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I would wait till his loan spell to get completed before deciding.
So who is this other young fast striker people would rather sign?
Let's have some names.
Let's have some names.
When is the latest Louis would have to decide this? If it's as late as May then let's come to a judgment in May as to whether Falcao is worth buying outright.
He's not going to magically be able to run fast. Or turn fast. That's limited by physical capabilities. He might look a yard or two sharper when he returns to full match fitness, heaven knows he'll need it.
I'll happily be proved wrong by a fit and firing Falcao but I don't think he's the player he was.
People have said for the better part of a year that we should give Fletcher time as well, but he's just not going to hack it at this level anymore and everyone could've told you that a long time ago. I'm not writing Falcao off and he's obviously good enough for the Premier League, but if we're looking at that kind of investment my money would be placed elsewhere is all I'm saying.
Talking of money is a tricky situation, we don't know what the profit or loss on him will be, his transfer fee is huge but so are his wages, probably his bonuses and also maybe even his agent's fees.
But that is part of the equation, the expense, what about the income he generates? It's tricky and no doubt requires high level finance guys to figure out, he might be very valuable if he helps us immensely increase revenue from some markets, i'm not sure how much we make from the south american market relative to the asian but it is possible the likes of Falcao and Angel di Maria will somehow help with this.
Ultimately it's an investment but not just for on the pitch but for financial performance too, of course a player should only be signed for footballing reasons but once signed we should exploit him for financial gain, also if he increases our brand's reputation in certain markets that might pay dividends for many years to come, not just how long he is at the club.
Ed Woodward I think is a finance guy, he probably knows what he is doing, and I'm sure the business has an excellent finance team there who are capable of estimating the profit or loss of Falcao compared with other players and will advise Louis van Gaal on ultimately how big of a financial risk it is, I'm sure Louis van Gaal would be interested in how this signing could impact future transfer budgets.
If the rumours are true about Ed Woodward wanting to splash more cash, I wouldn't be surprised, certain expensive players somehow probably can financially benefit the club as opposed to hinder it. The Glazers were accused of not spending and now they are praised for it but it's possible the spending will be strategic and incentive given to the manager (more future transfer funds) to spend on those players that are likely to be a profitable investment.
I'm happy with our board because I think they are excellent, one of the best in football and I think they have been quite creative in their attempts to increase revenue, I'm sure they will have studied the pros and cons of a variety of transfer strategies from the frugality of Dortmund to the extravagance of Madrid, they will have their own vision of what is the most effective way to approach this.
But that is part of the equation, the expense, what about the income he generates? It's tricky and no doubt requires high level finance guys to figure out, he might be very valuable if he helps us immensely increase revenue from some markets, i'm not sure how much we make from the south american market relative to the asian but it is possible the likes of Falcao and Angel di Maria will somehow help with this.
Ultimately it's an investment but not just for on the pitch but for financial performance too, of course a player should only be signed for footballing reasons but once signed we should exploit him for financial gain, also if he increases our brand's reputation in certain markets that might pay dividends for many years to come, not just how long he is at the club.
Ed Woodward I think is a finance guy, he probably knows what he is doing, and I'm sure the business has an excellent finance team there who are capable of estimating the profit or loss of Falcao compared with other players and will advise Louis van Gaal on ultimately how big of a financial risk it is, I'm sure Louis van Gaal would be interested in how this signing could impact future transfer budgets.
If the rumours are true about Ed Woodward wanting to splash more cash, I wouldn't be surprised, certain expensive players somehow probably can financially benefit the club as opposed to hinder it. The Glazers were accused of not spending and now they are praised for it but it's possible the spending will be strategic and incentive given to the manager (more future transfer funds) to spend on those players that are likely to be a profitable investment.
I'm happy with our board because I think they are excellent, one of the best in football and I think they have been quite creative in their attempts to increase revenue, I'm sure they will have studied the pros and cons of a variety of transfer strategies from the frugality of Dortmund to the extravagance of Madrid, they will have their own vision of what is the most effective way to approach this.
The loan was a fantastic idea. Class player who brought a lift to Old Trafford and the fans. Hes shown how much he can contribute with his goals and assists in the games hes been involved in and thats no where near 100%. Theres still half a season left for him to justify us signing him and if not, then we dont sign him. Works out great for us
So if your not fit you can still run and turn fast then? I'm not qualified to make that assessment and I suspect neither are you. Fletcher illness is completely different as was his ability to start with. I'm not sure what he is or isn't but I'm suggesting the investment has already been made. Look elsewhere if you like but 40 m buys you nothing in this market for pedigree. If you can give me even one name of a player who is available for that money, I'm all ears.....
Hold the phone, £40m doesn't buy you anyone good!?
Aside from Aguero, that'd buy you anyone else in the league.
Personally i would play with one lone striker and sign a midfielder and a Winger instead of Falcao. Therefore i would have Rooney, with RVP and Wilson as backup.
