly been a rock at the back...WHEN he isnt unavailable

Yeah it's not like we'd miss him. He's been far from the Van Dijk like figure many talked like we were getting.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

feck off with him so.
He's hardly been a rock at the back...WHEN he isnt unavailable

I don't place the blame on him for us looking Shakey tbh. He's a proven world class player.

Shaw/Telles, Maguire, AWB/Dalot and Fred, Matic and Mctominay on the other hand are definitely not.

He's never stood a chance. We are a team of average PL players and wonder why we are struggling. The recruitment has been woeful.

 

[McGrathsipan]

I don't place the blame on him for us looking Shakey tbh. He's a proven world class player.

Shaw/Telles, Maguire, AWB/Dalot and Fred, Matic and Mctominay on the other hand are definitely not.

He's never stood a chance. We are a team of average PL players and wonder why we are struggling. The recruitment has been woeful.

Wouldn't blame him myself and in theory you'd have to give the likes of him the benefit of the doubt playing with some truly brutal colleagues

That said his injury record worries me and I'm not sure we'll ever see the best of him

 

[Bestietom]

You do if you think he was sold due to being injury prone.

The Premiership is a more Physical game and we will see how many games a season he plays here.

 

[Bebestation]

Meh.

Varane has been a dissapointment. If people make excuses for him then the some of the team deserve it too.

 

[Marwood]

The Premiership is a more Physical game and we will see how many games a season he plays here.

Yeah maybe but your thinking he was sold because he's injury prone still isn't true.

Nothing wrong with his appearances before moving here.

 

[Beachryan]

He's not that old, new to the league and playing in a dysfunctional team. Won't be judging him just yet. Anyone who has watched him over the last decade knows he's elite.

 

[Tavern in the town]

He's not that old, new to the league and playing in a dysfunctional team. Won't be judging him just yet. Anyone who has watched him over the last decade knows he's elite.

I’ve watched him a fair bit during his career and I’ve always thought he was a little overrated. He’s a pretty good defender but he’s always been more of a secondary centre back (for want of a better term), basically the guy next to the defensive leader who’s actually the top centre half. A bit like Joe Gomez or Matip at Liverpool. Varane often looked a little lost without Ramos at Madrid.

 

[Bebestation]

He's not that old, new to the league and playing in a dysfunctional team. Won't be judging him just yet. Anyone who has watched him over the last decade knows he's elite.

Does Maguire get this support?

He was good last season wasn't he? and now plays in a completely dysfunctional team?

 

[VanDeBank]

Our biggest problem is our misuse of Varane. He's been our agressive CB, often pushing up to press players in midfield. He's at his best playing the spare man, but that's usually Lindelof or Maguire for us.

You don't sign Varane and ask him to play like Ramos. *sigh*.

Or maybe Madrid’s medical side were of the opinion that his body was on the edge of breaking down and they spotted a mark to waste their money on him. Even ignoring the injuries he has been, at best, poor this season.

No he hasn't, he's been good overall.

 

[phelans shorts]

No he hasn't, he's been good overall.

He absolutely hasn’t. If that’s what counts for good then standards are in the basement.

 

[lsd]

Hopefully he will be our captain next season.

 

[Tavern in the town]

He absolutely hasn’t. If that’s what counts for good then standards are in the basement.

It’s like people are afraid to say he’s been shite because he’s Raphael Varane, World Cup and Champions League winner. If everyone judged him by the standards we do Maguire and Lindelof it’s hard to see how he’s been anything other than shite.

 

[MadDogg]

Does Maguire get this support?

He was good last season wasn't he? and now plays in a completely dysfunctional team?

Maguire has had half a season of particularly good form in his three seasons here. Meanwhile he was absolutely terrible for the first few months of that same season, and has again been absolutely terrible for most of this entire season.

If after three seasons Varane has a similar record I expect he'll be getting the same abuse.