Premier League Gameweek 17-19

Blimey, didn’t see that 2nd half demolition job from Spurs happening after a very boring, lacklustre 1st half.
 
This 'Levy is a tough negotiator ' bull crap needs to die a death.

They haven't made more than £30m for a player since Kyle Walker 5 seasons ago.

Have sold at cut price for quite a while now.
 
This 'Levy is a tough negotiator ' bull crap needs to die a death.

They haven't made more than £30m for a player since Kyle Walker 5 seasons ago.

Have sold at cut price for quite a while now.
I mean its because he often prices clubs out of a transfer. It wasn't long ago he priced a wantaway Kane out of his desperately desired move to City by asking them for something ridiculous like £150million, allegedly breaking the 'gentlemans agreement' he had with him to leave. And who could forget that they wanted something like £50million for Eric feckin Dier. There was no away we were going to continue to negotiate with Levy after he set that silly pricetag for an average player.

There's also the reason that Spurs haven't really had many players worth big money moves. Not ones that clubs would agree to paying for at least (like Kane).
 
Willy Gnonto is waaaaay too good for leeds.

I've seen him a loads of times now and he's always impressive, definately a future star.

Not sure he’s top 4 material. The technical ability isn’t top notch (he’s pretty much kick and rush). Could easily play Top 5-10 in the league and play 30/40 games
 
If we could get Kane for a not ridiculous price I'd be delighted.

He's so good, we'd win the league with him I think
Wouldn’t care how much we paid for him if he could help Utd become title challengers.
 
I mean its because he often prices clubs out of a transfer. It wasn't long ago he priced a wantaway Kane out of his desperately desired move to City by asking them for something ridiculous like £150million, allegedly breaking the 'gentlemans agreement' he had with him to leave. And who could forget that they wanted something like £50million for Eric feckin Dier. There was no away we were going to continue to negotiate with Levy after he set that silly pricetag for an average player.

There's also the reason that Spurs haven't really had many players worth big money moves. Not ones that clubs would agree to paying for at least (like Kane).
The Kane figure was perfectly fine in my eyes,

As for Dier, that was the same season they sold Walker, the last time they got full value for a player, Levy didn't want to lose another defender that year so can understand the price.

Since then, nothing major in terms of outgoings for very little return.
 
Wouldn’t care how much we paid for him if he could help Utd become title challengers.
Kane scoring but also dropping deep to set up the likes of rashford would be great
 
Blimey, didn’t see that 2nd half demolition job from Spurs happening after a very boring, lacklustre 1st half.

Palace deserved to lose after making such a mess of so many good situations in the first half. Their attacking players are the biggest bunch of flakes in the league. So skilful but not a brain between them. Although it was definitely a bit of a surprise to see their defenders out-stupid them in the second half.
 
The Kane figure was perfectly fine in my eyes,

As for Dier, that was the same season they sold Walker, the last time they got full value for a player, Levy didn't want to lose another defender that year so can understand the price.

Since then, nothing major in terms of outgoings for very little return.
No one was paying £150million for Kane, not even an oil club like City who were desperate for a CF. The player desperately wanted out, a more reasonable chairman would have compromised on a price that would have been deemed reasonable and yet close enough to their initial valuation. Levy just drew the line, told Kane to feck his gentleman's agreement (which is fair enough, that was Kane and his moronic brother's own fault for believing someone like Levy) and told City to cough up the 150 figure or do one.

Dier was a defensive mid who could play as a makeshift cb around the time we were interested, he didn't occupy Walker's position. This was Levy trying to fleece us for a Maguire-like fee.

The fact is Levy is considered an absolute nightmare to negotiate with. Its no surprise Sir Alex famously said it was more painful than to have a hip replacement than deal with him. And then there was Lyon's president (also a notoriously tough cookie) who said Levy was the hardest person to negotiate with, often claiming he'd go back on what was agreed in writing.
 
Kane scoring but also dropping deep to set up the likes of rashford would be great
He needs to be disciplined enough to stay up top if he's going to work for us. Ten Hag likes his CF to be a constant and available presence in and around the box. We don't need him dropping deep to occupy the space Bruno and Eriksen like to roam in.
 
No one was paying £150million for Kane, not even an oil club like City who were desperate for a CF. The player desperately wanted out, a more reasonable chairman would have compromised on a price that would have been deemed reasonable and yet close enough to their initial valuation. Levy just drew the line, told Kane to feck his gentleman's agreement (which is fair enough, that was Kane and his moronic brother's own fault for believing someone like Levy) and told City to cough up the 150 figure or do one.

Dier was a defensive mid who could play as a makeshift cb around the time we were interested, he didn't occupy Walker's position. This was Levy trying to fleece us for a Maguire-like fee.

The fact is Levy is considered an absolute nightmare to negotiate with. Its no surprise Sir Alex famously said it was more painful than to have a hip replacement than deal with him. And then there was Lyon's president (also a notoriously tough cookie) who said Levy was the hardest person to negotiate with, often claiming he'd go back on what was agreed in writing.

Kane is easily worth 150 million TBF. He's that good, Benzema had the best season of his career last year at 34, Lewandowski is still very effective in his mid thirties, Kane isn't old and even though he's not in his early 20's you could still get 4/5 elite seasons out of him easily
 
His career won't be complete without trophies but I don't think no trophies takes anything away from him, makes the record even more impressive imo.
It's a shame that he hasn't won anything. A great player with an under achieving club. !!
 
