[RedMachine03]

No, he won't be. He's not even back in training yet.

Wasn't he back in training last week? Anyway here is another quote


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[Baxter]

Welbeck who has only scored once more in the league despite starting almost every game. Yeah, truly awful decision.

 

[J-Stander]

I'm still retaining some hope that he'll come back and start smashing them in. Cant see much chance of us forking out 40 odd million for him though.

 

[Shimo]

Screw the philosophy at this point, if they are not hurt, play them because they'll probably otherwise do a Sturridge and keep injuring themselves in those 2 weeks first training with the selection - especially Jones and Evans.

 

[Sammyjunn]

Welbeck who has only scored once more in the league despite starting almost every game. Yeah, truly awful decision.

Being available is also very important, what's the point of having someone who cant stay fit (this also goes for Smalling/Jones/Evans).

 

[Baxter]

Being available is also very important, what's the point of having someone who cant stay fit (this also goes for Smalling/Jones/Evans).

Obviously, but how anyone can say selling Welbeck was an awful decision, when his goal tally this season is not great, is ridiculous. I reckon if Falcao played half the games of Welbeck he'd still score more.

 

[pseudo_canadian]

Brilliant player but seems like an other £20m flushed. Makes the Welbeck decision worse too.

Welbeck was a goner regardless. He knew Wilson was breathing down his neck and got out.

 

[Zoo]

“I am getting better, I feel well and I hope to come back to the pitch soon,” Radamel explained. “It is disappointing that I can’t play but I have to be calm and recover because that is important to help the team when I return to the games."

Quizzed on the media reports about his knee, he continued: “It is a bit frustrating. Well, it is more than frustrating actually and it detracts from the credibility of the media that there is so much speculation and that so many falsehoods have been written about it.

"I think with an audience of so many millions of people, it is not right. I did take a small injury to my calf, which is something that I need to be careful with, but there are a lot of stories circulating that are pure speculation.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F.../Radamel-Falcao-addresses-injury-rumours.aspx

 

[NinjaFletch]

Wasn't he back in training last week? Anyway here is another quote


Edit -

Yes, pictures with Peirera iirc.

Also I'm pretty sure that quote means its a 'new injury' i.e. its not the knee injury people have been speculating about.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

LVG is notoriously cautious with returning players from injury. I wouldn't expect to see Radamel play for a while yet.

 

[saivet]

I can't say I'm overly fussed to be honest. Us signing him on loan was strange enough as it is. Having a player that we didn't really need being out is not a huge concern.

 

[Sammyjunn]

Obviously, but how anyone can say selling Welbeck was an awful decision, when his goal tally this season is not great, is ridiculous. I reckon if Falcao played half the games of Welbeck he'd still score more.

It still is, imo, we have strengthened Arsenal and for the short term, I think Welbeck would've done better than Falcao has so far.

 

[RedMachine03]

Yes, pictures with Peirera iirc.

Also I'm pretty sure that quote means its a 'new injury' i.e. its not the knee injury people have been speculating about.

It's the calf.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Obviously, but how anyone can say selling Welbeck was an awful decision, when his goal tally this season is not great, is ridiculous. I reckon if Falcao played half the games of Welbeck he'd still score more.

I think most people who were unhappy assumed we might regret selling Welbeck in the long term but Falcao would be a far superior player this season.

The fact Welbeck's actually scored more league goals than Falcao, has a decent record in Europe, is avoiding injury and generally showing the qualities we're lacking most up front so far this season (work-rate, pace) is making it look like a bad decision even sooner than Welbeck's staunchest advocates thought it would.

I just hope this weekend doesn't make things even worse...

 

[wr8_utd]

He needs to come back. The longer he's out, the longer RvP has no competition to his spot and continues to stroll through games. I'd love to see Rooney Falcao vs Hull next weekend

 

[MDFC Manager]

Welbeck who has only scored once more in the league despite starting almost every game. Yeah, truly awful decision.

Moreover, we're already accommodating Rooney in midfield. I'm pretty sure Welbeck wouldn't be playing much at all.

