Yeah, I know Arnautovic. Wasn't really a serious post, I'm not judging a player on one performance in an international friendly. I just literally didn't see any other match of Danilo in the last 2 years. Maybe @Sly knows more.
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I'm happy with valencia as a backup for now. no need for a rb in jan imo.
I think we should just break the bank for Coleman at the earliest opportunity.
Rafael can then compete for the RB choice when fit, and also cover at LB where we are pretty thin on the ground.
I love Rafael but unfortunately it has reached a point where he just cannot be relied upon, fitness wise.
Rafael can then compete for the RB choice when fit, and also cover at LB where we are pretty thin on the ground.
I love Rafael but unfortunately it has reached a point where he just cannot be relied upon, fitness wise.
These days attacking is as important as defending. We can always play there Jones who is defensively solid.. As long as we stick to this diamond paly we should be aspring to have world class Fullbacks capable to attack providing the width we lack for the most of the time when Valencia is playing. Young was very good last match but his delivery is unfortunately very poor. both him and Tony looked quite solid defensively, Young being solid defensively is a huge surprise for me, not long time ago he played off striker role next to Welbeck right now he is proper fullback and he has done good so far.. I wouldn't go to market only to buy world class quality or at least possibly someone solid who can cover both flanks - ie Nathan Clyne. I would buy Azpilacueta but he would cost so much..
Danilo is finally beggining to prove his worth and his hefty price tag. He has been considerably worse than Alex Sandro in the last two years but this year under Lopetegui he is playing very well and has been one of the key players for Porto (with some important goals and assists, which is nice for a right back). Dunga has also been calling him to the Brazilian national team since he got appointed. At Porto he always plays as right back but he can also play as CM with reasonable efficiency. He got torn appart by Arnautovic? I didn't watch that match but any player can have a bad performance. He has held his own well against better players than Arnautovic.
And it was the one play that NBC chose to insert into one of their adverts. Irks me every time I see Clattenburg pointing...
Thanks.
Yep, torn apart is the right term, at least in the first 45 minutes it was the case.
Over 160 appearances for United and only 24 - fantastic player - but after all we should get rid of best players shouldn't we
Over 160 appearances for United and only 24 - fantastic player - but after all we should get rid of best players shouldn't we
Get rid ? I think that no one wants that.
But we need a first choice RB, we can't play a seconded rated player half of the season. Rafael is injury prone, we can't trust him to be fit for an entire season.
He has been in the squad since lets say 18, so he has been here 6 years, that matches a bit more than 25 matches per year, maybe that's the reason. Even Valencia has matched 200 matches for United. And he has been here later. In only one season he has played more than 25 league games, that's the reason why we should sell him/give him a smaller role, he is injury prone, error prone (which costs us points at times).Over 160 appearances for United and only 24 - fantastic player - but after all we should get rid of best players shouldn't we
Over 160 appearances for United and only 24 - fantastic player - but after all we should get rid of best players shouldn't we
Hardly anybody here thinks we should get rid of Rafael, that possibility is barely ever mentioned.
People just want us to have an alternative given how reliant we currently are on an injury prone player.
There's also no point in signing someone who isn't good enough to compete with or displace Rafael. He isn't so brilliant that he couldn't do with competition, even when fit.
No need for wasting £20-25 million on Coleman. We had a capable alternate to Rafael up until fairly recently. And could probably resign him for £5 million given his team's current status.
Fabio is injury prone too, and he is not very good.
He wasn't first choice when he was 18 - Neville was still here till 2010 - he played 40 times in 2012/13 and even 28 last season with some injuries - he's missed some games this season - but if we want to replace all the players who have injuries we will be replacing 90% of the team. He will become one of the best full backs in the world, don't think he's that far now
Fabio isn't good enough.
Man, hope he doesn't suffer another injury this season. Desperate for him to succeed here cause we know how good he is.
He's been largely injury free for the past year. And it's not as if we're going to need him for 30 games per season. Even if Rafael's out for 20 games annually it shouldn't be a problem considering Fabio played an average of 21 games per season from 2010/ 2011 to 2012/ 2013. Also disagree on the second part. We don't need a world-class addition at right back. If we do buy that caliber of a player then might as well get rid of Rafael because he's too good of a player to be an understudy to the new arrival.
Fabio while not earth-shattering is a good little player whose growth as a footballer was hampered by Patrice Evra's consistent presence at left-back and his brother's emergence on the opposite flank. He would be a decent backup with option to start in Rafael's absence, wouldn't cost much, gives a 100 % every time he puts on the shirt, knows the club inside out and has chemistry with a lot of the players. If anyone can help resurrect his career, it's Van Gaal after the dismal treatment at our previous manager's hands.
We don't need a swing backup of absolute top quality.
