Yeah that was fairly obvious. Their overall balance takes a big hit without him.
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It means the ball spent almost twice the amount of time in United's last third it did in Arsenal's. Which by some stantards could be considered "sitting back".
Also confirmed by the players positions : United played far lower on the pitch.
Decent side playing well for long period shock, best team won and the result spoke for itself.
Yeah, it was. With 20 minutes to go they were clearly looking like the likely winners.
Except the "stats" don't support that at all. But it's fairly normal that you don't have a comprehensive view of the game from one of the end stands.
would’ve been a travesty if West Ham got anything from this, been dreadful
Define dominated? They had the Ball mode, sure, but weren't creating clear chance after chance. We conceded territory but Eth positioned our players well to restrict them once they got into the final third.
Even their goal had an element of luck to it.
I get what you're saying with him learning from the sub error. (They gambled way too quickly too soon)
However I do think their defence can be got at (a better striker than west ham's takes one of the chances, possibly the second to make it 2-0)
But yes they deserve to be where they are
They certainly don't support us being the better side either.
Arsenal were losing at HT but always thought they'd win it in the end, they've been impressive this season and you expect them to win most of their games. Best team in the league so far this season and not sure if City will be able to catch them.
On that game vs them at OT in September - they outplayed us in large part of 2nd half and that game as a whole showed how good they've become. So difficult to beat so that was a big win for us.
On that game vs them at OT in September - they outplayed us in large part of 2nd half and that game as a whole showed how good they've become. So difficult to beat so that was a big win for us.
Yup , they dropped like a stone without him last year too.
They will have to be insanely lucky to keep him fit until the end of the season, especially with games coming thick and fast.
They do though. At that point arsenal were fsr ahead on the stats. At the end of the day your point was wrong that they didnt cause us any trouble. I think thats downplaying how good we were.
We weren't at all in control defensively during that phase.
Odegaard is sublime
Literally sat back like they're playing prime barca to try and nick one, which they did, then fell apart after the jammy goal. Joke
If the better side is the one that creates more chances (we had better xg), and scores more goals than the opponent, then yes, they do.
Arsenal played well, probably better than in a long time at OT, but we overall contained them quite easily. Having the ball and passing it around slickly isn't synonymous with domination. They were good, we were better, managed the game very well, and it was in the end one of our "easier" wins.
Odegaard! Wow
Arsenal had as many shots on target as we scored goals. And a 3-1 scoreline tends to indicate the better side won, no?
Depends what xG aggregator you're asking apparently – xG Philosophy had Arsenal ahead.
And we didn't contain them easily in the second half. We had no control over the game prior to our second goal (first half was a well-executed game plan).
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Don't think we will agree on this.
I think arsenal's performance at old Trafford was over exaggerated and some made it out like it was a smash and grab by united.
Arsenal played into our hands and I didn't see them scoring a second despite possession
Because west ham are shambles and this game is dead2 pages about the United-Arsenal game
They also had 16 shots to our 10, 61 percent possession and equal xG. We can both cherry pick stats.
We won't and that's fair. I think there's some ridiculous United blinkers on in this thread. It was, to my eyes, a tight game that could have gone either way. To suggest we won easily is extremely biased in my opinion.
I mean, sure. You can tally up corners and throw-ins if you want. But you’ll never convince anyone that a team which had twice as many shots on target and - at worst - the same xG, in a 3-1 victory was the worse team on the day.
We lost the game. Man Utd was very clinical on that day and we couldn't deal with the counter. They deserved the win.2 pages about the United-Arsenal game
I'm not necessarily saying we were worse. It just annoys me when people suggest we won easily and weren't troubled. Because that is clearly not what happened. It was a tight game between a defensive, counter-attacking team and an attacking, possession-based team. The fact that we won doesn't necessarily mean we outsmarted them or had them in our pockets. Our chances went in and theirs didn't.
Ah. Ok. Fair enough. I agree then. It was far from an easy or comfortable win.
At least half the teams in the league this season deserve to be in a relegation battle.
Jesus what’s happening here?
Arsenal didn’t have Partey, United didn’t have Casemiro. Let’s not make excuses. United ran up comfortable winners in a game literally everyone thought they’d lose.
By the end it was more likely to be 4 or 5 goals to 1 than Arsenal getting anything from the game.
Arsenal didn’t have Partey, United didn’t have Casemiro. Let’s not make excuses. United ran up comfortable winners in a game literally everyone thought they’d lose.
By the end it was more likely to be 4 or 5 goals to 1 than Arsenal getting anything from the game.
Yeah and there's reason to believe he probably shouldn't be playing at all. But that seems to have been all brushed aside.
He's been excellent for them as has Odegaard, he seems to be building up to fulfilling that ealry promise.
True however I don't think that game reflected how ETH intends to play. What it showed is the teams character and it was a Ole esque performance. Not exactly sitting deep all game but tactically the team absorbed pressure for sustained periods and killed Arsenal in the transition. I don't think the reverse fixture will play out like this however, I feel United will try and hold possession more.
I have to applaud this Arsenal team, even last season they played good stuff this is not really a shock the signs have always been there. Genuinely over the last 5 or so seasons the team which has won the league is the team that has played the best brand of football. Arsenal have that accolade, I think it's wishful thinking to anticipate them dropping off but it's not going to happen those fixtures in October won Arsenal the league. I'm standing on this opinion that the league is already decided. The standard is too high.
Yeah I won't say we won easy. I just don't think it was smash and grab
Parker looks awkward as feck.
If anyone saw what saka just said about work off the ball making you ready to be on it. That is the exact issue with Sancho and was the exact problem with rashford. Work hard off the ball and all of a sudden your awake when you have the ball.
Did Scott Parker have a stoke?
Why is his face slanted. Especially his right eyebrow being constantly higher it’s like he’s giving the side eye.
Seems really awkward too, like he’s out of his depth.
Why is his face slanted. Especially his right eyebrow being constantly higher it’s like he’s giving the side eye.
Seems really awkward too, like he’s out of his depth.
We were but Partey missing lifted us,have to say right now you lot look mentally strong despite the Jesus injury setback.
That it really even after the game I was chuffed with the win but you could tell Arsenal where way ahead in the process than us just had the silly errors of old. Up until 1-1 at OT Arsenal where all over us but got naive after which made me question them for a title challenge but they proved me wrong so far
Arsenal will win the league. City batter teams but seem more prone to brain farts
Think the four games with City & Newcastle could decide if they can stay there
Good thing about Arsenal winning the league is City won't win it 3 in a row.