 

[KeninDC]

Living and working in DC makes me naturally suspicious. That Falcao's "calf injury" followed on soon after playing in three games (two internationals) and long plane flights makes me think that he aggravated his knee. He may well have a calf knock, but that could be a secondary concern. And, all of the denials that his absence results from a knee issue seems a little too defensive, IMO.

 

[Ekeke]

This is what I was worried about when we signed him

 

[bosnian_red]

I think most people who were unhappy assumed we might regret selling Welbeck in the long term but Falcao would be a far superior player this season.

The fact Welbeck's actually scored more league goals than Falcao, has a decent record in Europe, is avoiding injury and generally showing the qualities we're lacking most up front so far this season (work-rate, pace) is making it look like a bad decision even sooner than Welbeck's staunchest advocates thought it would.

I just hope this weekend doesn't make things even worse...

Welbeck being here would have only hampered Wilson IMO, and Wilson offers similar pace, though is obviously just a youngster. Long term I still think selling him was the right move, welbeck wanted first team football but he was never going to get that here. Not like he would've played much over Rvp anyways, just wouldve replaced Wilson on the bench.

Basically, this season I don't think he would've changed anything even if he stayed, as he just wouldn't be playing. He'd be available unlike Falcao, sure, but our other strikers haven't picked up any knocks so that doesn't matter really.

The only thing this welbeck deal did was give him playing time he wouldn't have otherwise had, and give arsenal a better option up front, but even so, its not somebody will lead them to the top 4 or greatly improve them or whatever. That's Sanchez, welbeck will probably be rotated once giroud is back.

 

[JackXX]

Really disappointed we have not seen more of him. Can't remember a time like this for injuries.

 

[NinjaFletch]

I think most people who were unhappy assumed we might regret selling Welbeck in the long term but Falcao would be a far superior player this season.

The fact Welbeck's actually scored more league goals than Falcao, has a decent record in Europe, is avoiding injury and generally doing showing the qualities we're lacking most up front so far this season (work-rate, pace) is making it look like a bad decision even sooner than Welbeck's staunchest advocates thought it would.

I think they're two separate things. The decision to replace Welbeck with Falcao has clearly been a bad one so far because Falcao has barely had a kick, but that doesn't necessarily mean that letting Welbeck go was a bad decision.

If anything, I think Welbeck's disappointed. I thought when he was here he was very close to being the finished article, being stifled by a lack of opportunity and would fairly immediately start scoring more regularly and putting in big performances, he seems to have disproved that, and seems on his way to proving people right who thought he didn't have it in him to go on to the next level. Even the media seem to have given up on their ridiculous Welbeck hype train and any talk of the 'new Henry' and 'a bargain at £16m' seems to have died down.

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

LVG is notoriously cautious with returning players from injury

Feck all good its done for us so far.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I think they're two separate things. The decision to replace Welbeck with Falcao has clearly been a bad one so far because Falcao has barely had a kick, but that doesn't necessarily mean that letting Welbeck go was a bad decision.

If anything, I think Welbeck's disappointed. I thought when he was here he was very close to being the finished article, being stifled by a lack of opportunity and would fairly immediately, he seems to have disproved that, and seems on his way to proving people right who thought he didn't have it in him to go on to the next level. Even the media seem to have given up on their ridiculous Welbeck hype train and any talk of the 'new Henry' and 'a bargain at £16m' seems to have died down.

There's less hype and he's going through a quiet spell in front of goal. Arsenal have been terrible over the last few weeks though so he's not exactly been inundated with chances. Did very well for England and looked good for Arsenal in every game I've watched. Certainly looking much more effective than any number 9 Van Gaal has picked for United so far this season.

Anyhoo. I'm boring everyone to death with my Welbeck whinging.

Back to Radamel Falcao....

 

[NinjaFletch]

There's less hype and he's going through a quiet spell in front of goal. Arsenal have been terrible over the last few weeks though so he's not exactly been inundated with chances. Did very well for England and looked good for Arsenal in every game I've watched. Certainly looking much more effective than any number 9 Van Gaal has picked for United so far this season.