1) If he would be good then he wouldn't be now a Championship player (He was only very good for a weeks in a United shirt)
2) I think he even had more injuries than Rafael
3) Wasting 20-25m on Coleman
I hope something is done in the transfer window for a second RB because with Rafael out, there just ain't anything happening on the right side. It's like having one arm.
It'd be wiser to get a fullback capable of covering both flanks, akin to Azpilicueta for Chelsea. The likes of Vrsaljko, Darmian, possibly even De Sciglio. A player who will not cost a major amount and be content in being less than a first team player but more than just a squad player.
1) If he would be good then he wouldn't be now a Championship player (He was only very good for a weeks in a United shirt)
2) I think he even had more injuries than Rafael
3) Wasting 20-25m on Coleman
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1. I don't think it's as black and white as that. Fabio's deal was largely situational, forced by the previous manager and facilitated by the presence of a United great at the then Premier League club Cardiff City. And before one looks down upon Championship based players - Baines was playing in the championship at about age 23, as was Coleman at age 22, Cahill at age 23, and Jagielka at age 25. Fabio was a good player for United, the sustained, evergreen presence of Evra just didn't give him the opportunity to claim a starting role in his natural position as opposed to Rafael who got the chance with Gary Neville's injury concerns and subsequent retirement.
2. We wouldn't be bringing him to usurp Rafael as the starter. Just as a backup who could start in his stead for 15-20 and provide some security blanket. Also as stated before he has been relatively healthy for the past calender year.
3. What's so funny about it ? People slam Rafael's supposed rash ways and mental lapses, but Coleman makes some rather unforced errors that go largely unnoticed because of the fact that he's playing at Everton. At United every such fault will be relentlessly scrutinized. That aside from the fact that he's not a £20-25 million player by any stretch of the imagination when a right-back of fairly equivalent quality transferred to Arsenal for £10million (Debuchy). I'd suspect we could sign Van der Wiel for a similar £10 million fee if PSG make Auerier's deal permanent. And he is every bit as good of a fullback as Coleman apart from the temporary cockfight with Van Gaal.
Ashley Young probably could do that, if his future here is as a full back now. He's barely got a left foot as it is, but Van Gaal seems to fancy him as a left sided player right now.
Is Rafael much better though? I don't remember there being much difference between them
Rafael is probably my favourite player, but we're 14 games into the season and he's made it out onto the pitch 6 times. That isn't enough, and we need a viable alternative that can perform just as well. I don't think Valencia is a long term resolution and it's a position we need to look at over the next two transfer windows.
Keep Rafael by all means, but we can't rely on him the way we do right now.
Keep Rafael by all means, but we can't rely on him the way we do right now.
Domestically (top four-ish), I think that would be enough. But for our future aspirations; winning the league and competing in Europe we need more.
I'd agree, specifically in the Champions League. I think he is a decent quad player to have in the Premier League, even when we're looking to be gunning down the title.
I'm really not a fan of the guy, but I've been impressed with his stand-in left back performances. Given he can play on both sides in defence and midfield/wing, he's a good versatile squad option overall if he can continue to put in solid performances like he has been doing.
Where's the white text bro?
On the topic of Fabio, I saw this on a Cardiff forum:
3 years ago he was playing in the champions league final for Manchester United against Barcelona competing against the likes of Lionel Messi and Andrés Iniesta.
Now, he's playing Hungry Hungry Hippos against Anthony Pilkington at Toys R Us
United has a club except to play at least 56 games per seasons (38 in PL, 8 in the domestic cups and 10 in CL). Rafael can't do that every seasons, so we have to answer to this question who do we want to play when Rafael is erratically absent ? Because he can be absent for a CL QF or a cup final.
I prefer to see either a very talented young fullback or a very experienced one, and not a makeshift fullback or an average player without future.
Why? Effectively we only have one real RB and he's always on the sickbed or coming off it. Keep Valencia as a backup and sign a real RB in January. One that can play game in game out.
People keep saying Rafael will become the best RB in the world. Lets be realistic here, he's 24 years old now and he's basically the same player he's been for the last 4 years. He's hopes of representing Brazil are slim to none. How is he going to achieve this with all these injuries?
What? He's been one of the best RBs in the league last season and this one, grant it only when he's not injured.
He's always been a good player, from day one. However, we can't pretend that he has taken his game to a new level because he hasn't. Im talking about being in contention for bigger individual accolades and recognition beyond just United fans and England
I only remember one decent run of games that Fabio had at right back, his best position. And I didn't think he was any worse than Rafael. Sorry.
Hey, don't be sorry. Name 3 right backs that are better than Rafael in the premier league.
Its unreal how many United fans don't rate Rafael. I've even seen people saying Valencia is better at right back. Laughable stuff.
You could add Sagna and Zabaleta to that list also.
Zabaleta obviously, and arguably Debuchy.
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