Preseason Tour Game 1: Man Utd vs Club America (Friendly, Friday 20th July 03:00 BST)

abdo99 said:
A Pereira should be ahead of McTominay and Herrera when everyone is available. And occasionally fill in for Matic as well. He is one of the few players we have that can keep the ball.
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Bizarre post then I read that you didn't watch the match. Actually, if you watched him for Valencia, Andreas wasn't that good at keeping possession. Certainly nowhere near the standard of Herrera, McTominay etc as a central midfielder. Pereira has talent but has yet to put it all together, or find a position that he can perform in at a reasonably high level.

McTominay was the best of the three. Herrera good header that hit the post from which Mata scored the rebound, due largely to a goal-keeping error, but otherwise Ander was a bit careless. Andreas' passing was largely unadventurous, didn't dictate the game in the way that might have been expected. All were ok rather than particularly good or bad.
 
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kundalini said:
Bizarre post then I read that you didn't watch the match. Actually, if you watched him for Valencia, Andreas wasn't that good at keeping possession. Certainly nowhere near the standard of Herrera, McTominay etc as a central midfielder. Pereira has talent but has yet to put it all together, or find a position that he can perform in at a reasonably high level.
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I watched his highlights and he kept it well and showed a decent technical level despite playing out of position. There's definitely something there that can be developed.
 
Haven't watched the game yet, will do after. Knew there would be people having a moan and giving low ratings on a first pre-season game of the year, against a team who are well ahead with their preparations. It is about getting fitness isn't it? Hasn't Jose said Valencia/Bailly/Smalling/Shaw will likely start the season. So this is Luke's chance to stake his claim. Although that does not sound good on the signing front.
 
abdo99 said:
I watched his highlights and he kept it well and showed a decent technical level despite playing out of position. There's definitely something there that can be developed.
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Highlight, doesn't highlight the bad thing. Pereira pretty much have C.A running around and through him all games. He has the enthiasism, but not very good tackler to stop opposition play. This is the third pre season he is tried as dlp by Mourinho. He has no right position to brag about not right position. Not wide attacker but being deployed there under different coaches. Jack of all trade as 8, and not very special as 10. Looked same players as Mourinho's first pre season.

During his loan at Granada, he shows promising picking up the ball deep and interchanging, dribbling to break the line. It looks the most solid asset he can offer for us to get. Inutes when we have everyone back.
 
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People moaning about the first preseason game of the off season when some of the players haven’t played for 2.5 months + it’s about fitness, not about smashing teams 10-0

Glad to see some youngsters get some minutes
 
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YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
No ideas in attack. A goal down, the whole team panics, because they actually have to go forward. Unfortunately, we lack our plan b Fellaini for hoofing. I already see a lot of the same shite, as last season.
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Jesus Christ. Look, I'd lost it with Jose by the end of last season, but you really want to drag the match day thread down this line of toxicity during the first preseason friendly?

Wow. Just wow.

EDIT. "No ideas in attack" - there wasn't a striker playing at this point :lol:
 
We've beaten the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid in preseasons and then gone on to have dreadful proper seasons. It means absolutely nothing. Even individual performances are meaningless. I remember Fletcher looking so good in LVG's first preseason and then completely off the pace once the actual season started.
 
The new kit makes it very hard to tell players apart. I had no idea it was Herrera who hit the post and Mata that scored. Might be just me though.
 
Haven’t seen the game or highlights but knew there might be some contention after seeing the result. :lol:

Pre season means literally nothing guys. Fcuk sake we played like Barcelona in pre season under Van Gaal and it never translated to the real season.

Any of the young players do well out of interest?
 
Minimalist said:
Haven’t seen the game or highlights but knew there might be some contention after seeing the result. :lol:

Pre season means literally nothing guys. Fcuk sake we played like Barcelona in pre season under Van Gaal and it never translated to the real season.

Any of the young players do well out of interest?
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Chong did well.

Essentially set up the equalizer with a good cross.
 
Vagene said:
People moaning about the first preseason game of the off season when some of the players haven’t played for 2.5 months + it’s about fitness, not about smashing teams 10-0

Glad to see some youngsters get some minutes
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Agreed completely. A lot of teams make plenty of changes at half time during their first pre-season friendly but we didn't make too many changes due to needing most of the players who started for the first game of the season so important thing was to build up their fitness rather than that of the entire squad.

My guess is a few of the people moaning stayed up very late/woke up very early and as a result are a bit annoyed there weren't plenty of goals to show for it.
 
