Ralf Rangnick

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Invictus said:
Nice! You could argue that Rangnick is without exception the best appointment we can make for the Director of Football position (over Campos or Paratici or Webber), and the long wait would have been totally worth it. Not only because he is a former coach and is known as The Professor in German football (which gives him unique insight into the game vis-à-vis pure scouts that rose through the ranks) and influences the playing staff at the ground level but also: he has extensive experience with data analytics in recent years and is an ideology driven football person so his model of operation (Kapital, Kompetenz and Konzept) would create a viable long-term blueprint for United, once it's modified per the club's needs and seeps through the structure. A large percentage of the credit for the meteoric rise of the Red Bull organisation can be appropriated to him because he was the master puppeteer tugging the strings...

https://spielverlagerung.com/2017/01/02/beyond-the-business-model-rb-leipzigs-football-philosophy/

And he's also versed with coaches or scouting staff that should interest United in the future if things go south with the current administration: most prominently Nagelsmann, Rose, Mitchell, Marić. Would be more influential and significant than any player signing we can realistically make, honestly — and really set a standard of modernization/development for the next 5-6-7 year cycle.
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Awesome Post!

For the first time my yearly muppet signing won't be a player :drool:
 
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Invictus said:
Nice! You could argue that Rangnick is without exception the best appointment we can make for the Director of Football position (over Campos or Paratici or Webber), and the long wait would have been totally worth it. Not only because he is a former coach and is known as The Professor in German football (which gives him unique insight into the game vis-à-vis pure scouts that rose through the ranks) and influences the playing staff at the ground level but also: he has extensive experience with data analytics in recent years and is an ideology driven football person so his model of operation (Kapital, Kompetenz and Konzept) would create a viable long-term blueprint for United, once it's modified per the club's needs and seeps through the structure. A large percentage of the credit for the meteoric rise of the Red Bull organisation can be appropriated to him because he was the master puppeteer tugging the strings...

https://spielverlagerung.com/2017/01/02/beyond-the-business-model-rb-leipzigs-football-philosophy/

And he's also versed with coaches or scouting staff that should interest United in the future if things go south with the current administration: most prominently Nagelsmann, Rose, Mitchell, Marić. Would be more influential and significant than any player signing we can realistically make, honestly — and really set a standard of modernization/development for the next 5-6-7 year cycle.
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So he was DoF for Leipzig and also for Salzburg at the same time between 2012-2015?
 
roonster09 said:
So he was DoF for Leipzig and also for Salzburg at the same time between 2012-2015?
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Yes! Sporting Director of both clubs under the same overall organisation from 2012-2015 (when he decided to concentrate on the Leipzig project as the head coach)...
Leipzig had a good idea of what they were getting when Rangnick was appointed sporting director of both the Saxony upstarts and sister club, Salzburg, in June 2012. He had already guided Schalke to a runners-up finish in the 2004/05 Bundesliga, and taken Hoffenheim from the 3. Liga to the Bundesliga - laying the foundations for the team that future Leipzig successor Julian Nagelsmann steered into the UEFA Champions League in 2018.
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https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bunde...ach-sporting-director-red-bull-franchise-5099
 
izec said:
The key here is Woodward wont give up the amount of responsibility and autonomy Rangnick would want. We will look for a more specific and smaller role, someone that wont challenge Woody
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Well according to Woodwards latest interview this isn't a issue.

Hopefully he puts his money where his mouth is.
 
Racist Ralf would be a good choice, no doubt. We just have to keep him away from all media responsibilities and not let him undermine the manager. He has a tendency of attempting to overshadow managers before so we will need Woodward to keep him in check.

From a footballing perspective, he is really good and has scouted really good talent for RB like Keita, Mane, Werner etc.
 
Invictus said:
Nice! You could argue that Rangnick is without exception the best appointment we can make for the Director of Football position (over Campos or Paratici or Webber), and the long wait would have been totally worth it. Not only because he is a former coach and is known as The Professor in German football (which gives him unique insight into the game vis-à-vis pure scouts that rose through the ranks) and influences the playing staff at the ground level but also: he has extensive experience with data analytics in recent years and is an ideology driven football person so his model of operation (Kapital, Kompetenz and Konzept) would create a viable long-term blueprint for United, once it's modified per the club's needs and seeps through the structure. A large percentage of the credit for the meteoric rise of the Red Bull organisation can be appropriated to him because he was the master puppeteer tugging the strings...

https://spielverlagerung.com/2017/01/02/beyond-the-business-model-rb-leipzigs-football-philosophy/

And he's also versed with coaches or scouting staff that should interest United in the future if things go south with the current administration: most prominently Nagelsmann, Rose, Mitchell, Marić. Would be more influential and significant than any player signing we can realistically make, honestly — and really set a standard of modernization/development for the next 5-6-7 year cycle.
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Do you think he would be better to Darren Fletcher though?
 
ivaldo said:
What we need most is someone who can lay the foundations for the position, and a structure that will last for years to come. For that we need experience, which is why when names like VDS are thrown about they don't make any sense. Most of these guys have been successful going in with a functional system already in place. They've never had to build one from the ground up.
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That does make sense in a way, but I have no faith of that being achieved under Woody - if he does give up that power then great, if not then will this guy be happy to toe the party line?

