Yep, you guys have done well to ship out the dross and bring in superior players these last years.
Rafael da Silva | 2010-14 Performances
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Yep, Toure, Clichy, Adebayor and Nasri sold for £75M and replaced by better players.
Replaced by better players? Who are they then?
The proof is in the pudding, look at the improvement in the league and in Europe since the days of Adebayor.
Vermaelen, Santos, RvP, and Ramsey+Ox. Wanna argue it?
Santos better than Clichy?
Even though Nasri is over-rated, there's no way that Ramsey and OX are better than him. Adebayor wasn't replaced by RVP. Christ, you've completely lost it.
Even though Nasri is over-rated, there's no way that Ramsey and OX are better than him. Adebayor wasn't replaced by RVP. Christ, you've completely lost it.
He got one out of four though, that's not bad.
'This'
These days PS makes Glaston look like a level headed realist. He completely lost it along with Wenger and the boys after the Carling Cup final defeat to Birmingham. Sent them back years that defeat. Mwahahaha.
Well losing Fabregas and Hleb had more to do with that.
He he, I thrashed Glaston so bad he won't even show his face in the football forums.
Arsenal's Points
07-8: 83 [3rd]
08-9: 72 [4th]
09-10: 75 [3rd]
10-11: 68 [4th]
11-12 projected: 73 if they keep averaging 1.9 pts per game. But their schedule is a bit tough to end things so I'd say 70.
Of course no Arsenal supporter would say things got better this year, right?
07-8: 83 [3rd]
08-9: 72 [4th]
09-10: 75 [3rd]
10-11: 68 [4th]
11-12 projected: 73 if they keep averaging 1.9 pts per game. But their schedule is a bit tough to end things so I'd say 70.
Of course no Arsenal supporter would say things got better this year, right?
Each season has it's own dynamic. For us, losing Fabregas and Nasri and having Wilshere out all season (in a team that needs to control the CM) - it's great achievement to have done so well.
The flip side to losing Wilshere to injury is that you've actually been incredibly lucky to have Van Persie available all season long given his record. That's why you need a squad of good players to win the league. Something you don't have.
I'd argue that RvP wasn't a replacement for anyone, he was already there and you haven't replaced Nasri. Ramsey was a fine signing but not a Nasri replacement.
Santos is not better. He was a desperate buy like Park or Benayoun loan. Didn't rate him before he joined and was actually disappointed that they bought him.
Nasri will be replaced next summer. Cesc won't be replaced just like Scholes or Giggs won't be either.
Sales were good though. Nasri was good for you though but he's a prick and that isn't good for a team so from an Arsenal POV I'd agree with every Wenger sales but not his purchases. He messed up this summer and he's pretty much agreed as much. His recent quotes on transfers are promising for Arsenal and they'll be better next season. No doubt about that.
As for Rafael, he's having a good spell right now, still needs to curtail the rashness but I hope he plays all the run-in games and re-establishes himself as our first choice RB.
This.
Is actually disappointing how much of a bunch of non-contenders Arse have been. They are absolutely miles off a proper PL challenge and every years seem to sell a top player and buy some random kid.
You think you have done so well?
Looking at where they stand, and what they've had to contend with, I think the Gooners have had a good season.
Considering they lost Fabregas, Nasri, and then having to deal with long term injuries to Wilshere, and most of their back 4 throughout the season, it's been a fantastic achievement. All this whilst living within one's means.
Nar, they've been bobbins for most of the season and have only now put a decent run together. They are extremely lucky that both Chelsea and Liverpool are complete shite.
If United were forced to sell their talisman, their captain, who was also the player the whole side was built around they would have struggled early on in the season too.
No Fabregas and Nasri meant two key ingredients to our creative play had to be covered, it was always going to take time to recover from that... Imagine United without Rooney and Nani, they would look a lot less settled and devoid of ideas too.
No Fabregas and Nasri meant two key ingredients to our creative play had to be covered, it was always going to take time to recover from that... Imagine United without Rooney and Nani, they would look a lot less settled and devoid of ideas too.
Since October we've been playing as well as United and City (in the League). Both of which bombed out of Europe earlier than us too.
Funnily enough that was about the time the side looked like it had finally gelled together and got some collective confidence back. An unsettled team with little belief in itself is always going to play shite.
