Red alert?
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Not recently, I've been too busy! I will tag you whenever I get back into it though.
So what happens once we decide we're not buying him? Will he be benched for the rest of the season?
He will be vital against teams like Chelsea,City and Arsenal
Please elaborate.
He knows how to hustle for the ball, and against the big teams who aren't conservative he will be provided with more space to penetrate, well thats if Chelsea don't park the bus.
Well I agree but that's all about the theory. There was a lot of teams who were not conservative against us at all, and we didn’t manage to hurt them anyway.
That’s not the point though, I just wonder what will happen to him LvG decides he’s gone in the summer. So far he seems to be a starter.
To penetrate? He's as slow as a snail. He won't be bursting into any open space anytime soon.
I feel like LVG is basically playing both strikers to squeeze as much goals out from them as he possibly can, and sometimes it works, despite their mediocre performances .. RVP and Falcao still manage to get lucky goals or assists, it also doesn't help that our midfielders haven't been consistent as a unit, leaving people to question their abilities to supply the strikers with good balls, i feel like if our midfielders step up and become consistent then LVG would have to demote one of the strikers to the bench.
He isn't slow, at least not in every game, granted he looked very slow against West Ham but that was just a bad game, he wasn't slow against Leicester infact he was able to score because of his pace, he can be quite fast off the ball aswell, if you watch the highlights of our previous games you would see that.
His woeful first touch isn't just post injury rustiness. This is from his last season with Atléti:
Would be interesting to see a poll now on if we should keep him or not.
Looked like he had aged a bit in the West Ham game, now we have proof.
When they are both on form I would agree, but RVP looks like a player in decline, Rooney gives 100% (most of the time) and would relish a striking role again-----let him loose on Burnley an see !
Which shows that it's not really a detriment to his game. How many goals did he score in that season?
He's lost pace since that season/injury though, and that is making a difference to the chances he gets on the end of.
And when you're already not the fastest, losing that half a yard and then turning up at the PL perhaps in hindsight isn't the wisest move.
His shooting also seems far less powerful than it previously was, though perhaps I'm wrong on that.
He scored 28 that season. 8 were penalties.
Penamel Falcao.
We now have a version of that Falcao, who with a fraction of the goals has the same shitty first touch.
He was the focal point of that team. It was a team set up to supply him (then Costa when he left). He won't ever be that here given he's probably got another three months or so of playing second fiddle to RvP. We can't expect that horrific first touch to improve. Yet the balance of our team can improve by dropping Falcao who is unlikely to be here next season, putting our captain back in his favoured position (behind RvP) and playing an actual midfielder (or Fellaini
) with Blind in midfield.Well, it doesn't help. Especially seeing as he has since lost his place and isn't taking his chances.
We now have a version of that Falcao, who with a fraction of the goals has the same shitty first touch.
He was the focal point of that team. It was a team set up to supply him (then Costa when he left). He won't ever be that here given he's probably got another three months or so of playing second fiddle to RvP. We can't expect that horrific first touch to improve. Yet the balance of our team can improve by dropping Falcao who is unlikely to be here next season, putting our captain back in his favoured position (behind RvP) and playing an actual midfielder (or Fellaini
I'd play Falcao ahead of RVP on this season's form. It's tricky, though. He's not looked worth the 40m to sign him permanently so we probably need to focus on a future without him. I also think we should focus on a future without RvP but that's a whole new can of worms. Where does he go and who do we replace him with? Feck knows the answer to those questions so might as well keep playing him for now.
If he has lost his pace I'm sure the club are aware. They'll have metrics. The finishing will come once he starts playing with confidence again. Time is running out though. Of course, it will be a pain in the hole if he starts banging them in again for someone else next season.
It will be of course, but we can only judge on what he does for us this season. And so far it's very far off being enough.
