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Got to keep him, he obviously hasn't hit the heights we may have hoped but I don't see us getting a better striker than him in the summer
 
Put in a good shift defensively and got a good reaction when he was taken off. Hopefully he keeps improving as his fitness builds.
 
If he stays fit from now until the end of the season, i think we'll sign him. He's doing the right stuff, and he will score i'm sure of it. For me, injuries were always the main cause for trepidation with his transfer.
 
If he stays fit from now until the end of the season, i think we'll sign him. He's doing the right stuff, and he will score i'm sure of it. For me, injuries were always the main cause for trepidation with his transfer.

Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?

I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!

I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.
 
Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?

I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!

I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.

The only reason he hasn't impacted like them is because he was injured. He scored two and assisted 3 in his first 5 games for us before he got injured.

He's an absolute world class talent. His fitness it the only question mark and don't worry about the £45m fee, let the money men worry about that, they will have done the figures and offset it with how much he can earn us off the field and how his status can only be good for the club image.
 
He had a lot of chances, you can't deny that, even today.

I know that it's early, it's not only the time he played, but also his roles at the beginning of the season and I did say that I do think that the goals will come, but for now he is doing what Welbeck did (and I really rate Welbeck, so it's not a complaint) instead of scoring.

Big difference. Welbeck used to get on the chances often and fail to put them away, Falcao is missing out on getting to the end of chances. Falcao doesn't have an issue with poor finishing, he has an issue with match rhythm because of fitness.
 
Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?

I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!

I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.

I don't think that's a fair comparison at all. Sanchez has 1832 minutes for Arsenal, Costa has 1572. Falcao just 450. Half of which came from the bench. To score 2 and assist 3 whilst regaining fitness and without the benefit of match momentum like the others is pretty good.

As for the game, he's getting sharper all the time. It was a clear step up from his previous performance, and i'm sure we'll see him involved again on sunday. I just don't think it's that fair to judge him against the likes of Sanchez and Costa yet, but when he has been involved he's done very well. Does that constitute laying down a huge sum like 45m for him? Again, we'll have to see how he does.

As for the Welbeck comparison by the way, 6 goals in 1652 minutes is hardly ground breaking. And that's from a guy that was gutted when he was sold.
 
He always seems on the cusp of falling over whenever someone challenges him but never quite does. A bit like Rafael.
 
It's fine playing two number 9s against a poor Newcastle side, but it isn't the way forward for us in the long run. Falcao and RvP are too slow and too similar to be troubling elite opposition - which is what our aim and direction should be.

I like Falcao, but people are going way overboard with everything he does of note. Unless he starts showing bonafide 'world beater' form, there's no way we should be paying any more than 30m for him in the summer.

I get where you're coming from and agree with you to an extend; but don't you think you're overdoing it by talking about the same issue in every single thread?
 
Big difference. Welbeck used to get on the chances often and fail to put them away, Falcao is missing out on getting to the end of chances. Falcao doesn't have an issue with poor finishing, he has an issue with match rhythm because of fitness.

Actually, this is not true about Welbeck, just look at the stats in the last season.He didn't miss many chances, the problem is that he didn't get into to many while playing as a winger, so when you miss 2 from it's actually a big deals, when you miss 6 from 9 it's still the same ratio, but you got 3 goals, which is good if it's in 3-4 games.

This season Falcao is actually missing chances (look at at the Everton game, WBA, QPR), yesterday he did not get to the ball, but he should have).

And again I know what kind of finisher he is, everybody does, so he needs to find form, but for me it's funny as LVG said Falcao gets one chance and he scores, while Welbeck doesn't, and during this season we actually got a new Welbeck (but who plays as a striker, not a winger, so gets into more chances).

Of course we all know what is Falcao probably gonna give us and yes, he is a better striker then Welbeck (or should be), but he is a better striker then most strikers today.
 
Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?.

I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!

I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.
Definitely not. And that's not a criticism of him either. He's looked quality to me so far but he is, for me, a) not playing enough/frequently enough and b) too old. If you spend 45 million on a player (if that's his pricetag) you should get a Di Maria or Sanchez at an age when they are still some way away from the years footballers tend to decline.

