Quiet Old Trafford

pocco said:
The atmosphere is far worse now than it was under Fergie and for a few years after. It was bad then but its chronic now, you can feel the apathy in the ground. I said to somebody during the City game that it was dead and felt like a pre season game. I've not noticed it ever being that bad against City at home before.
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Atmosphere under Ole (at times) was the best it's been since about 2008 IMO.

I've not been this year so can't comment but the atmosphere generally like all home stadiums in the UK has been pretty much entirely reliant on the feel around the team. It's rock bottom right now = atmosphere shit.
 
pocco said:
The atmosphere is far worse now than it was under Fergie and for a few years after. It was bad then but its chronic now, you can feel the apathy in the ground. I said to somebody during the City game that it was dead and felt like a pre season game. I've not noticed it ever being that bad against City at home before.
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Post 99, the "average" has always been poor. The good football largely distracted from the changes in fan culture. Fans got lazy and it's very difficult to reignite that same passion in the average fan that goes through the turnstiles.

Apathy probably won in 2005 when the Glazers took over and some of the "hardcore" left without being replaced.

It probably has got worse since Fergie left but that's probably down to, again, 10 more years of price increases and over zealous policing. It would have been rubbish even with him as manager.

All that being said, OT is still the best in England when it wants to be. One of my final games before I stopped going regularly was the Liverpool 3-0 defeat in 2014. The way Old Trafford stood as one that day and sung in defiance despite being battered by a rival was a thing of beauty.
 
Old Trafford has never had the best atmosphere bar really special nights. Not in my lifetime, anyway. Our away fans are the best, though.

Old Trafford's atmosphere is especially noticeable in Europe. At home, when we have possession, away teams whistle the hell out of us whilst we're pretty silent in and out of possession. You'd think we were the away team in our European games.
 
I think most grounds have pretty shit home fans now - especially in England. Bar big games.
Old trafford has the issue of being the biggest - meaning more hardcore away fans and more prawn sandwich brigade home fans.
 
Our fans without doubt are the best out there but the culture at Man utd stinks and so does the atmosphere at OT as a result.

Until we see players giving absolutely everything for the shirt and displaying passion/drive/will to win the good times will never return.

We need to change the culture, out with the pre-madonnas, the social media crew, the overpaid arrogant strollers, inconsistent performers etc
Bring some identity and passion back to the playing staff and give the crowd something to get behind and be proud of.
 
yamo123x said:
Our fans without doubt are the best out there but the culture at Man utd stinks and so does the atmosphere at OT as a result.

Until we see players giving absolutely everything for the shirt and displaying passion/drive/will to win the good times will never return.

We need to change the culture, out with the pre-madonnas, the social media crew, the overpaid arrogant strollers, inconsistent performers etc
Bring some identity and passion back to the playing staff and give the crowd something to get behind and be proud of.
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On pitch performances have almost zero impact on the atmosphere at 90% of matches.

As I said earlier on the thread, wider factors have killed football fan culture in this country.

We were probably the 2nd best team in the world when Roy Keane gave us the prawn sandwich comment.

We were three months off becoming European champions in 2008 when Fergie criticised the atmosphere at OT.
 
Decent atmosphere at the start of the game and most of the first half, Extra Time wasn't bad, Amad scoring was just madness, haven't really felt anything like that since Owen scored against City in the derby.
 
Must a few annoyed supporters stuck outside the ground after walking out early though :lol:
 
hp88 said:
Decent atmosphere at the start of the game and most of the first half, Extra Time wasn't bad, Amad scoring was just madness, haven't really felt anything like that since Owen scored against City in the derby.
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I was in J stand and thought it was class full stop, bar an obvious 25 mins second half - but that's football
 
Steve Bruce said:
What are the scousers complaining about in regards to chants before the game?
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Murderers, never your fault etc.. the feckers should be more concerned about chucking flares into the disabled section though.
 
Utd heap said:
I was in J stand and thought it was class full stop, bar an obvious 25 mins second half - but that's football
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Different dynamic than usual with the big Scouse allocation right above us - 1st half good, 2nd half bit of a struggle and then bang on most of ET with absolute bedlam at the end of course

Not had a match like that for a long time, can't remember ever winning a game at OT in extra time in fact
 
Anyone know what the weird noise is from the South Stand
 
hp88 said:
Murderers, never your fault etc.. the feckers should be more concerned about chucking flares into the disabled section though.
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Not that I am condoning any of such chants, but isn’t “Murderers” in reference to Heysel rather than Hillsborough? Forgive my ignorance.
 
The atmosphere was brilliant early in the first half, poor in the 2nd. The noise from the goals seemed outrageous on Tele.
 
Client6 said:
Not that I am condoning any of such chants, but isn’t “Murderers” in reference to Heysel rather than Hillsborough? Forgive my ignorance.
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Yeah, kind of.

The "Sun was right, you're murderers" is a more direct reference to Hillsborough. So grim. We lose any right to moan about Munich stuff when we sing that.

The You'll never get a job chant is proper grim aswell. Especially at the moment with so many struggling.
 
There is the predicament, for all Old Traffords flaws a new stadium probably wont drum up that atmosphere
 
JJ12 said:
The atmosphere was brilliant early in the first half, poor in the 2nd. The noise from the goals seemed outrageous on Tele.
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There was an inevitable lull when our performance dipped - these things feed off each other. It wasn't death silent or anything though, not not comparable ot the first half.

After Antony scored though, the atmosphere was electric, and you can't say it didn't contribue to that frantic ending.
 
Herman Toothrot said:
The fans were the only people having a worse game than the players in the second half.
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I understand that fans lift the players but i think everyone feared the worst and was really deflated in the second half, especially when Liverpool kept possession for a sustained period. I won't say there was a lack of fight but nothing much was going right until that Antony goal and then the team and fans were galvanized.
 
matherto said:
Wasn't just before it was all through unfortunately.

We need to stop the 'Murderers' chant. It was the majority of the stadium as well.
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There was too many singing it but it's not the majority of the stadium, not least because the majority don't sing at all nowadays
 
The only game i recall for atmosphere equal to yesterday was the Barca semi final in 2008.

I can imagine though the derby when Owen scored was probably similar to yesterday

the noise at the end of the game was just unbelievable. It was just bedlam and pandemonium everywhere you looked

It was honestly a privilege to be there and feel lucky to have been there.

They will be talking about that game 30 years from now
 
Rood said:
There was supposed to be some kind of protest in South Stand as some are being relocated - didn't know if it was about that or the just the shock of any atmosphere there

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cd14x3wdw97o
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I got moved into South Stand from upper East due to the vermin being there. Loads who don't normally sit there were in South hence the improved atmosphere - plus it being 'them' obviously helps. Kept getting told to sit down by the regulars :lol:

Saw McClair just swanning around on the concourse looking a bit merry with a hairband in his long grey hair. He is literally living the dream.
 
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