Rangnick's January Window

It’s not often you’d say you’d rather a few outgoings then incomings but here we are
 
Our football players don't want to run but we're not signing any more players...

We have alot of chocolate teapots so let's not sign any replacements.

Fantastic. Football Heritage.
 
I don't know what you lot think a signing in January will do to fix the main issue at the moment which is the players basically putting in the square route of FA effort. A new arrival is more likely to just get absorbed into the current malaise than they are to magically transform us into a far better side.

If we were doing something/anything different and it wasn't working due to a glaring hole in the team then I would say go for it but we aren't. We are suffering primarily at the moment from having a toxic bunch of players who would rather sulk that put in the effort to adapt to a new manager.

Buying more players at this point is like chucking a big log onto the dying embers of a fire and hoping that it magically turns into a roaring blaze again.

Cut out the rotten parts of this team and replace them. Thats not happening in January.
 
mctrials23 said:
I don't know what you lot think a signing in January will do to fix the main issue at the moment which is the players basically putting in the square route of FA effort. A new arrival is more likely to just get absorbed into the current malaise than they are to magically transform us into a far better side.

If we were doing something/anything different and it wasn't working due to a glaring hole in the team then I would say go for it but we aren't. We are suffering primarily at the moment from having a toxic bunch of players who would rather sulk that put in the effort to adapt to a new manager.

Buying more players at this point is like chucking a big log onto the dying embers of a fire and hoping that it magically turns into a roaring blaze again.

Cut out the rotten parts of this team and replace them. Thats not happening in January.
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I do get that. But the attitude/commitment issue is not the only problem we have. There is a huge structural issue with the squad, which is a glaring lack of defensive midfield quality and quantity. Even with the current issues, adding a good, dynamic DM into the team would give us a better chance of getting points in the board.

Also, we are two injuries away from literally not having enough specialist midfielders to put on the pitch.
 
January is typically a bleak month anyway, at least in the Northern Hemisphere.
 
mctrials23 said:
I don't know what you lot think a signing in January will do to fix the main issue at the moment which is the players basically putting in the square route of FA effort. A new arrival is more likely to just get absorbed into the current malaise than they are to magically transform us into a far better side.

If we were doing something/anything different and it wasn't working due to a glaring hole in the team then I would say go for it but we aren't. We are suffering primarily at the moment from having a toxic bunch of players who would rather sulk that put in the effort to adapt to a new manager.

Buying more players at this point is like chucking a big log onto the dying embers of a fire and hoping that it magically turns into a roaring blaze again.

Cut out the rotten parts of this team and replace them. Thats not happening in January.
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It's a pretty grim situation, I think it might well be the worst in the 40 years I've supported.

How does everyone feel about clubs having a B team or feeder?

To me this situation would be handled better, players get more showing and more game time.

Publicity and PR would be great from a commercial perspective.

Injury problems could be helped if there was a system like this.

What is the reason it's not allowed?
 
I know it is only half way through this window but you would've thought that if we were going to sign someone this window we would've already done it, especially after the dire Wolves result & performance in our first game of 2022, right?
 
Judas said:
Are we seriously not going to buy anyone :lol: :nervous:
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Looks like that.

Rangnick looks more and more like a puppet with little actual power. What he has done in the past, when he was backed by the excellent RedBull sports franchise is likely not what we will see when our horrible board is who he is dealing with
 
AndySmith1990 said:
Why would we buy anyone if there's no one available for the right price?
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There is always somebody available, if you consider how many footballers and teams there are out there, that you could target for potential, especially when you are modern-day United sitting on a pile of trash footballers who get their asses kicked by Wolves and anybody else showing effort
 
While not strictly about transfers, I believe that this is relevant. I think that over the past few years, we have played our best football with Matic and Pogba in midfield. The consensus seems to be that Matic is too old, while he is younger than both Ronaldo and Cavani. I'd say that Matic has been our best CDM over the past two years, including games this year. He may not be able to play every game, but he does an excellent job of quarterbacking the midfield in a way that no one else on the team can do. He calms the play. Rather than making a rash transfer decision in January, I'd prefer to play Matic more (perhaps with McTominay, who has been playing better under Rangnick going forward), than being stuck with an average CDM for the foreseeable future.
 
RashyGiggsy said:
While not strictly about transfers, I believe that this is relevant. I think that over the past few years, we have played our best football with Matic and Pogba in midfield. The consensus seems to be that Matic is too old, while he is younger than both Ronaldo and Cavani. I'd say that Matic has been our best CDM over the past two years, including games this year. He may not be able to play every game, but he does an excellent job of quarterbacking the midfield in a way that no one else on the team can do. He calms the play. Rather than making a rash transfer decision in January, I'd prefer to play Matic more (perhaps with McTominay, who has been playing better under Rangnick going forward), than being stuck with an average CDM for the foreseeable future.
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Think we need Matic as a backup because haven't got anyone else in this squad that can do his role currently and that's the issue for me
 
Let’s be honest most burgeoning players would be better off moving to a club that actually nurtures its footballers with a strong support network and management structure.

We have neither.

We have a capable interim manager in RR who is slowly and painfully realising that he doesn’t have the support of the higher ups in any purposeful footballing sense.

I can’t wait till our club is sold. But I won’t hold my breath either.
 
