Great article, thanks for sharing. Really positive stuff. Can't wait for him to get started.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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Great article, thanks for sharing. Really positive stuff. Can't wait for him to get started.
When he replaced Hasenhuttl as RBL manager, he improved their defense the most.
They went from conceding 53 goals to just 29, he also seems obsessed with 4-2-2-2 or variations of it.
They went from conceding 53 goals to just 29, he also seems obsessed with 4-2-2-2 or variations of it.
Hope the players enjoyed their holiday camp with Ole, they’re about to get a a rocket up their ass and put to work.
I really wish he was taking over the team on Sunday, as we'll have to endure another week of treating him as some footballing deity on here. The fawning over him is getting a bit excessive now and you would think it's the second coming of SAF the way some are acting.
The summer we signed LVG it was the same. We had endless threads about his philosophy, tactical impact on the game and the entertaining football we were about to witness having just signed ADM and Falcao etc. He ended up having the most boring United side ever watched.
I say this to say, just wait to see what we actually do on the pitch. I would understand if we hired Pep, Klopp or Tuchel but we're hiring someone whose never even coached a top side before, has no experience of the PL and hasn't even coached a side in 2.5 years.
The summer we signed LVG it was the same. We had endless threads about his philosophy, tactical impact on the game and the entertaining football we were about to witness having just signed ADM and Falcao etc. He ended up having the most boring United side ever watched.
I say this to say, just wait to see what we actually do on the pitch. I would understand if we hired Pep, Klopp or Tuchel but we're hiring someone whose never even coached a top side before, has no experience of the PL and hasn't even coached a side in 2.5 years.
Yeah because getting annoyed by people getting excited over a prospective coach on a football forum is a serious issue these days..
Yeah, but I was fully expecting fecking Rodgers or Southgate, so I'll allow myself to be happy thanks.
RR is a very good coach, but he is the better DoF.
AM: Fernandes, Sancho, VdB, Pogba
8s: Fred, McT
6: Matic
RR system needs workers, fighters, who run for the ball. Matic is not the perfect player for RR.
Against weaker teams, Pogba could play an offensive 8. But against elite teams we need more defence.
Maybe a 4 4 2 diamond would work.
Fernandes
VdB Sancho
McT
4-2-2-2 would be nice but do we have the right midfielders?
AM: Fernandes, Sancho, VdB, Pogba
8s: Fred, McT
6: Matic
RR system needs workers, fighters, who run for the ball. Matic is not the perfect player for RR.
Against weaker teams, Pogba could play an offensive 8. But against elite teams we need more defence.
Maybe a 4 4 2 diamond would work.
Fernandes
VdB Sancho
McT
I missed the part where I said this was a serious issue.
4-2-2-2 could work well for us on paper. The problem with literally any formation for us is that it would be easily improved with a better DM/CM and RB.
Not gonna lie, this feels like the LVG appointment. Radical changes in the training regime, very direct personality etc but possibly a bit outdated. Atleast we finally went for a German, even though we might be a bit too late to the party - kinda like signing Spanish internationals in 2014.
Yeah I’ve got the LVG vibe as well, but form the sounds of it the style will be very different.
As interims go though, I’m feeling it’s the best sort of move we could have made.
That's what makes me think that that report is bullshit. Rangnick has said countless times that he likes to be involved in all aspects of the club, and clearly he will have negotiated that with United. To then suddenly turn around and become full time manager, after already setting up an advisor position, doesn't make sense. Just screams of journalists who have no idea what's going on trying to stay relevant.
If he is what everyone is claiming he is then I think we would hit ground pretty quick. Our squad is not only good but also has many options for him. I wish we bloody get going because it’s time for some payback. I won’t forget the level of mocking we had to endure as a club and as fans these past 1-2 months and I want retribution.
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I hope he does well, then I can call him RalfRed The Great
Quite a lazy comparison, that LVG bit, the Spanish players bit pretty random illustration of what you already said of something being outdated. What top manager has a lax approach to his training regime? I think what we've seen at United is a pretty significant rise in player power, in a culture of entitlement that starts at the top. A successful team will have to be that, a team. Him being a direct personality can imply anything, but if you know of successful opposites, feel free to share examples. For the record, he's described very positively as a man manager.