No one was paying £150million for Kane, not even an oil club like City who were desperate for a CF. The player desperately wanted out, a more reasonable chairman would have compromised on a price that would have been deemed reasonable and yet close enough to their initial valuation. Levy just drew the line, told Kane to feck his gentleman's agreement (which is fair enough, that was Kane and his moronic brother's own fault for believing someone like Levy) and told City to cough up the 150 figure or do one.

Dier was a defensive mid who could play as a makeshift cb around the time we were interested, he didn't occupy Walker's position. This was Levy trying to fleece us for a Maguire-like fee.

The fact is Levy is considered an absolute nightmare to negotiate with. Its no surprise Sir Alex famously said it was more painful than to have a hip replacement than deal with him. And then there was Lyon's president (also a notoriously tough cookie) who said Levy was the hardest person to negotiate with, often claiming he'd go back on what was agreed in writing.
Funny how no one has said the like in the last 5 years though.

Levy hasn't been a 'tough negotiator' for years. Most of the stories of Levy being a tough guy to deal with stem from 5/6 years ago, the Kane situation was slightly different as he's their star player, and was worth over £100m at the time.
 
Not sure he’s top 4 material. The technical ability isn’t top notch (he’s pretty much kick and rush). Could easily play Top 5-10 in the league and play 30/40 games


I don't know I mean he's only 19 so plenty of time to finesse his game.

I think hes got the attributes to become a top player his stocky build and low centre of gravity is great as he's very hard to get the ball off, the speed is just a bonus.
 
Kane is easily worth 150 million TBF. He's that good, Benzema had the best season of his career last year at 34, Lewandowski is still very effective in his mid thirties, Kane isn't old and even though he's not in his early 20's you could still get 4/5 elite seasons out of him easily
It doesn't matter if he was worth 200 if no one will pay it. He had a gentleman's agreement with Levy who decided to be a cnut and turned down a £127 million bid.
 
So do we want City to win tonight? I'm kinda leaning towards wanting a Chelsea loss since they are a threat to top 4 (depsite being off the pace currently). Maybe i'm just too used to a title challenge being out of the question.
 
Spurs away win at a Palace side who insist on trying to play pretty football doesn’t mean “Spurs are back!!!”

If anything it’s a good thing as it keeps Conte at Spurs for longer. Palace are terrible.


So do we want City to win tonight? I'm kinda leaning towards wanting a Chelsea loss since they are a threat to top 4 (depsite being off the pace currently). Maybe i'm just too used to a title challenge being out of the question.
Yes. A city win puts pressure on arsenal too.

I don’t care about City winning the league if always means nothing. But Arsenal winning it this season would hurt.
 
So do we want City to win tonight? I'm kinda leaning towards wanting a Chelsea loss since they are a threat to top 4 (depsite being off the pace currently). Maybe i'm just too used to a title challenge being out of the question.

Your more worried about a team languishing 10 pts behind us than one that's also in the top 4? I think we are all, sadly, too used to being a bit shit but that's madness.
 
So do we want City to win tonight? I'm kinda leaning towards wanting a Chelsea loss since they are a threat to top 4 (depsite being off the pace currently). Maybe i'm just too used to a title challenge being out of the question.
Draw ideal, Chelsea win is preferred, City win the less interesting for us. But we need to beat City also that they are pumped against Arsenal.
 
Spurs away win at a Palace side who insist on trying to play pretty football doesn’t mean “Spurs are back!!!”

If anything it’s a good thing as it keeps Conte at Spurs for longer. Palace are terrible.

I am sharing a secret, don’t tell anyone! Any coach out there is only as good as the worst players in his starting 11… if you put Maguire, McFred & Ronaldo back into United starting 11 then Ten Hag becomes Van Gaal 2.0.
 
Your more worried about a team languishing 10 pts behind us than one that's also in the top 4? I think we are all, sadly, too used to being a bit shit but that's madness.

Unfortunately yes, because I think us dropping off form (especially with a thin squad and no money to spend) and Chelsea picking up form, is a far more likely scenario than us overtaking City.
 
Spurs away win at a Palace side who insist on trying to play pretty football doesn’t mean “Spurs are back!!!”

If anything it’s a good thing as it keeps Conte at Spurs for longer. Palace are terrible.



Yes. A city win puts pressure on arsenal too.

I don’t care about City winning the league if always means nothing. But Arsenal winning it this season would hurt.

Yes. Agree with all of this.

Re Spurs, last night's result means nothing really. Last night's performance (in the first half) really just confirms how much trouble they're in. My only worry is what happens when Kulechevski* gets/stays fit. They're twice the team with him in the starting line-up.

*Probably spelled wrong. DGAF
 
Draw - dropped points for both, ideal.

Chelsea win - Puts them within 7 points of us, I can live with that

City win - worst, if we are trying to make a legit title challenge, which I would consider premature, city losing this game and us beating them allows us to overtake them and really puts down a marker on our progress.
 
I am sharing a secret, don’t tell anyone! Any coach out there is only as good as the worst players in his starting 11… if you put Maguire, McFred & Ronaldo back into United starting 11 then Ten Hag becomes Van Gaal 2.0.
I strongly disagree. Ten Hag is a modern, front foot manager. Conte's style would probably still suit Serie A, sure. But fans who wants exciting, attacking football don't want Conte as their head coach.

If he had the best players, he would still play 3-5-2 or whatever dinosaur stuff it is he plays.
 
He needs to be disciplined enough to stay up top if he's going to work for us. Ten Hag likes his CF to be a constant and available presence in and around the box. We don't need him dropping deep to occupy the space Bruno and Eriksen like to roam in.

Absolutely nailed it but is he capable of just staying around the box bit like Haaland does