Dion said:
Sorry... he's just not got anything about him. His technique isn't good enough for the Premier League, he'll have a respectable career at a middling team in the Dutch league though. Groningen or Utrecht will be about his level.
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You are entitled to your opinion, it just differs to mine and that of many more qualified experts than me too. Strange, if you are right, that United are refusing to write a buy-out fee into his proposed loan spell to Valencia as they do not want to sell him. Maybe they are saving him to sell to Groningen as you say. I may be wrong, but your opinion seems to be based solely on this game and obviously doesn't extend to having watched any of his 20+ appearances for Palace last season (inc. 17 PL starts) … or his call up and two caps for the Dutch squad.
 
The meltdown and anger at a performance in our first pre-season friendly, with half the team missing is so typical of the caf. I don't know how much right this place has to mock RAWK anymore.
 
Think having the first game in Phoenix will always be difficult.

The heat is way different than what our players are used too. The mexicans live in those sort of conditions, and they're way ahead in pre season conditions.

Drawing 1-1 really isn't an awful result, I haven't seen the game yet but the lack of chemistry is no surprise. Let's not forget pre season is about fitness!.
 
Can’t really tell much from these games but I thought Demetri Mitchell had a lively first 10-15 minutes but his presence dropped dramatically thereafter and I was surprised to see Pereira playing so deep but I thought he did well, kept the Ball moving forward and I liked the look of Chong when he come on.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Think having the first game in Phoenix will always be difficult.

The heat is way different than what our players are used too. The mexicans live in those sort of conditions, and they're way ahead in pre season conditions.

Drawing 1-1 really isn't an awful result, I haven't seen the game yet but the lack of chemistry is no surprise. Let's not forget pre season is about fitness!.
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I’m sure I read that the stadium was air-conditioned?
 
Gonna watch it tonight, having seen the score nothing to really get hung up about. Like a few other posters have noted we won every game one pre season when van Gaal was in charge and then when the season started proper our start was pretty bad. I remember van Gaal trying to gloss over it by saying "Yesh but we won every match in the United States".
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I’m sure I read that the stadium was air-conditioned?
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No idea, would make sense as I think the temperatures are pretty high there all the time.

Whether it really makes a difference at pitch level though, not sure?
 
I shouldn't be surprised but the people moaning about that game are fecking pathetic. That was our first pre-season game back against a team that's on their last pre-season game and start their season next week. We lacked sharpness and fitness which is understandable. Great cameos from our young lads who came on in the 2nd half especially Chong who changed the game.
 
Hate friendlies, for me personally sport should always have a consequence and be a genuine competition and for that reason I can never get behind friendly games. I understand the whole fitness and pre-season gelling etc but I refuse to watch them.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
Hate friendlies, for me personally sport should always have a consequence and be a genuine competition and for that reason I can never get behind friendly games. I understand the whole fitness and pre-season gelling etc but I refuse to watch them.
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What was the score? What happened? The link to the highlights isn't working for me. @Chris H, where are you? You're the video version of Giflord
 
Results in the pre-season may mean feck all but i don't expect any change in our playing style or results at all this year. Our team have been depressing in the last 5 years and i don't see any reason for that to change suddenly.
 
From what I've seen in a few match highlights and what I've read I really don't see why Chong cant at least be involved in rotation for our RW spot, he seems a perfect fit to me; He's tricky, quick and has a quality cross to him. if you'll forgive me for possibly jinxing it, he reminds me of a younger Bale, mainly in his off the ball movement, from what I could see he always wanted to find space, always wanted to turn and move and even more importantly, always has his head up for a pass.

If he can continue to develop at this rate, we may not be in as much need of a RW as we thought. from what I see we have 5 wingers for 2 spots; Sanchez, Rashford, Martial, Lingard and Chong (I'm counting Gomes and more of a CAM, similar to Mata); so if we put big Rom in there we have 6 for 3 spaces. I can see us playing:

Sanchez - Rom - Rash/Martial in the premier league, with our wingers constantly switching left to right and still subbing Rashford and Martial in the game to freshen up and keep defenders worrying; maybe even bring Lingard on for Sanchez and swap the wings over if we need more energy late in a game. And then have :

Lingard, Rashford, Martial and Chong as a sub for cup games and lower league teams, with all 3 on the field switching positions and when we need full width we can go with Martial on the left, Rashford on the Right and Jesse in the middle playing as a false 9 making the same runs and getting into the same areas that he did versus Arsenal. All this allows us to keep players happy with the amount of game time, plus it means we aren't fully reliant on Rom to ply 50+ games a year.
 
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