Lacazette hands down, so far this season in 19 games he has 17 goals and 6 assists in ligue 1 and he is playing really well.
He is only 23 and he is at the point in his career where he needs to Move to a bigger club he would probably cost half of what it would cost us to get Falcao.
Why spend £35mill+ on an ageing, heavily injury prone striker that may never capture his previous form. Add to that Falcaos wages will be huge too, We already have a striker that's similar to this in RVP we don't need another one. I'll be so annoyed if we do sign Falcao. It would be such a waste of money especially when there is younger talent like lacazette around.
With regards to the £40m comment, I have listed the top goalscorers of the PL this year.
Aguero
Costa
Austin
Sanchez
Cisse
All except for Aguero could be had for less than £40M.
I can do this for other leagues, but you get the drift - £40M buys you a lot these days.
Aguero
Costa
Austin
Sanchez
Cisse
All except for Aguero could be had for less than £40M.
I can do this for other leagues, but you get the drift - £40M buys you a lot these days.
Lacazette is certainly a young and exciting prospect.
Who would I rather have - Falcao or Lacazette.
Not sure.
Who would I rather have - Falcao or Lacazette.
Not sure.
For £40 million you could buy Marco Reus.
He's already horribly injury prone.
If he signed for us he'd probably die in pre season.
Good point.
Anyway, in the summer £40 million would've got us Diego Costa at half the wages Falcao bags. For instance.
Point being: £40 million isn't something you gamble away, it's what you pay for an established top player in his position.
Marca ITK José Féliz Díaz thinks we've decided to sign him permanently and Van Gaal has approved the deal.
Can just see it, scores a hat-trick against Stoke and the mood of this thread will change completely
Good, he's a fecking awesome player. He might be expensive but he guarantees class, if you've got the money, where's the sense in going for a bargain.
Can just see it, scores a hat-trick against Stoke and the mood of this thread will change completely
If he scores a hattrick tomorrow I'll be fecking dancing on the tables, nevermind this thread. I badly want the guy to succeed as he was fearsome at his best.
I really want him to do well. his style of play is exciting and he has this aura about him. He will come good but it will take some time. He will prove vital when we step back to europe. I hope he gets to play against yeovil and bang in a few goals and get some real confidence. having him in top form could see us going on another win streak. he and di maria back to full form could be like a new signing for us.
Me too, and we've got half a season to see if he can get back to his best. If he does he will be a colossal signing if the purchase option is taken up
I feel like his heart is 100% in this, almost to the point he is too desperate to prove his worth, but I love the feel of a committed player of his caliber at the club. I was excited when we made the out of the blue deal, but I agree that the club should wait until the end of the season before committing to buying him.
My biggest concern is we will keep him and RvP and not add a younger, more explosive forward to the mix to give us more variety in attack. Before anyone says Wilson I mean someone a few years older who is proven to a good degree.
My biggest concern is we will keep him and RvP and not add a younger, more explosive forward to the mix to give us more variety in attack. Before anyone says Wilson I mean someone a few years older who is proven to a good degree.
We have Van Persie and Hernandez on the books. Rooney can play up front, too (as well as Wilson). Sign a wide attacker. Di Maria can come central a bit more and Herrera and Mata are best central, too.
Lacazette has played out wide in the past, so he might be worth a shout.
Falcao is a very good player, but it's a ton of money in fee and wages, he'll be 29 in a month and we have a glut of central attacking types. Better to take a huge swing at a wider attacker like Reus, Bale or Robben or even risk it and go for Depay or another top young talent the scouts/LVG like.
Who in the league?
Every transfer is a gamble, retrospectively it's easy to say what we could have done. For example, 80m for Ronaldo now looks cheap.
Lol. What a joke like Utd would be in for Cisse or Austin. Sanchez isn't even a forward. 40m buys you nothing when your talking top draw centre forward.
I'd disagree, though it also depends on what you describe as a top draw centre forward.
As it stands, I think it's a bit unclear where Falcao is.
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We can buy back Welbeck for 50M. He is like Rooney, RVP and Falcao combined, only with more pace.
Hope this is true. feck the haters!
It's a very rushed deal in that case. Until now he's not been anywhere near worth the money we've handed him. A fair - and i mean REALLY FAIR - price for him today should be £25m!
It might be the fitness that's causing some problems for him, so if we sign him for all that money I will reserve my judgement until the season is over. I think we're heading the right way with signing only big players though. We shouldn't be behind the other top clubs when they move in that direction.
It's obvious the club don't have any question marks over his ability. We just wanted to make sure he wasn't a crock and the signs are starting to look good on that front.
Yep, further we have no idea what the fee is going to be, nor do we know what his wages will be. We have to trust the Club and the manager on this one, and so far all of LVGs signings have been a hit, or the potential to be at least.
He'll score a great header today.
Doubt it's been said, but can he do it on a cold day in Stoke?
I know form counts for a lot but if there is one foreign player who you would back doing it on a cold day at Stoke, it's probably Falcao.
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