Pretty sure he'll be the sporting director he will get an official title closer to the summer
Ralf Rangnick | 2021/22 Interim Manager Performances
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Pretty sure he'll be the sporting director he will get an official title closer to the summer
I take it his first game in charge will be the Arsenal game next week?
+ would he leave his current job if he isn't certain on a long-term and influential role?
This all seems very Louis van Gaal-ish.
To be fair, leaving Locomotive Moscow for Man United is not that difficult.
They're a given if you're a professional I would expect.Are they not important?
Only thing they have in common is their age when they took the job. Style-wise they're both very different coaches, not to mention Ragnick is being brought in ultimately as more of a director type appointment in the long run, and not our permanent manager.
Have the club confirmed it?
Van Gaal was and is a very good coach. He was also able to coach us really effectively to what he wanted us to play like. Van Gaals problem was his style didn't correlate at all to what United fans like to see, and his vision for players a squad building wasn't working. But he coached them effectively.
Rangnicks style quite simply just meshes with what your average United fan likes to see. So right away its a pretty drastic but key difference.
He's not as divisive a figure and is a bit less stubborn. Van Gaal had a track record of exploding, but bigger still, hadn't really played the way we were anticipating for since 1995. I don't think the Barca team ( 98 - 2000) or the Bayern one ( 2009 to 2011) were the style we were looking for. He also came with the mindset that he could just throw players away at a whim. Ragnick still has some things to prove, which makes it a wonderful prospect for both parties. He can be celebrated in the way Hiddink was for Chelsea or Zlatan still is.
Klopp mentioned something very important yesterday.
Rangnick won't have time to train. Honigstein said something similar. It could take a while before we start looking like a well oiled unit.
Rangnick won't have time to train. Honigstein said something similar. It could take a while before we start looking like a well oiled unit.
Will the players listen to him? They need to learn a completely new system in 8 months time, only to then throw it all away because the new manager might have a different approach.
not taking action before/around the international break was so dumb, but alas
Well logically if you go the Rangnick route and have him as senior member of the club for the next few years, then logically the new manager will be someone that has a similar or compatible approach. Also his approach doesn't rely on a specific type of player and players spend most of their careers listening to different coaches and learning different methods, they are no as close minded as people seem to think.
I think not. As a consultant he will definitely have a say on who is the next manager and the approach to coaching.
Completely stupid indeed. As if a potential win against Watford would have changed Ole's position
How does his team play during the build up phase. Is there alot of movement, short passes, long passes?
The counter attacking I’m happy with but what happens when teams sit back, can his team break down a lowblock?
The counter attacking I’m happy with but what happens when teams sit back, can his team break down a lowblock?
It's all tactical adjustments, they won't need 8 months. You see all the time, when managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte takes over from the first game team plays in manager's style. It takes time to perfect the system but we should see changes very quickly.
Most of the adjustments are off the ball, like how and when to press, off the ball runs picking moments and also creating angles to receive passes. We will have problems for sure but with the quality of players we have, we should play well.
Also good chance there will be few injuries if the team is not prepared physically, which usually happens with preseason work.
This won't happen. He's staying on as a consultant for football decisions and the permanent manager will probably continue working on what he started.
What you mentioned is why we brought Rangnick.
Yes, this is something that people do need to be ready for.
We significantly increased our workrate and running intensity when Ole first took over, and it's not coincidence we had quite a lot of muscle injuries after that. It's probably part of the reason we've dropped back quite a bit since then.
I remember the same also happened when Klopp took over Liverpool. A lot of injuries for the first 6-18 months, but after that the players who weren't suitable had been moved on and the rest of them had adjusted.
We do have a better and deeper squad than we had when Ole first took over and probably than Liverpool had then, so hopefully we'll be able to rotate better to reduce the impact. I still expect quite a few muscle injuries to happen for a while though. This 6 months under Rangnick will put us 6 months ahead in that regard when the full time manager takes over who hopefully will have a similar pressing system.
