Yeah. Plus our fullbacks when playing in a back 4 don't usually attack too much. Or just the one attacks while the winger goes inside but still leaves it with 1 wide player up against their fullback and winger helping out. Pushing the wingers high up and keeping them wide helps loads for spreading the pitch and giving the midfielders more space to work with, but also isolates the wingers. Not mourinhos style really.
Premier League Gameweek 20 (26th - 28th December 2017) - Boxing Day
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Aaaannndddd City win again.....
Pretty shite match.
Pretty shite match.
High press and hey ho, City, just like other teams make mistakes.
Constantly sitting off them and they'll kill you. Wish every team would realise this.
#ArmchairPundit.
Constantly sitting off them and they'll kill you. Wish every team would realise this.
#ArmchairPundit.
Exactly. Tracking back isn't the problem per se.
Oh well they'll lose another day.
Here's hoping.
Here's hoping.
Another dominant City victory with a narrow score margin. They will slip up, but sadly they have scraped together too many 3 points which could just as easily have been 1.
I find city very boring to watch for the most part. It's like watching van gaal football just with superior players.
Yeah, brilliant effort from Newcastle. Really looked like they gave a shit in that final 3 minutes...
0-1 seemed like an entirely unlikely result. First because City looked rampant, then because City looked wobbly.
Jeez that was extremely boring game. Full marks to city for their pragmatism but if someone tells me that city side is the most exciting think happened to PL then sod off. Boring as feck this whole possession /pass/pass crap.
Aye definitely not it's about the movement around them. Of course they should be fully expected to track back.
To be honest Shaw did some overlapping vs Burnley. Was nice to see finally.
Christ, just give them the PL trophy already. I can't stand them breaking all sorts of records. At this stage it's a question of who might be able to draw with them nevermind beating them!
Same applies to Liverpool.
They missed a lot of chances but didn't concede like we usually do in these circumstances.
These lot have almost doubled the GD!!!
We drew 2-2 at weekend in a game where the opposition had 3 shots in the whole game.
What exactly where Newcastle doing to make the game exciting? City were the protagonists trying to create plays.
Its amazing what happens when you show some fight. That bit of skill Atsu did on Sterling was amazing. Hopefully other teams realize that when you actually play hard agaisnt City, they have no answer. Very good end of 2nd half by Newcastle. Thats how you play against these Pepd up players.
You attack City press high up force them to go long and guess what you win the ball back and you can pressure them but no no lets all sit back lay down like whore and take it.
These managers are so stupid. Press the damn cnuts high up the pitch and you have a chance, every team that does it gets a chance at their goal but no lets sit off because that works
These managers are so stupid. Press the damn cnuts high up the pitch and you have a chance, every team that does it gets a chance at their goal but no lets sit off because that works
Like Napoli, Tottenham and Shakhtar? Teams have tried everything so far.
High press, mid press and using very low blocks but Manchester City have always responded.
Liverpool are the only team who can beat City in my opinion. They are the only team who will attack them and I can see Liverpool causing City problems with their high pressing. If City come out of the game at Anfield unscathed they will stay unbeaten.
15 points gab between 1st and 2nd. Feck this shite.
Worse EPL season ever.
Worse EPL season ever.
When City is low they face an even shit team it feels like everything is going their way atm, injury free more time when they need goal, but also they are very good side having a real dream season though. I think it will not be over till Guardiola leaves.
Tottenham attacked them...
Liverpool attacked them and we're 1-0 down before the Sadio Mane red card.
Spurs pressed high as well.
Precisely. It may be a controversial statement but the gulf in class between ourselves and City isn't as big as some would have you believe. They have had plenty of razor thin results and last-gasp-kick-of-the-ball victories.
Didn't Shaktar win?
Yes they were embarrassing. Thing is I have seen better teams in the past who have played much entertaining football irrespective of the opponents and they were much more entertaining than this Pep's side. This Pep side is consistent and have a solid Plan A which they have worked efficiently.
When Manchester City had nothing to play for and played with a highly changed side.
And on the other side of the pitch City will be murdering Liverpool in the open spaces ?
Liverpool were outplaying them until that point, they scored against the run of play. All the City fans I know recognise that game and those moments were the turning point in their season.
And klopp will be passionately throwing bottles everywhere and hugging and kissing pep.
Better teams in the Premier League or geternally? I'm curious what team was better than Manchester City in the premier league?
This is also taking into account that the premier league was a counter attacking league almost exclusively for its first 12 years then became extremely negative after Rafa Benitez and Jose Mourinho landed on English soil.
Teams now are better defensively and better at being more compact both vertically and horizontally. There is less space for attackers to attack.
You need a lot of luck but the reason I give Liverpool a chance is because they will come with the same approach that was giving Man City problems before Mane's red card in the last game. You can't say the same about United for example. We won't beat City with the cowardly tactics we showed a couple of weeks back.
How to beat city's game in 5 easy steps and how they relate to today's game.
Step 1: Have your own contingent of world class players. Newcastle: The City starting XI cost 2x the purchase cost of Newcastle, so 0/1
Step 2: Have your players intelligent and quick enough to move into the space left when they bring a 2nd or 3rd man to press. Newcastle: Not enough movement, no one showing for ball. 0/2
Step 3: When you do win the ball back, EVERYONE needs to move as a spring in the other direction. Newcastle: Too static/rigid. 0/3
Step 4: Don't concede. Newcastle: Did. 0/4
Step 5: Score Newcastle: Didn't. 0/5
Step 1: Have your own contingent of world class players. Newcastle: The City starting XI cost 2x the purchase cost of Newcastle, so 0/1
Step 2: Have your players intelligent and quick enough to move into the space left when they bring a 2nd or 3rd man to press. Newcastle: Not enough movement, no one showing for ball. 0/2
Step 3: When you do win the ball back, EVERYONE needs to move as a spring in the other direction. Newcastle: Too static/rigid. 0/3
Step 4: Don't concede. Newcastle: Did. 0/4
Step 5: Score Newcastle: Didn't. 0/5
How many wins in a row now?
I agree with this. I would add Spurs too though. I think those two have the highest ceiling in the PL even though they are lacking consistency wise. They can reach a level of intensity in their press and speed of passing that is higher than anyone else bar City obviously. I wouldn't go as far as say they will go unbeaten though, if they keep going in the CL, they will inevitably have a bad day if they rest players or come against a team fighting for their life.
If they get 100 points but don't go unbeaten will they get the gold premier league trophy the invincibles got?
City was defeating Liverpool before the red card anyway, because City utilized spaces present in their defense due to their strategy. Tottenham also tried to attack them and ended up getting murdered in the open spaces. They're not just a possession based team as they have enough pace up front to take benefit of any spaces in the opposition defenses.