[Adam-Utd]

Do we have a nailed on agreement to sign him after this year?.

Say he bangs in 30 league goals, what's to stop at the end of this year Madrid coming in and buying him from Monaco?.

 

[Blue always red]

Sheikh Mansour could've thrown money at him aswell.

I thought they only had 3 million to play with or they'd get further shafted by FFP?

@Adam-Utd We have the 1st choice to buy option on him mate, but with 50 million being the reported fee, would you want to pay that for a 29 year old?

 

[Trizy]

Do we have a nailed on agreement to sign him after this year?.

Say he bangs in 30 league goals, what's to stop at the end of this year Madrid coming in and buying him from Monaco?.

I'm fairly sure we'd have first choice in signing him.

 

[Scorpy]

We have an option to buy him before his loan expires. Nothing to worry about.

 

[Seveneric]

Sheikh Mansour could've thrown money at him aswell.

Aren't they a bit restricted by FFP?

 

[Earthquake]

We have first option to sign him for 40-43m(IIRC). Thing is though, if Real do bat their eyelashes at him, he can easily just say. "No thanks Man Utd, I don't fancy contract negotiations with you, good luck and that."

Unless you believe Ballague, and it's a permanent deal, with the first year as a loan just to square Monaco's FFP, which means he's ours full stop, good or bad.

 

[united_99]

Eric you beauty, never ever disappoints!

 

[Adam-Utd]

I thought they only had 3 million to play with or they'd get further shafted by FFP?

@Adam-Utd We have the 1st choice to buy option on him mate, but with 50 million being the reported fee, would you want to pay that for a 29 year old?

Well I suppose we will have to see how it goes, but if he plays anything near his full ability 50m will be worth it.

We have first option to sign him for 40-43m(IIRC). Thing is though, if Real do bat their eyelashes at him, he can easily just say. "No thanks Man Utd, I don't fancy contract negotiations with you, good luck and that."

Unless you believe Ballague, and it's a permanent deal, with the first year as a loan just to square Monaco's FFP, which means he's ours full stop, good or bad.

Hopefully the latter as I fully believe he will be a star for us, but yeah that's what I worry, I think it's clear he is a Madrid fan like most Spanish speakers are at heart, but hopefully he enjoys it enough here to stay.

 

[Adnan]

I thought they only had 3 million to play with or they'd get further shafted by FFP?

@Adam-Utd We have the 1st choice to buy option on him mate, but with 50 million being the reported fee, would you want to pay that for a 29 year old?

City had €25m euros to play with before they offloaded Richards and Negredo according to Sky.

 

[DeMono]

 

[RetroStu]

No, no, no, all those clubs turned him down and he was forced to come here, thats why we have to pay him 750kpw just to have him here 'Rawk TM'

 

[Bojan11]

Meh, not really surprising considering that Madrid/Barca is the pinnacle of football for Latin/Hispanic players. I'm just delighted (and laughing ) that he rejected City and Liverpool despite their CL offering.

My only fear is that if he sets the PL on fire this season, Los Francos Blancos might come sniffing

Balague said Perez isn't a big fan of him.

 

[Kaos]

Balague said Perez isn't a big fan of him.

That might change if Benzema has a cack season and Falcao bangs in 20+ goals for us.

 

[Anderson18]

The loan is perfect. I mean he is 29 years old next year and if he doesn't score atleast 20+ goals taking the option would be insane. Still don't understand the signing, after RvP confirmed that he doesn't need injury. He's a pure 9, even a better out and out striker than RvP, but he isn't anywhere near his level outside the box. The best fox in the box in the game

 

[RetroStu]

That might change if Benzema has a cack season and Falcao bangs in 20+ goals for us.

The thing is though, this fee we agreed if we want him at the end of the season, surely Falcao had to agree to that as well right?, meaning that if we take up the option then Falcao has to go with it right?.

 

[Bojan11]

That might change if Benzema has a cack season and Falcao bangs in 20+ goals for us.

Benzema has scored like 2 in 16 now. And Perez didn't still buy a forward.

It could change, but apparently Perez doesn't think he'd fit in with Ronaldo and Bale. Which Benzema does.

 

[DeMono]

Why is there two threads? Very confusing. Mods?

Anyway, Ronaldo actually voted for Falcao as world player of the year. Rates him.

 

[Ish]

Kind Eric!

 

[Earthquake]

The thing is though, this fee we agreed if we want him at the end of the season, surely Falcao had to agree to that as well right?, meaning that if we take up the option then Falcao has to go with it right?.

No. Monaco have to accept, Falcao can do what he likes. You can't force him into a contract at your whim.

 

[Nights]

Benzema has scored like 2 in 16 now. And Perez didn't still buy a forward.