Anyhoo. I'm boring everyone to death with my Welbeck whinging.

Back to Radamel Falcao....

Perhaps its more a case of my expectations of what Welbeck was going to become being more closely realigned with reality and nothing more than that. But I just feel like he's doing simply what a lot always suspected of him: working hard, linking play nicely, not being prolific, I take your point about Arsenal and us, but still feel like its a little exaggerated. The talk is Giroud will be straight back in the Arsenal side Saturday, which is far from a glowing endorsement of what Welbeck's brought to that side.

I just think, when the alternative was keeping Welbeck and Falcao going to City (and inevitably playing every game and banging in 10 goals already because thats how these things work out) I'm not sure we're worse off in either the short term or the long term.

 

[Trizy]

LVG is notoriously cautious with returning players from injury. I wouldn't expect to see Radamel play for a while yet.

Have noticed that during his time here, also he's very picky with fitness levels.

 

[JustAFan]

Hoping we have not agreed to buy him on a permanent deal yet.

 

[2 man midfield]

Just ughh.

 

[Zoo]

Would rather be patient and wait for him to get up to full speed then see him playing whilst not at 100% and risking picking up these niggling injuries.

 

[Get In Scholesy]

It's obvious that Van Gaal has his entirely own criteria of 'match fit'. These players may be fitter than your average player, but in order to be in a Van Gaal starting XI, you have to be in the utmost levels of fitness. Something Falcao is clearly not in due to his circumstances, so it may be a while until he is ready for Van Gaal.

Which is something I don't necessarily mind, seeing as how we have RVP and Rooney to play up top for us, resulting in us not necessarily needing Falcao. I would rather we wait on him and let him get a sustained run rather than this start-stop season he seems to be having.

I get that some fans are getting impatient, but this is not a minor surgery he is recovering from, it can affect various muscle groups if not careful during recovery.

 

[lem8sh]

Couldn't even consider buying him at the moment.

 

[DatIrishFella]

A new injury he suffered a few weeks ago. Wut?

 

[NotoriousISSY]

So essentially, he most likely won't be getting a run of games until the new year? Don't expect to see him here next summer. I expect a very disappointing end to this, and then he'll end up elsewhere and be an absolute beast. It's inevitable

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Is he ever going to be fit?
This is just my own opinion , we wont see him in a United shirt next season.

 

[Getsme]

Starting to fear the worst with him now, what has he played this season? 200 minutes at most?

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Couldn't even consider buying him at the moment.

There were reports that we have already shaken hands on a deal?

 

[SammyUnited_83]

Talksport (I know) just said another 2 weeks?

 

[Verminator]

There were reports that we have already shaken hands on a deal?

Judging by the look Stuart shot to Paddy on MUTV when a caller said that he won't be here next year, I'd guess you are right.

 

[Will Absolute]

Living and working in DC makes me naturally suspicious. That Falcao's "calf injury" followed on soon after playing in three games (two internationals) and long plane flights makes me think that he aggravated his knee. He may well have a calf knock, but that could be a secondary concern. And, all of the denials that his absence results from a knee issue seems a little too defensive, IMO.

There's an underground car park in Manchester. I'm on my way there now to get the latest from my source Deep Goat, who has never shown his face but speaks with a poorly disguised Scottish accent. If I survive, we'll know more.

 

[KeninDC]

There's an underground car park in Manchester. I'm on my way there now to get the latest from my source Deep Goat, who has never shown his face but speaks with a poorly disguised Scottish accent. If I survive, we'll know more.

Let me know if he tells you to follow the money.

 

[Brightonian]

Living and working in DC makes me naturally suspicious. That Falcao's "calf injury" followed on soon after playing in three games (two internationals) and long plane flights makes me think that he aggravated his knee. He may well have a calf knock, but that could be a secondary concern. And, all of the denials that his absence results from a knee issue seems a little too defensive, IMO.

Ah, the old 'he denied this, which makes me even more sure it's true!' approach to logic.