Ralph Hasenhüttl
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They might not have been at their best today, but still carried a threat and gave us a big scare.
They were without their equivalent of Jamie Vardy in Danny Ings, and were missing Redmond who is a key player for them.
Salisu, their new CB signing, hasn't been able to play a minute so far this season.
Unlike United, they don't have a squad with 2 players for most positions. The drop off from Ings to Adams to Long is staggering in comparison with United who boast Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and Cavani as strikers and wide forwards. We can carry some injuries. In fact, Pogba can't even get into our side most weeks! They can't carry an injury to someone like Ings.
If you can't see the impressive work that these types of managers achieve with inferior squads, smaller budgets and less overall resources, then that's on you.
Southampton finishing 8th would be a great season for them. It's the highest finish possible with that squad. Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs, United, Leicester, Arsenal, Everton, Wolves and West Ham all have a better squad than Southampton. You could argue Leeds as well. Yet there they sit in 5th place.
I agree with all of the above posters.
My post wasn't actually critical of him. Read it again. It was critical of the many, many posters we see on here latching on to the latest name and using them in their arguments when they probably don't even watch their sides.
Im generally pro most managers. Its an incredibly tough job. I said he wasn't underachieving and he isn't, but he also isnt doing anything special there. They finished 11th last year, and they may well improve that by a position or two this year. Thats progress. I dont expect him to be challenging for top 4, but at the same time I also don't think he should be at United over Ole.
Can taste the salt.His celebrations for their goals yesterday sort of grates me. Even the draw at Old Trafford last season looked like he won the world cup after the final whistle
3-2 flattered them, they really weren’t that tough an opponent at all.
This.
They didn't deserve to be 2 goals up but that's what happens when you take advantage of your set pieces and kick the shit out of your opposition.
They're a well organised team but it's easy to be that when you play 1 game every 7 days.
Not sure if its his directive or just cnut players like Romeu, but his team is dirty as feck. Was the exact same story last season. I remember thinking to myself "gee these guys are fouling constantly arent they"
Saw this yesterday, 2-0 down at half time away from home, win 2-3 with a 92 minute winner.
What does he expect? The players to go in clapping each other on the back quietly saying “bravo old chum, bravo, terrific result out there”.
Stupid fecking comment from him. He's obviously devastated they couldn't get a 2-0 halftime lead over the line
2 goals from 0.46 xG. Quality difference or not he didn't create a single meaningful chance from open play. Nor did Nagelsmann when we played Liepzig. I don't think it's anything to do with the quality of managers I just think we've adapated our game against teams who press like maniacs and have found a way to counter the style.
Mourinho would have told United to move the volume down, poor form from Hasenhuttl.
Mourinho would've sent in a marauding, bare-chested Rojo.
Hardly schooled him. It’s not like we won 5-0 and dominated the ball. And we should be expected to beat Southampton.
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Agreed.
Sou had two mid against like 4 of us while both their wingers hadn't been much good in helping their central mid.
I was of that thought watching the game as well. He should have taken his #17 or #12 off, move Walcott back there and brought a DM on to deal with Bruno.
We missed 2 asbolute sitters and dominated from start to finish. Hence why the xG was 0.46 vs 3.01. 2 goals massively flattered Southampton, they didn't really even deserve 1 goal let alone 2.
Exactly - the draw at OT especially. Wierdly salty comment from him.
Yeah 3-2 was flattering scoreline, they barely created a chance from open play. They were threat from set pieces, almost all of them but from open play they didn't have single clear cut chance.
What's impressive about him is that he gets his teams playing his brand of football in a short frame of time whether that be at Ingolstadt, RB Leipzig and now at Southampton. High tempo, fast transitions with his players knowing their roles positionally very well with and without the ball. He's a front foot coach and plays a proactive brand of football even with his limited squad at Soton currently, and that to me is impressive.
Does Hasenhuttl have many well coached 'attacking patterns of play' which led to beautiful intricate goal chances? It doesn't look like his team knows what its doing in attack apart from having Ward Prowse take all the set pieces.
I don't get what the praise is about.
I don't get what the praise is about.
Yeah Romeu especially, that idiot fancies himself and is a dirty player, endangers a player at least once a game from what I’ve see of him.
He gets praised here because he’s not Ole.
A few on the caf get a raging boner over anything that resembles pressing football.
Oh, the good old team performance evaluation tiers:
Good > The opposition celebrated their win with enthusiasm > Poor
We’re a bit better equipped to deal with that now. I know people like to pretend these games are 100% determined by the manager lately, but we’ve recruited a lot more creativity and technical ability into the squad since January. Previously our players would panic under pressure somewhat.