It could change, but apparently Perez doesn't think he'd fit in with Ronaldo and Bale. Which Benzema does.

The Benz doesn't have to score when you've got Ronaldo (100+ shots a game) and Bale (wishes he had 100 shots a game) in the side.

 

[Earthquake]

The Benz doesn't have to score when you've got Ronaldo (100+ shots a game) and Bale (wishes he had 100 shots a game) in the side.

Exactly, swap Falcao with Benzema, and you have to rebuild the side tactically, as Falcao isn't going to play a 100% supporting role for Ronaldo & Bale.

 

[SammyUnited_83]

No. Monaco have to accept, Falcao can do what he likes. You can't force him into a contract at your whim.

I would hope that certain things have been agreed for him to stay (if specific criteria is met on both sides). Otherwise, it would be quite short sighted of us to get rid of 2 strikers, get one on loan and then he disappears elsewhere.

Leaving us desperately needing a new striker next summer, with our pockets full of cash and every other club knowing it!!

 

[Pogue Mahone]

From t'other thread, posted in Spring of 2013.

Falcao: Only Rennes' Pitroipa (98) has lost the ball due to a poor 1st touch more times than Falcao (81) in Europe's top 5 leagues this term

His all-round play was never amazing IMO, but this stat is too much for a top player.

With all the shit Rooney gets over his first touch on here, you'd have to wonder if Falcao will soon be attracting the same ire.

 

[Sarni]

From t'other thread, posted in Spring of 2013.

With all the shit Rooney gets over his first touch on here, you'd have to wonder if Falcao will soon be attracting the same ire.

Pogue, at least wait until he plays a game for us before you start hating on him.

 

[kps88]

To be fair, the Rooney criticism disappears when he's scoring goals. If Falcao's banging them in, I couldn't care less what his first touch is like.

 

[Kaos]

A bit like Hernandez in his first season for us - we could all tell he had the first touch and technique of a paraplegic seal, but we didn't care because he was banging them in left, right and centre.

 

[MancFanFromManc]

Henry Winter (clearly knows his stuff):

"Radamel Falcao volleys like Mark Hughes and takes a ball on his instep and sprints towards goal like Thierry Henry. He back-heels like Eric Cantona and converts penalties like Mario Balotelli. Falcao is a scorer of great goals, as his bicycle-kick collection suggests, and also a great goalscorer, as his prodigious tally with Porto, Atlético Madrid and Monaco highlights. Falcao has all the qualities to light up the Premier League"

 

[united_99]

From t'other thread, posted in Spring of 2013.



With all the shit Rooney gets over his first touch on here, you'd have to wonder if Falcao will soon be attracting the same ire.

No, what you'd have to wonder is if you are going to try your best to find anything negative to say about Falcao as soon as he outperforms Rooney (just like you have been doing with RvP).

Oh and I know you haven't watched Atletico much, at least I hope so, otherwise it would be very hard to believe how little you rated Costa, calling him a one season wonder and comparing him with some other average one season wonders.

So just for you: Simeone's Atletico are a defensive team, the strikers have to control long or difficult balls a lot of time. It's therefore also very difficult for strikers of such teams to impress as they are easy to defend against (compared to an attack which has at least 3-4 attackers rushing to the box all the time). This actually makes Falcao's and Costa's record with Atletico even more impressive.
Anyway, a Barca striker for example will hardly have such bad stats as the ball will be passed to him from 5 yards or via a delicious Iniesta or Xavi through ball which is easy to control, rather than the crosses and long balls Atletico play.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

A bit like Hernandez in his first season for us - we could all tell he had the first touch and technique of a paraplegic seal, but we didn't care because he was banging them in left, right and centre.

Actually, Hernandez had an incredible first touch when he was on top of his game. Remember the game where Giggs pinged a long lofted ball forwards and he killed it dead, before despatching it with his next touch. Think it was against Preston, on a really muddy pitch?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

No, what you'd have to wonder is if you are going to try your best to find anything negative to say about Falcao as soon as he outperforms Rooney (just like you have been doing with RvP).

Oh behave. Last season Welbeck arguably out-performed Rooney (in the games he played up front) Have I been doing my best to say something negative about him?

Maybe, just maybe, I call it how I see it and Rooney actually did outperform Van Persie last season? (something which the stats seem to confirm)

Oh and I know you haven't watched Atletico much, at least I hope so, otherwise it would be very hard to believe how little you rated Costa, calling him a one season wonder and comparing him with some other average one season wonders.