Not really replying to the rest as Ivaldo raised a good point, except @Rozay - try following forum rules and not insult a poster, try making a point like a grown up.
 
Invictus said:
Nice! You could argue that Rangnick is without exception the best appointment we can make for the Director of Football position (over Campos or Paratici or Webber), and the long wait would have been totally worth it. Not only because he is a former coach and is known as The Professor in German football (which gives him unique insight into the game vis-à-vis pure scouts that rose through the ranks) and influences the playing staff at the ground level but also: he has extensive experience with data analytics in recent years and is an ideology driven football person so his model of operation (Kapital, Kompetenz and Konzept) would create a viable long-term blueprint for United, once it's modified per the club's needs and seeps through the structure. A large percentage of the credit for the meteoric rise of the Red Bull organisation can be appropriated to him because he was the master puppeteer tugging the strings...

https://spielverlagerung.com/2017/01/02/beyond-the-business-model-rb-leipzigs-football-philosophy/

And he's also versed with coaches or scouting staff that should interest United in the future if things go south with the current administration: most prominently Nagelsmann, Rose, Mitchell, Marić. Would be more influential and significant than any player signing we can realistically make, honestly — and really set a standard of modernization/development for the next 5-6-7 year cycle.
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Sounds like he is brilliant at his job. So I'm not getting my hopes up on this one.
 
He would without doubt be a excellent candidate for the role and his work at RB Leipzig is there for all to see. He's definitely a man with a vision, who if given the responsibility could have a very positive effect on the footballing side. Paul Mitchell could also potentially follow him due to the duo having a close working relationship at RB Leipzig. And most importantly he would pave the way for someone like Nagelsmann or Rose to join us in the future, similar to what City did with Tixi and Sorriano which eventually saw the arrival of Guardiola.
 
According to Ronan Murphy he said that Man Utd are looking at former RB Leipzig head coach Ralf Rangnick as a potential replacement for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, according to Sport Bild. Would be a much better fit than OGS, as he knows the business side of football as well as being a successful coach.
 
PyroMan said:
Racist Ralf would be a good choice, no doubt. We just have to keep him away from all media responsibilities and not let him undermine the manager. He has a tendency of attempting to overshadow managers before so we will need Woodward to keep him in check.

From a footballing perspective, he is really good and has scouted really good talent for RB like Keita, Mane, Werner etc.
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Tell me more.
 
Madzik_92 said:
According to Ronan Murphy he said that Man Utd are looking at former RB Leipzig head coach Ralf Rangnick as a potential replacement for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, according to Sport Bild. Would be a much better fit than OGS, as he knows the business side of football as well as being a successful coach.
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He would be an upgrade over Ole
 
Madzik_92 said:
According to Ronan Murphy he said that Man Utd are looking at former RB Leipzig head coach Ralf Rangnick as a potential replacement for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, according to Sport Bild. Would be a much better fit than OGS, as he knows the business side of football as well as being a successful coach.
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Never heard of Ronan Murphy . Is he Thanos sidekick?
 
Looks exactly the kind of appointment we would never make. If our board and executive were sane enough, we wouldn't be where we are right now.
 
Would be absolutely perfect, and possibly a precursor to bringing in a Rose / Nagelsmann later down the line like City did for Guardiola with that fella (Bergistan?). Assuming Ole doesn't turn it around that is.
 
Madzik_92 said:
According to Ronan Murphy he said that Man Utd are looking at former RB Leipzig head coach Ralf Rangnick as a potential replacement for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, according to Sport Bild. Would be a much better fit than OGS, as he knows the business side of football as well as being a successful coach.
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This actually makes sense as United have been reluctant to move away from the current structure. Recent reports saying the manager has the final say at United, bringing in a manager who is experienced as both a manager and dof may not be such a bad idea.
 
Makes too much sense and therefore you just know it won't happen.
 
PyroMan said:
Racist Ralf would be a good choice, no doubt. We just have to keep him away from all media responsibilities and not let him undermine the manager. He has a tendency of attempting to overshadow managers before so we will need Woodward to keep him in check.

From a footballing perspective, he is really good and has scouted really good talent for RB like Keita, Mane, Werner etc.
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Well he's a pretty good manager himself so wouldn't mind him taking the role if needs be :D
 
Yeah he seems great and all but does he have a list of 804 right backs?

If not then I'm not interested.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
Yeah he seems great and all but does he have a list of 804 right backs?

If not then I'm not interested.
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I heard that he wasn’t the manager who discovered Maguire while he was playing at Leicester. So I share your views
 
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Not convinced we need a DoF and even if we do get one I hope we can do a lot better than Rangnick.
 
Manchester United making a sensible decision that improves the structure of the football club?

You must be joking....:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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