We need 2 central midfielders. A CDM and a CM.

If Zakaria is going for around £5-8m.

We need another. Can't be spending only £5m or so during such a disastrous start to the season.

Tchouameni too, please. Would be partial to Neves too.

Need to aggressively start offloading dead wood too - Bailly, Mata, AWB, Martial and Lingard.
 
Our silence in the ongoing transfer market gives us another tip on the level of unseriousness and incompetence on the side of the board.

For a club with a very weak central midfield, you will expect us to be concluding a midfielder deal by now, we will keep dragging legs till the night the window will end where we will desperately pay for another "Fellaini"
 
It's more of who he can ship out than bring in. I'd like Jesse ,VDB Both to go and throw some cash now at a CM we need. Don't need wingers or strikers yet, summer window we should go for them.
 
Haven't been keeping up with the window this year, we don't seem to be linked with anyone? Other than perhaps Dembele?
 
Motorman said:
Haven't been keeping up with the window this year, we don't seem to be linked with anyone? Other than perhaps Dembele?
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Looks like the club is preparing for the summer (and a new manager) rather than focussing on trying to salvage this season - slimmed down squad and a massively reduced wage bill should give the new manager some scope to build his own side.

It's not a bad policy, although I do think we should have signed a midfield player who can defend AND pass the ball - all of our current midfield options can only do one or the other, which is somewhat limiting.
 
Infra-red said:
Looks like the club is preparing for the summer (and a new manager) rather than focussing on trying to salvage this season - slimmed down squad and a massively reduced wage bill should give the new manager some scope to build his own side.

It's not a bad policy, although I do think we should have signed a midfield player who can defend AND pass the ball - all of our current midfield options can only do one or the other, which is somewhat limiting.
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We probably have someone lined up for the summer for that DM position and with Garner coming in back from loan, we might actually be alright in the DM position for once.
 
Spurs bringing in 2 good players from Juve to keep Conte happy, we are not granting one wish fron=m Ralf for a CM in this window.

We could have a better option to finish in top-4 with a proper DM
 
sp_107 said:
Spurs bringing in 2 good players from Juve to keep Conte happy, we are not granting one wish fron=m Ralf for a CM in this window.

We could have a better option to finish in top-4 with a proper DM
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Looks like Liverpool have signed a fairly decent player too.
 
sp_107 said:
Spurs bringing in 2 good players from Juve to keep Conte happy, we are not granting one wish fron=m Ralf for a CM in this window.

We could have a better option to finish in top-4 with a proper DM
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Yeah and March looks horrific. How the hell they can’t see we need reinforcements I’ll never know. Also, we have potentially 10 players leaving in the summer. Do you trust this board to replace them? Never mind the better fullbacks we need and CDM, plus more than likely a striker. Man I hope our kids are as good as some think. Looking forward to seeing Hannibal at least. And how Donny and martial do on loan. Always hoped we have kept Martial. Could have been a real asset. Especially now.

Fun times.
 
Infra-red said:
Looks like the club is preparing for the summer (and a new manager) rather than focussing on trying to salvage this season - slimmed down squad and a massively reduced wage bill should give the new manager some scope to build his own side.

It's not a bad policy, although I do think we should have signed a midfield player who can defend AND pass the ball - all of our current midfield options can only do one or the other, which is somewhat limiting.
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Agree with all this. That looks like the obviously route they are taking.

But I also would like to have had a DM come in who can receive the ball under pressure and turn defence to attack.
 
I agree with the notion not to sign a player just for the sake of it. But we are trimming this squad a lot and the newest incident hasn't helped us a lot.
 
Looks like it's either a realy late offer going in for a CM. Or were just shipping out players that's surplus . Hope we get a CM in at least
 
Not signing Zakaria on the cheap as a backup to McFred seems very stupid to me. An injury to McFred and we will only have Matic as backup and he can't play twice a week.
 
Caesar2290 said:
We probably have someone lined up for the summer for that DM position and with Garner coming in back from loan, we might actually be alright in the DM position for once.
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Sure, but would it really have hurt us to loan an actual DM in the meantime? We see how much better the team ticks with Matic in the side (before his legs go).
 
Caesar2290 said:
We probably have someone lined up for the summer for that DM position and with Garner coming in back from loan, we might actually be alright in the DM position for once.
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And do you think Rice or someone else of that level are going to be coming to us when we can't give them Champions League? Maybe, if we give them astronomical wages to entice them away from Chelsea, etc. And therein lies our problem. Rinse and repeat. If you never learn from your mistakes, you're doomed to repeat them. And we do it again and again. I feel like we're the laziest club around. Constantly hiding behind excuses because we can't be bothered to get off our asses and actually do something.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Not signing Zakaria on the cheap as a backup to McFred seems very stupid to me. An injury to McFred and we will only have Matic as backup and he can't play twice a week.
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Yup, idiotic, unless we have our eyes on another mid in the last-minute window. Otherwise, I think it's dumb as f. Such a tiny risk for that amount. We took a 15m punt on Dan James for christ's sake and still made a profit on him. 5m euros / 8m with bonuses—an absolute bargain. Even if all it did was give Fred and McTominay some time to rest, it would've been worth it. Right now, we're going into one of the worst Marches on record, an injury or two away from disaster. And in our Summer window we're gonna need about 5 players.
 
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