I wonder if he plays Bailly and Varane, Maguire can’t play in a high line… imagine 
i think it’s pretty clear poch will join in the summer who also buys into a similar philosophy. That’s why it makes so much sense
Based on the deal we're going for RR will implement the first steps of a tactical identity and then the club will continue with a manager of similar philosophy.
That's in theory, knowing United, we'll appoint someone with a completely different approach.
I do wonder how much pressure there is on RR to get results or if building a successful formula is more important.
That's in theory, knowing United, we'll appoint someone with a completely different approach.
I do wonder how much pressure there is on RR to get results or if building a successful formula is more important.
Thats an interesting point which I hadn’t given a huge amount of thought too. There will obviously be targets in relation to the achievement of a top four position, but let’s be honest, if we are anticipating that we are going to implement an entirely new football philosophy then there may need to be some initial trade off in results?
Bild also report that Rangnick won't be in charge against Arsenal and that Crystal Palace will be his first match.
The style of play he implements will be flowed by his successor, though if he is a hit over his 26 games I can see him staying on as manager. For once the club are thinking properly about the medium-long term. Sort of thing you expect and associate with Bayern Munich not us.
Put it this way: it'd be easier to go from Liverpool's system to City's than it would be to go from ours to either. Because there are certain high level fundamentals that overlap between the two. Whatever system Rangnick implements will take us closer to whatever different system our permanent manager will bring in then we are now. And it appears Rangnick will have some influence in who the next permanent manager is, along with the people who brought in Rangnick himself.
Good time to be honest, gives him and easier fixture list to start going forward but with the complication of the Christmas period which could hopefully be used to his advantage and drill his ideas into the players during high intensity games and training. Hopefully.
What's the hold up here? Is it just a matter of working things out with his current club? Would have liked for him to be in for next week.
That and visa problems. Hopefully won't take as long as Varane's did to get approved.
I thought it should have been a really straightforward process for the guys from the EU post-brexit? There’s a certain financial threshold that needs to be met in terms of salary but that’s obviously covered in this case.
Yeah accepted that's the case and fully expecting the usual suspects to start reporting it too
Ralph is at the wheel. Time will tell if he steers it in the right direction
if everything goes right, he should be appointed as the permanent manager. i trust the club has that in mind.
Ralf Rangnick suffered from Burn-Out already and took a break mid season unexpectedly once due to exhaustion. He won't be a permenant manager at least this is what I believe. Rangnick is aiming more for the sporting director role and he is willing to be interims coach to get the job. He has a certain vision and he is not afraid to leave the club if his vision is not appreciated.
Outstanding coach though, nonetheless and you can be very happy to have him. Do not get used to him though.
No. Rangnick just wants to be a consultant after his phase as an interim manager. At Leipzig, he quitted his role as a coach twice so that he can move to backstage and relax.
He also quit his job as Schalke's coach due to chronic fatigue syndrome.
I'm impressed by what I saw from Rangnick's first United side today.
He's had two training sessions with the players, one of which was a recovery day for everyone who played against Arsenal. However, in that time, he's managed to get the players clued into his 4-2-2-2 and able to execute his pressing tactics. For 45 minutes we were completely in control.
Clearly, second half, we witnessed that our players bodies are a bit behind their minds in following the gameplan. Rangnick mentioned that might happen pre-game, when he was talking about how it wouldn't be possible to turn the players into pressing monsters overnight. Still, plenty on display to be optimistic about for the months ahead if the players fitness levels and decision making improves. If we're able to capitalise on the moments when we've got the opposition boxed in it'll make getting wins much less difficult/energy sapping.
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Heard part of his post match interview. He said he spoke to Ole. Fred is a wonderful boy. He was happy with Mctominay. With fred and mctominay we can play aggressive football.
we might as well have kept Ole
we might as well have kept Ole
You obviously didn't watch the game then.Heard part of his post match interview. He said he spoke to Ole. Fred is a wonderful boy. He was happy with Mctominay. With fred and mctominay we can play aggressive football.
we might as well have kept Ole
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