Predict when we next have a normal game

Solius said:
By normal I’m saying basically a comfortable routine win, probably 2 - 0. No frills. Couple of decent goals. No red cards, no penalties. Our games are always absolutely batshit. Not counting that one game in the carabao:

Utd 1 - 0 Wolves: Ridiculously tight. Should’ve lost. Had no midfield.

Spurs 2 - 0 Utd: Lost.

Utd 3 - 2 Forest: Two goals down in ten minutes.

Arsenal 3 - 1 Utd: Could’ve won it last minute only to have a marginal VAR call reverse it and then ended up losing.

Utd 1 - 3 Brighton: Lost comfortably.

Bayern 4 - 3 Utd: Madness. Gave away a pen. Conceded 4.

Burnley 0 - 1 Utd: Extremely tight again. Needed a goal of the month winner.

Utd 0 - 1 Palace: Lost to comfortably one of the worst teams we’ve played this season.

Utd 2 - 3 Galatasaray: I still have PTSD from this game.

Utd 2 - 1 Brentford: McTominay scoring twice after 90 mins to win it.

Sheffield Utd 1 - 2 Utd: Late winner from Dalot. One goal margin again. Conceded a pen.

Utd 1 - 0 Copenhagen: Late winner and conceded a pen which is saved with the last kick of the game.

Utd 0 - 3 City: Lost.

Utd 0 - 3 Newcastle: Lost

Fulham 0 - 1 Utd: Last minute winner again.

Copenhagen 4 - 3 Utd: Monstrosity that is fresh in our minds.

Utd 1 - 0 Luton: Scraped it.

Everton 0 - 3 Utd: Garnacho scoring one of the greatest ever PL goals against the backdrop of the biggest ever PL points deduction. Far from normal game.

Gala 3 - 3 Utd: Suffering.

Newcastle 1 - 0 Utd: Lost.

Utd 2 - 1 Chelsea - Just about despite creating so many chances.

Utd 0 - 3 Bournemouth: Tragic.

Utd 0 - 1 Bayern: Still losing.

Liverpool 0 - 0 Utd: Far from normal to draw here. Plus baffling Dalot red.

West Ham 2 - 0 Utd: ....

Utd 3 - 2 Villa: Comeback from 3 goals down. We really are batshit.

Forest 2 - 1 Utd: Even our whipping boys Forest can beat us now.

Wigan 0 - 2: Lower league oppo, penalty needed to make it comfortable.

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Luton at home next. Is that too perfect of a fixture to be comfortable? Something has to go wrong surely.

Predict the next normal game please. Don’t use this to moan like a boring cnut. Plenty of other threads for that.
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This is my single biggest gripe with EtH and the reason I am reluctantly EtH out.

You could extend this to last season and you wouldn't actually see many 'routine' wins. When we do win, it's usually a tight, hard-fought victory against massively inferior opposition. When we lose, we get absolutely tanked/embarrassed.

It shouldn't be like that. Regardless of what people think of our individuals, far weaker squads/teams don't make such hard work of winning literally any game at all. Far weaker squads/teams are capable of playing away from home vs decent opposition and making a fist of it.
 
Lentwood said:
This is my single biggest gripe with EtH and the reason I am reluctantly EtH out.

You could extend this to last season and you wouldn't actually see many 'routine' wins. When we do win, it's usually a tight, hard-fought victory against massively inferior opposition. When we lose, we get absolutely tanked/embarrassed.

It shouldn't be like that. Regardless of what people think of our individuals, far weaker squads/teams don't make such hard work of winning literally any game at all. Far weaker squads/teams are capable of playing away from home vs decent opposition and making a fist of it.
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This is the reality. We all would love ETH to succeed. But the bare minimum is to play good, attacking football. I can count on one hand the number of times ETH has delivered this. As the list of matches show, we rely on last minute goals and wonder goals to bail us out. We should have lost several matches to lower teams and its only the fact that we have such an expensively assembled squad with some undoubtedly talented players that bail us out. It was exactly the same for periods under Ole. There is no clear system evident, and what is evident is just really, really dull.
 
