If he stays fit from now until the end of the season, i think we'll sign him. He's doing the right stuff, and he will score i'm sure of it. For me, injuries were always the main cause for trepidation with his transfer.
Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?
I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!
I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.
Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.
You must be suffering from the ol latin crush! Brown sugar.He's probably my third favorite player (after De Gea and Rafael) despite being here for only 2 minutes. Terrific attitude and a great player.
He had a lot of chances, you can't deny that, even today.
I know that it's early, it's not only the time he played, but also his roles at the beginning of the season and I did say that I do think that the goals will come, but for now he is doing what Welbeck did (and I really rate Welbeck, so it's not a complaint) instead of scoring.
Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?
I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!
I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.
Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.
It's fine playing two number 9s against a poor Newcastle side, but it isn't the way forward for us in the long run. Falcao and RvP are too slow and too similar to be troubling elite opposition - which is what our aim and direction should be.
I like Falcao, but people are going way overboard with everything he does of note. Unless he starts showing bonafide 'world beater' form, there's no way we should be paying any more than 30m for him in the summer.
Big difference. Welbeck used to get on the chances often and fail to put them away, Falcao is missing out on getting to the end of chances. Falcao doesn't have an issue with poor finishing, he has an issue with match rhythm because of fitness.
Definitely not. And that's not a criticism of him either. He's looked quality to me so far but he is, for me, a) not playing enough/frequently enough and b) too old. If you spend 45 million on a player (if that's his pricetag) you should get a Di Maria or Sanchez at an age when they are still some way away from the years footballers tend to decline.Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?.
I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!
I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.
Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.
Definitely not. And that's not a criticism of him either. He's looked quality to me so far but he is, for me, a) not playing enough/frequently enough and b) too old. If you spend 45 million on a player (if that's his pricetag) you should get a Di Maria or Sanchez at an age when they are still some way away from the years footballers tend to decline.
Having said that, from the little bit he's played, and it's hard to judge him on that, he does look a quality striker.
He's 28. Di Maria's 26. Not much of a difference in this day and age, the question marks would be about the extent of his recovery from the knee injury.
My verdict so far: Not the touch of a top class striker nor the required turn of pace to get away from defenders. Could be sharpness he lacks but he just doesn't ooze class the way say someone like Di Maria or RvP does.
If he's going to score lots of goals, he's utterly, utterly dependant on good service. Play him as the frontman in a team with the likes of Di Maria and Rooney behind him and he'll obviously get you goals.
But I don't think he's the player he once was. He's working hard I'll give him that but on current evidence I would say a year on loan's good enough - get in someone younger with pace to burn to give us versatility.
The £45mil figure includes the £10mil loan fee right?.
Besides i reckon we will get him slightly cheaper, well if Madrid or no one else comes in for him. He won't be going back top Monaco, thats for sure.
I don't know which Welbeck you've watched last season. He missed quite a number of chances. Out of top of my head I remember when he tried to chip Neuer in a 1 on 1 situation. It was totally ridiculous and may have costed us the match.Actually, this is not true about Welbeck, just look at the stats in the last season.He didn't miss many chances, the problem is that he didn't get into to many while playing as a winger, so when you miss 2 from it's actually a big deals, when you miss 6 from 9 it's still the same ratio, but you got 3 goals, which is good if it's in 3-4 games.
This season Falcao is actually missing chances (look at at the Everton game, WBA, QPR), yesterday he did not get to the ball, but he should have).
And again I know what kind of finisher he is, everybody does, so he needs to find form, but for me it's funny as LVG said Falcao gets one chance and he scores, while Welbeck doesn't, and during this season we actually got a new Welbeck (but who plays as a striker, not a winger, so gets into more chances).
Of course we all know what is Falcao probably gonna give us and yes, he is a better striker then Welbeck (or should be), but he is a better striker then most strikers today.
That's why I mentioned two reasons. If you're buying Fabregas for that fee at 28 then okay its worth thinking about but not if he's haf injury issues before your club and barely played at your club.He's 28. Di Maria's 26. Not much of a difference in this day and age, the question marks would be about the extent of his recovery from the knee injury.
My verdict so far: Not the touch of a top class striker nor the required turn of pace to get away from defenders. Could be sharpness he lacks but he just doesn't ooze class the way say someone like Di Maria or RvP does.
If he's going to score lots of goals, he's utterly, utterly dependant on good service. Play him as the frontman in a team with the likes of Di Maria and Rooney behind him and he'll obviously get you goals.
But I don't think he's the player he once was. He's working hard I'll give him that but on current evidence I would say a year on loan's good enough - get in someone younger with pace to burn to give us versatility.
That's why I mentioned two reasons. If you're buying Fabregas for that fee at 28 then okay its worth thinking about but not if he's haf injury issues before your club and barely played at your club.
I think the 45 million is probably just a fee that's stuck. Doubt he'll actually cost so much.
It just seems unnecessary to me personally when we have rvp and Rooney can play there too. Rather we spend big on a top wide player and defender.No way will be it be 45mil more unless we're fighting for his signature with a Real Madrid.
We've already paid 10mil for the loan, think it'l be another 25-30mil more tops specially considering Falcao would do his utmost to stay than go back to Monaco.
It just seems unnecessary to me personally when we have rvp and Rooney can play there too. Rather we spend big on a top wide player and defender.
Falcao and RvP have only been on the pitch together twice this season? Pay closer attention.
And this issue of playing two number 9s and a third striker in midfield that you're being so blasé and dismissive over right now is something you'll soon be whinging about.
Van Gaal clearly doesn't see it as RvP OR Falcao, he sees it as RvP and Falcao up front with Rooney in CM and ADM on the wing. If you can't see that yet, fair enough, but by the end of January I guarantee you more and more people will be seeing the detrimental effect that I'm talking about.
Do you really think that what he showed today, and has shown thus far merits a £45m transfer...?
I'm not meaning to sound sarcastic with that - I like Falcao and I want him to succeed here. But I really think he's going to have to show a lot more than this. I mean, Diego Costa went for 30m, Sanchez for 35m and so Falcao needs to be having that kind of impact!
I don't really think thus far he's offered much more than Welbeck would've done if we'd kept him. That's not to say I don't think Falcao's a superior talent - his career thus far shows that he is - but the PL is a fast, physical league and we saw with, say, Shevchenko at Chelsea, being class through your whole career doesn't mean that you'll adapt to the Prem.
Hopefully I'm wrong and he goes on a mental scoring run soon. But like I said before, the type of impact he needs to be having to merit a 45m transfer is a Costa/Sanchez type impact.