So just for you: Simeone's Atletico are a defensive team, the strikers have to control long or difficult balls a lot of time. It's therefore also very difficult for strikers of such teams to impress as they are easy to defend against (compared to an attack which has at least 3-4 attackers rushing to the box all the time). This actually makes Falcao's and Costa's record with Atletico even more impressive.
Anyway, a Barca striker for example will hardly have such bad stats as the ball will be passed by him from 5 yards or via a delicious Iniesta or Xavi through ball which is easy to control, rather than the crosses and long balls Atletico play.

No, I haven't watched Atletico much. Saw enough of them in the Europa league to think Falcao was a brilliant player, though. Which is why the first touch stat was a little surprising. Hence, I posted it. You need to stop looking for agendas in everything I post. It comes across as slightly paranoid,

 

[Raul Madrid]

Benzema has scored like 2 in 16 now. And Perez didn't still buy a forward.

It could change, but apparently Perez doesn't think he'd fit in with Ronaldo and Bale. Which Benzema does.

Benzemas role in the team is not all about goals. His role is somewhat similar to rooneys when Ronaldo was in the team. He is the third goal-scorer of the team after Ronaldo and then bale. That was also the case when both him and higuain where in the team and benzema was played on the right. Benzemas job is to draw defenders away by making runs to provide space for Ronaldo and bale as well as to drop deeps to dictate play and play one-twos to put the other forwards through. If he was the main goal-scorer in a team he could score 30 goals (heck he still managed that in 11/12). With that said, if he was the main man in the team I do not think Madrid could compete with Barcelona or other elite clubs. He is a very good player but not good enough to drag a team to the top with the likes of barca and Bayern around (not many are tbf). His touch is excellent, but at times he can be nervous in the box (even though he scores many goals and some of the are absolutely fantastic goals and first-time hit volleys) and as a result is not reliable to score in crucial moments in big matches or in games where your back is up against the wall and you are not getting much chances and you need your striker to be clinical. That is why it is best to have him play for the team rather than the team play for him.

 

[united_99]

Oh behave. Last season Welbeck arguably out-performed Rooney (in the games he played up front) Have I been doing my best to say something negative about him?

Maybe, just maybe, I call it how I see it and Rooney actually did outperform Van Persie last season? (something which the stats seem to confirm)



No, I haven't watched Atletico much. Saw enough of them in the Europa league to think Falcao was a brilliant player, though. Which is why the first touch stat was a little surprising. Hence, I posted it. You need to stop looking for agendas in everything I post. It comes across as slightly paranoid,

Nope, it's you who comes across as nothing else than an agenda poster when it comes to anything related to Rooney. It's awfully predictable.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Nope, it's you who comes across as nothing else than an agenda poster when it comes to anything related to Rooney. It's awfully predictable.

Whereas your have no agenda of any kind. Interesting. Only you seem to keep dragging my thoughts on Rooney into completely unrelated discussions (see above) I guess I should be flattered to have someone trying to read hidden messages into everything I post but it does come across as a little paranoid. Try and take each post at face value. See how that works? Would have saved me some typing in this thread, that's for sure.

 

[united_99]

Whereas your have no agenda of any kind. Interesting. Only you seem to keep dragging my thoughts on Rooney into completely unrelated discussions (see above) I guess I should be flattered to have someone trying to read hidden messages into everything I post but it does come across as a little paranoid. Try and take each post at face value. See how that works? Would have saved me some typing in this thread, that's for sure.

Nope, I don't have an agenda. I think RvP is the better player, but I have critisized him a lot here and have defended Rooney when I felt the critics were unjustified. Whereas as far as you are concerned, I can't remember you having anything negative to say about Rooney, even after piss poor performances from him.

 

[Kill 'em all]

Still can't believe we've signed Falcao.

 

[Adzzz]

So the Falcao transfer has only served to highlight how Eric the King is still the King.

Good stuff.

 

[J-Stander]

Our aimless crosses into the box might actually pay off this season. Watching a few videos of him, he just seems to fling his head at anything.

 

[united_99]

Our aimless crosses into the box might actually pay off this season. Watching a few videos of him, he just seems to fling his head at anything.

Yep, if he shows anything close to his old form, then Valencia and Young will have around 15 assists each

 

[bishblaize]

I thought they only had 3 million to play with or they'd get further shafted by FFP?

@Adam-Utd We have the 1st choice to buy option on him mate, but with 50 million being the reported fee, would you want to pay that for a 29 year old?

That's City for you. Frugal.

 

[Kill 'em all]

Some of you make it sound like he had some career ending injury or something like that. Science isn't what it used to be 20 years ago, players recover from ACL and regain their top form if they're given the right amount of time to heal and are not rushed back in to the game. He's still 28 and as a striker he still has the best years ahead of him. He should be approaching his peak soon enough and I'm certain we will enjoy a Falcao in his greatest condition.