The only impressive thing about Hasenhuttl is that he stopped Southampton sinking like a rock after losing 9-0.
His team is dirty. Romeu's job seems to be to kick the most offensive player on the opposition side early, to try to stop them getting any momentum. After that they just try to get in your face. There's nothing particularly impressive about their football. Its a level up from Wimbledon in 1990s. Deny Southampton set pieces and turnovers high up and they're a nothing team.
I took his comments there to be positive towards his players and supporters, rather than negative to us which the people in here seem to be taking it.
Are you surprised? I agree with you by the way..
We were the better team yesterday and deserved to win in the end. We were very wasteful, they weren't.
extremely lucky to be 2-0 up and still lost
Exactly. You just see if he has the capability to take us forward. People just need a reason to come here and slate a manager who is one of the probable candidates who could replace ours. Just an attempt to undermine his efforts.
Going by the comments, it's pretty laughable. All he done was make them solid, all he does is high press, all he does is dependent on JWP, all he does is dirty game. What the feck were you expecting against a big side like us? They have adams and Walcott as forwards. Djenepo and Armstrong as attacking midfielders. That's championship material. I have been telling this since that Leicester game. A record with this Southampton team means nothing.
They went super negative in the second half, and got found out, they could not hold us off. We've done the same quite often the last few seasons. He should have just gone for the third.
He tried that against Spurs and was hit for 5. They just don't have the quality .
Its incredibly effective if you pull it off right, but it also includes a lot of snide tactical fouls and if you have players who are hotheaded, some real shithousing
It also a massive double standard here with journos and punits, one team playing like that has "graft" and "desire" while another one is "dirty" and "nasty" while in reality there is very little separating them
Soton have done well this year, but i dont find their brand of football that appealing really
It's funny how fans come here after a last minute win to say Ole schooled him. It's the equivalent of celebrating Ole driving a Lamborghini and racing Hasenhuttl in a Ford Focus - one team is the second or third most expensive in the league with regular spending over the 200m mark a season, the other is made up of PL rejects from bigger clubs, Championship signings, low quality loans and constantly loses their best players to bigger, richer clubs. There is honestly no comparison in terms of squad quality and people are reacting like we just smashed one of the top teams in the league 4-0. Expectations simply have to be higher.
And yet it was a free transfer that won the game!!
I really admire hasenhuttl, he's doing a very good job at Southampton, but he didn't do anything to change the tide yesterday, he stuck to the same thing as he normally does, which is bringing on Long and going more direct.
It didn't work, yet Ole made swift decisions which affected and changed the game for the better.
Yeah, you can argue that we brought on Cavani and Southampton brought on Long, but by your logic Long cost £13 million pounds more than Cavani, and so should be the better player!
Currently Southampton are one of the top teams in the league. They are above United in the league for a reason... they've won more points than us and most of the other teams. They drew with Chelsea at the Bridge for example.
Come on this is a bit too much.
We have better quality than them but not like a Lambor against a Ford. They had a good midfield and as I said before the match, I really like Fred and McT but I'd take Ward Prowse and Romue over both in a heart beat.
In term of tactic this match, Hassehult should have taken one of their forward off and brought a midfielder on. Especially after 2-1. They were too open in the second half and definitely would have done better with some reinforcement in the midfield.
He doesn't have players of the technical quality to play the football he wants to play against teams that have superior quality. The players you mentioned above are nowhere near good enough to impose their game on superior players but Hassenhuttl has still implemented his style on the team which has seen Soton maintain a level of performance which exceeds their true level. And from my recollection he gets his ideas across to his team(s) in a very short space of time which I find to be a impressive trait in him as a coach.
Ole talks about high pressure football and how he'd like to play with a high line like Jurgen etc. But in nearly two years in the job he's failed to that. Compare that to Hassenhuttl who not only got Southampton playing a high pressure game but also had Ingolstadt and RB Leipzig playing the same way in a short space of time. The truth is that Hassenhuttl has done at Southampton what Ole wanted to do at United and has failed thus far and the Austrian has done it with a small budget.
I love Ole because he was a great servant to the club and I do believe he deeply cares about the club. But I do have doubts about him in the long term and my allegiance will always be towards the club first before any employee whether that be the manager or the players. Manchester United comes first and I hope Ole comes good but if he doesn't like I suspect then I hope we show a ruthlessness and bring in someone to replace him for the good of the club.
This, I hate teams like this and watching them is a chore. Nothing special about this manager either, if your constant fouling is ignored, of course they will look like a solid unit. Such a dirty team, whether that is down to the players or the manager who knows. They created almost nothing out of open play, and they had individual quality of Ward Prowse's delivery as the only threat all game.