I have a nasty feeling we will sign him regardless of how he does in the next few months.
van Gaal must already know that we aren't going to sign him. I feel like I already know it. I've also accepted that despite van Persie's shortcomings he has one quality which means LvG wont drop him, and that's his hold up play. I can't be bothered to dig out the quotes but I'm pretty sure LvG described him as a 'focal point' or something earlier in the season and talked about his ability to bring team mates into play. Rooney and Falcao don't hold up the ball as well which is why Falcao tends to play as the deeper of the two (despite RvPs all round play being better imo). But as we are unlikely to be keeping him next season and the fact that RvP is undroppable to LvG (rightly or wrongly) I'd rather we cut our losses and play the best balanced team.
I agree with you on planning for a future without both. I'm sure LvG is thinking similarly given his attempt to play Di Maria up top for his pace, even though I was a bit annoyed with that as he was the one who sanctioned the sale of Welbeck (our pace up front).
I'd rather give Wilson game time ahead of Falcao to try and see if he has it.
Falcao just isn't going to work. A failed experiment.
Falcao just isn't going to work. A failed experiment.
I think his price might be renegotiated down in the summer. I wouldn't mind him for £25million ish, mostly due to the fact there isn't really anyone better we could realistically get, but many believe we don't need another striker anyway and wouldn't bother replacing him.
There's probably about 20 strikers better in the PL alone, surely we could get at least half of them?
Well that's not true, The only strikers better than Falcao in the prem are Aguero, Costa, RVP, Strurridge?, Kane(Should I be mentioning him?), Rooney and other then maybe Kane, I can't see us getting any of them.
Even West Brom apparently want £22million for Berahino lol
If we're talking 'old' Falcao, then yes. But this current version, well sadly there are tons of better strikers right now (some not particularity special themselves either in all honesty). The likes of Berahino, Ings, Austin, Remy, Sterling, Giroud, Pelle just off the top of my head are all playing at a much much higher level then Falcao. Even Defoe has come back into the league and already scored 2 goals.
Don't send him any cake.
Which old Falcao? He was a europa league star, not a CL great. He's in his late twenties and didn't play for a really big club, and the Spanish club he played for had it's biggest succes without him, as did his national team.
That's not really surprising because it's a 'high maintenance' striker. He needs a lot of service, and contributes little to the service to others. 20 goals is not really a lot for a striker who's only job is to run for his own chances and score goals. His first touch statistic shows his technique isn't that great. It has always been very optimistic to think of him as a world class striker with adequate hold-up play. It's the kind of striker who looks very good when one watches clips of his goals.
Ando knicked them all when he left.
That's the thing, though. This Falcao simply isn't as effective as even someone like Berahino. We can hope that he might suddenly burst into life, but right now there are a lot of players who are much more effective than him. Off the top of my head I honestly don't think we'd be at all worse off if we had any one of:
Remy
Welbeck
Dzeko
Jovetic
Pelle
Sahko
Valencia
Lukaku
and that's without even mentioning the really good strikers. Pedigree is all well and good, but without performances it's not worth much.
Austin, Berahino, Remy, Pelle, Dzecko, Welbeck, Sahko, Ings, Giroud, are all better strikers at present.
Maybe I have too many memories of his game vs us and general Atletico goals. I always had him down as a world class striker though, and stand by that sentiment of his Porto and Atletico days.
I wouldn't change Falcao for Lukaku. He was brilliant first half last season, but this season, he's been like a version of Heskey. Big target man without technique or flair. Falcao got both flair and technique.
We don't create enough chances. I don't feel that's Falcaos or RvPs fauls alone. They had a few decent combinations against West Ham. I expect more from them, but I also expected more from the likes of Di Maria, Rooney and Januzaj.
We don't create enough chances. I don't feel that's Falcaos or RvPs fauls alone. They had a few decent combinations against West Ham. I expect more from them, but I also expected more from the likes of Di Maria, Rooney and Januzaj.
Yeah I didnt include Lukaku, im not convinced by him at all. He does something Drogba-esque once every blue moon and then has shockers the rest of the time.
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