Having said that, from the little bit he's played, and it's hard to judge him on that, he does look a quality striker.
 
Definitely not. And that's not a criticism of him either. He's looked quality to me so far but he is, for me, a) not playing enough/frequently enough and b) too old. If you spend 45 million on a player (if that's his pricetag) you should get a Di Maria or Sanchez at an age when they are still some way away from the years footballers tend to decline.

Having said that, from the little bit he's played, and it's hard to judge him on that, he does look a quality striker.

He's 28. Di Maria's 26. Not much of a difference in this day and age, the question marks would be about the extent of his recovery from the knee injury.

My verdict so far: Not the touch of a top class striker nor the required turn of pace to get away from defenders. Could be sharpness he lacks but he just doesn't ooze class the way say someone like Di Maria or RvP does.

If he's going to score lots of goals, he's utterly, utterly dependant on good service. Play him as the frontman in a team with the likes of Di Maria and Rooney behind him and he'll obviously get you goals.

But I don't think he's the player he once was. He's working hard I'll give him that but on current evidence I would say a year on loan's good enough - get in someone younger with pace to burn to give us versatility.
 
He probably has a lot more goals to score before he'll be here next season but so far I actually enjoy watching him play, long may it continue.
 
He's 28. Di Maria's 26. Not much of a difference in this day and age, the question marks would be about the extent of his recovery from the knee injury.

My verdict so far: Not the touch of a top class striker nor the required turn of pace to get away from defenders. Could be sharpness he lacks but he just doesn't ooze class the way say someone like Di Maria or RvP does.

If he's going to score lots of goals, he's utterly, utterly dependant on good service. Play him as the frontman in a team with the likes of Di Maria and Rooney behind him and he'll obviously get you goals.

But I don't think he's the player he once was. He's working hard I'll give him that but on current evidence I would say a year on loan's good enough - get in someone younger with pace to burn to give us versatility.

He needs to get back to his best and that'l happen with game time. Before his injuries, he was probably the best no 9 in the world. Sensational player. He's lacking sharpness which is inevitable after the injury he had and his start stop stint here due to competition. His movement is on another level, strikers like him dont need brute pace.
 
the last United player i was always so desperate hoping to score in every of our game was van nistelrooy. and usually he always did.

now it's falcao.
 
The £45mil figure includes the £10mil loan fee right?.
Besides i reckon we will get him slightly cheaper, well if Madrid or no one else comes in for him. He won't be going back to Monaco, thats for sure.
 
His overall play has been impressive. But I am still waiting on him to show how clinical he actually is.
 
The £45mil figure includes the £10mil loan fee right?.
Besides i reckon we will get him slightly cheaper, well if Madrid or no one else comes in for him. He won't be going back top Monaco, thats for sure.

Yep, think the same. Unless another club comes in, if we want him, we'l get him and wont really need to pay 45mil more.
 
Actually, this is not true about Welbeck, just look at the stats in the last season.He didn't miss many chances, the problem is that he didn't get into to many while playing as a winger, so when you miss 2 from it's actually a big deals, when you miss 6 from 9 it's still the same ratio, but you got 3 goals, which is good if it's in 3-4 games.

This season Falcao is actually missing chances (look at at the Everton game, WBA, QPR), yesterday he did not get to the ball, but he should have).

And again I know what kind of finisher he is, everybody does, so he needs to find form, but for me it's funny as LVG said Falcao gets one chance and he scores, while Welbeck doesn't, and during this season we actually got a new Welbeck (but who plays as a striker, not a winger, so gets into more chances).

Of course we all know what is Falcao probably gonna give us and yes, he is a better striker then Welbeck (or should be), but he is a better striker then most strikers today.
I don't know which Welbeck you've watched last season. He missed quite a number of chances. Out of top of my head I remember when he tried to chip Neuer in a 1 on 1 situation. It was totally ridiculous and may have costed us the match.

This season Welbeck as a striker isn't proving anything either. What? 3 goals from 14 matches or something? Falcao, unfortunately, has spend most of his time here injured. The rest he has been taken off at the 60 min mark and hasn't been able to play properly. The chances he missed against WBA and QPR were not down to him at all. He hit the net, but a defender came at the last minute and saved it. That's not down to Falcao at all.
 