Some of you lot need a clue and a half.
Edit: What the, as if this is a thread about Rafael... Will spoiler the original post then.
We won the league and got to the champions league final the season after Ronaldo and Tevez left....
Erm....
12 of first 13 games won the following season, beat Arsenal, Tottenham and City along the way
And you really have been awful for most of this season (by Arsenal standards of course), check the Arsenal threads from the start of the season, I expected you to do much better.
I won't mention Tevez.
For you Cesc, did you say "get a clue"
At least Arsenal fans are realistic about what constitutes a successful season (3rd), Liverpool fans still delusionally think they should be winning the league.
2 seasons after
I think Arsenal getting 3rd will be a great achievement. After the first month, nobody was even predicting them for the top 4.
Wenger has a good squad to build on overall, if he buys right then I can see them challenging again next year.
Erm....
12 of first 13 games won the following season, beat Arsenal, Tottenham and City along the way
And you really have been awful for most of this season (by Arsenal standards of course), check the Arsenal threads from the start of the season, I expected you to do much better.
I won't mention Tevez.
For you Cesc, did you say "get a clue"
Good point, don't know how I totally forgot about Ronaldo. United really had a fantastic squad though.
It boils down to squad depth and experience, and depth is something we don't seem to have. Hopefully Wenger addresses the issues over the summer. Though with a fit Wilshere and Mertesacker back next season our squad will look a whole lot healthier already.
Were they sold last minute, I can't honestly remember? It's our own fault (also Barca's hardballing) everything was left WAY too late, but at the time you could tell things were a shambles. Too many dead-line signings, not enough time for the squad to gel.
Arsenal: 30 games, 58 pts, 1.93 ppg
Arsenal since October: 24 games, 51 pts, 2.125 ppg
United: 30 games, 73 pts, 2.43 ppg
United since October: 24 games, 57 points, 2.38 ppg
City: 30 games, 70 pts, 2.33 ppg
City since October: 24 games, 54 points, 2.25 ppg
Spurs: 30 games, 55 pts, 1.83 ppg
Spurs since October: 25 games, 46 points, 1.84 ppg
Chelsea: 30 games, 50 pts, 1.67 ppg
Chelsea since October: 24 games, 35 pts, 1.46 ppg.
Arsenal have been closer to United and City than Spurs and Chelsea, but Arsenal haven't been able to keep pace. Certainly a good job considering the turmoil the club got itself into to start the season.
Still, you can hardly compliment a club for shooting themselves in the foot and then fixing it.
I would rather look at the results week in week out rather than look at what has happened over the last 30 games and in 2 months time all this information will be free anyway.
I don't drink so don't know how much half a larger costs
Problem with apps are as they are so cheap you think oh go on why not, before you know your £25 iTunes voucher has about 69p left....We are living in challenging financial times my friend, have to save where we can
That's what happens when you finish 4th in the League and can't be certain of qualification to the CL group stages. Chelsea can afford to take the risk of investing heavily before the play-off round if they finish 4th but neither Arsenal or Spurs can. Even if you do finish 3rd you're still going to struggle to offload a number of out of favour players on very good contracts in order to make room for new signings - Arshavin, Park, Chamakh, Vela, Denilson, Bendtner, Squillaci, Diaby etc. At least Almunia's out of contract and Benayoun can return to Chelsea.
And if I'm Van Persie, at 29 years of age and with just one FA Cup winners medal to show for my eight years at Arsenal, then I'm off like a shot as soon as a bigger club comes in for me offering more money.
Good luck.
Thought he was fantastic tonight, didn't really put a foot wrong all game, defended and attacked well and yet again looking good linking up with Valencia. Also great to see him complete another 90 minutes.
Brilliant performance.
He had a very solid mature game, a 7,5/10 rating from me.
He and Valencia have built up a fantastic partnership. Great performance.
He's class, destined to be top quality. His partnership with Valencia is just incredible at times, both so talented, tenacious and strong.
The right back spot is his as far as I'm concerned.
Very good. He always did well when Blackburn were countering. Perfectly positioned and followed his man well.
that header
edit feck know which minute that was but you know what Im talking about
edit feck know which minute that was but you know what Im talking about
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