Looking at the fixtures it could well be March before the next ‘routine’ win - Everton or sheff United.
 
Wolves (A), Luton (A) and Fulham (H) are decent options for this. Especially if we can get some players back.
 
Gordon Godot said:
This is the reality. We all would love ETH to succeed. But the bare minimum is to play good, attacking football. I can count on one hand the number of times ETH has delivered this. As the list of matches show, we rely on last minute goals and wonder goals to bail us out. We should have lost several matches to lower teams and its only the fact that we have such an expensively assembled squad with some undoubtedly talented players that bail us out. It was exactly the same for periods under Ole. There is no clear system evident, and what is evident is just really, really dull.
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It was actually much better under Ole. For long periods of time it was relatively enjoyable and we did play some good football.

Clearly the end-goal is to win trophies, so I don't want to be misunderstood when I say people were a little blinded by EtH winning the League Cup but it banked him plenty of credit despite our very soft run to the final.

Similarly the stick used to beat Ole was his lack of a trophy, but we got to an FA Cup semi-final and a Europa League final and so we're talking small margins.

Ole's problem was the same problem we had under Jose. Trying to sprint right after we'd learnt to walk, in our desperation to not be outshone by City. If Ole had continued his feel-good man-management style and best-of-British transfer policy (for the most part) I think we'd be in a much, much better position now. Unfortunately we tried to take shortcuts again with the likes of Varane and Ronaldo and it all imploded.

Sounds like I'm making the case for Ole still to be manager now! I'm not...but interesting how the two are both perceived on here.
 
thisisnottaken1 said:
I would hope that our game against Eastleigh or Newport will be routine. It should be, but knowing us it won’t.
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In a long history of FA cup shocks, us losing against either of those would be the least shocking shock ever. Feels like an accident waiting to happen and an opportunity for us to set a new record of some kind, we’ve been great at that recently.
 
Can’t wait for the score to be 2-2 in this game
 
2-2 by the 80th minute?
 
The only caveat is losing our best defender to a freak knee injury but yes :lol:
 
Enjoyed that abnormal game.

3--0 at home to a top 10 team, it's the closest we've come in a while. Could've reduced them to less shots and had more possession but after our showings this season that was great.
 
Should play more often on my birthday if we get results like these on a regular basis :D . Can’t remember the last time we won a game as comfortably as this
 
Bringing this back until we can go 90 minutes without nonsense. Conditions are:

- Must win by at least 2 goals.
- Cannot be a massive win (not normal)
- Cannot involve a crucial penalty save.
- No other nonsense, red cards, bizarre shit, own goals etc...
- Basically just a regular 2 - 0 win, or 3 - 1 if their goal is right at the end like a consolation.

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Man Utd 1 - 0 Fulham: Last gasp winner.
Brighton 2 - 1 Man Utd: Lost - managed to miss out on a potential win due to Zirkzee's knee.
Man Utd 0 - 3 Liverpool: Lost
Southampton 0 - 3 Man Utd: Won but needed a penalty save to keep it 0 - 0.
Man Utd 7 - 0 Barnsley: Beat up some kids.
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Man Utd: Bore draw.
Man Utd 1 - 1 Twente: Draw after letting a defender run through the whole team.
Man Utd 0 - 3 Tottenham: Probably the most nonsense of all so far.
Porto 3 - 3 Man Utd: Classic Utd psychotic result.
 
Upcoming fixtures:

Villa (A) - EPL
Brentford (H) - EPL
Fenerbahce (A) - Europa
West Ham (A) - EPL
Leicester (H) - League Cup
Chelsea (H) - EPL
PAOK (H) - Europa

In terms of a straightforward win, I don't see it happening until PAOK, whoever the hell they are.

I could legitimately see us losing the next three matches, taking a draw at West Ham, then getting knocked out by Vardy and losing to Chelsea with Sancho scoring.
 
What’s normal? A normal game would be us getting battered and losing. So it should be when we will next have a surprising game. Where we play well and win.
 
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