He's 28. Di Maria's 26. Not much of a difference in this day and age, the question marks would be about the extent of his recovery from the knee injury.

My verdict so far: Not the touch of a top class striker nor the required turn of pace to get away from defenders. Could be sharpness he lacks but he just doesn't ooze class the way say someone like Di Maria or RvP does.

If he's going to score lots of goals, he's utterly, utterly dependant on good service. Play him as the frontman in a team with the likes of Di Maria and Rooney behind him and he'll obviously get you goals.

But I don't think he's the player he once was. He's working hard I'll give him that but on current evidence I would say a year on loan's good enough - get in someone younger with pace to burn to give us versatility.
That's why I mentioned two reasons. If you're buying Fabregas for that fee at 28 then okay its worth thinking about but not if he's haf injury issues before your club and barely played at your club.

I think the 45 million is probably just a fee that's stuck. Doubt he'll actually cost so much.
 
That's why I mentioned two reasons. If you're buying Fabregas for that fee at 28 then okay its worth thinking about but not if he's haf injury issues before your club and barely played at your club.

I think the 45 million is probably just a fee that's stuck. Doubt he'll actually cost so much.

No way will be it be 45mil more unless we're fighting for his signature with a Real Madrid.

We've already paid 10mil for the loan, think it'l be another 25-30mil more tops specially considering Falcao would do his utmost to stay than go back to Monaco.
 
No way will be it be 45mil more unless we're fighting for his signature with a Real Madrid.

We've already paid 10mil for the loan, think it'l be another 25-30mil more tops specially considering Falcao would do his utmost to stay than go back to Monaco.
It just seems unnecessary to me personally when we have rvp and Rooney can play there too. Rather we spend big on a top wide player and defender.
 
It just seems unnecessary to me personally when we have rvp and Rooney can play there too. Rather we spend big on a top wide player and defender.

Depends on where LvG sees Rooney long term. The way he goes on about his qualities as a midfielder and his "lung capacity", think he might play there consistently specially now that he's been made captain. Also, if we play 2 upfront long term, we need 3 top strikers + Wilson. So if we let Falcao return, we need to buy another one.

Defender is a must, yes but wide player? Depends on whether we intend to go to a 4-2-3-1 again. With Nani coming back, we might not need another one. I think specially with our current options, the diamond should be the way forward.
 
I so desperately want him to score :lol: When RVP and Rooney are in the goals, I'm like "pass the ball to Falcao!".

His general play is fantastic - building a nice combination between him, RVP, Rooney and Mata. Add Di Maria in the mix somewhere and we have a front 5 that could match any team.

Plus, he is such a beautiful man.
 
He's stupendous. When he's fully fit and gets a run of games he'll be a 30 goal a season striker easily.

I want to keep him for the song alone. Lo lo lo lo lo lo!
 
Falcao and RvP have only been on the pitch together twice this season? Pay closer attention.

And this issue of playing two number 9s and a third striker in midfield that you're being so blasé and dismissive over right now is something you'll soon be whinging about.

Van Gaal clearly doesn't see it as RvP OR Falcao, he sees it as RvP and Falcao up front with Rooney in CM and ADM on the wing. If you can't see that yet, fair enough, but by the end of January I guarantee you more and more people will be seeing the detrimental effect that I'm talking about.

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He appears to be fitting into the team very well. Nice assist for the first Rooney goal
 
I really enjoy watching him play - he's already my new favorite player! However, I would be vary of paying 45m for a 28 year old unless that number includes the loan fee that we have already paid. Then I'd just go for it and Falcao could eventually replace RvP as our experienced striker.
 
Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?

I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!

I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.

He's got 3 assists and 2 goals in 420 minutes whilst coming back from a horrific injury and settling into a new team and league. What more do you want from him? At least wait till he's back to full fitness and has settled in a bit more before you start dishing out the criticism on him.
 
Do people really have to keep banging on incessantly about wether or not Falcao has shown enough 'thus far' to warrant us paying his fee? He's only has a few games, give him a chance. He's certainly shown that he still has quality, only question is what level of fitness he can achieve.
 
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