I would say a few things in response:
1. We have a much better squad now than under LVG.
2. We were so poorly coached by Ole that anyone who is semi-competent would improve us and Rangnick is quite a bit better than that.
3. We are going to aggressively press like never before which will be incredibly exciting and nothing like LVG.
He has said he doesn't believe in a little bit of pressing, either you aggressively press or you don't. We may get done on the counter and by balls over the top but the days of weak, passive home performances are a thing of the past.
Teams will come to Old Trafford and get suffocated under the pressure of our press.
It truly is the dawn of a new era.
It may not lead to trophies but it will be a lot more fun than hoping the likes of Pogba, Bruno and Rashford etc. come up with a bit of magic to win games.
I really like everything I hear this guy say. He gets it.
Yes because God forbid United fans be happy and optimistic.
Jesus wept give it a rest.
Thanks to LVG for bringing United into the future by demanding those HD cameras at Carrington
Some people definitely seem to prefer if we stayed on brand with the chronic pessimism and moaning on the Cafe
Some people definitely seem to prefer if we stayed on brand with the chronic pessimism and moaning on the Cafe
Right!
To paraphrase someone from Reddit, they're probably annoyed their multi-year holiday is over and they might actually have to earn their paycheque!
Heads, hearts, brains, veins. Neat, Ralf.
Rogers? I’d was more worried it’d be BruceyYeah, but I was fully expecting fecking Rodgers or Southgate, so I'll allow myself to be happy thanks.
And thanks to him that they haven’t suffered wind damage because of the trees he demanded
Be happy and optimistic by all means, I certainly am happy that we've replaced Ole with someone who is more capable.
My only issue is the overstating of the impact of Rangnick. If we appointed any of the other shortlisted candidates, there wouldn't have been half as much hype even though Rangnick is less accomplished than Valverde or Garcia.
Rangnick is in unchartered territory at United, he's never coached at this level before so I'm just calling for people to be a bit reserved in their expectations at least until we actually see proof on the pitch.
I'm more excited about him staying on after we find a permanent manager. Hopefully we hired him to stay on and REALLY consult, maybe even take a role similar to that of a DOF.
I'm hoping that we start building towards some kind of identity on the pitch. Because since SAF retired we have been changing our way of playing dramatically with every appointment.
Let's hope Rangnick got him to sign something on paper because we know about Woody and promises.
You can't just randomly expect the players to suddenly have the stamina to press hard when they've not been specifically training for it.
You're right but hopefully this is a start of the long term plan. Rangnick comes in and lays the foundations, moves up to senior management where he and Murtough bring in a manager that fits the same ideology, and it continues from there over the next few years. Murtough continues the blueprint while Rangnick gets to retire in the Cotswolds, happy in the knowledge that he's fixed the biggest club in England, drinking stout until the end of his days and basking in the knowledge that he's pissed off Liam Gallagher.
As a plan it could go either way but I'm just glad that we finally have a plan after years or fecking about.
I wrote this on Thursday or Wednesday. Also today I’ve noticed a lot of journalist are putting the consultant bit in single quotation marks, sometimes that’s used to symbolise a supposedly type scenario
I am one of those who is excited but you are right. It's reminiscent of LVG where people were expecting him to make us like Bayern.
I am just excited to get a competent coach.
Haha, showing your age with this comment!
This should worry us a lot, if United has one thing its an abundance of people that don't know what they are doing that don't like being challenged. Especially concerning his future role, probably why its only a "consultancy".
Everyone knows that we aren't hiring a top class manager. But for a team that plays ancient football tactically it's definitely exciting to have someone who is highly rated for his progressive football tactics whether he works out or not. Its a shame that you have endure some positivity though.
Looking forward to Rangnick making Maguire mow the training field grass for 4-6 hours, Ronaldo give stadium tours, Pogba work 3 hours in the fan shop and other punishments he'll be handing out.
https://www.firstorderhistorians.com/2018/09/13/special-penalties-for-leipzig-players/
https://www.firstorderhistorians.com/2018/09/13/special-penalties-for-leipzig-players/
I don't think he's going to be as extreme as he has in the past. At an elite club that already has bog stars of the game he'll have to adapt a bit, but of course they will too.
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