Think Casemiro's yellow from Crystal Palace & subsequent suspension........
And when would Eriksen get his minutes to replace Bruno? Or do you think just one match is enough for match fitness?
EL D Europa League Quarter-Final 1st Leg
Manchester United 2:2 Sevilla
Post-match discussion
Thu, 13 April 2023
Think Casemiro's yellow from Crystal Palace & subsequent suspension........
And when would Eriksen get his minutes to replace Bruno? Or do you think just one match is enough for match fitness?
Besides if the ref warns the manager that he is close to be booked again then who are we to deny the chance of that actually happening ? Personally I'd have preferred if Bruno stayed on the pitch but I understand ETH
Yeah on reflection this morning, it's the injuries that are my major concern. I've been quite bullish all along that we'd get top 4, still think we'll drag ourselves over the line, but these latest injuries are a killer and are going to test the fringe players of this squad, which lets face it, have let us down time and time again.
He's played because he's the only bench option on the left side.
Pfft. Bruno would have missed another game with a red, no? Maguire was in my view really good, that was the right call. Not sure there was a very obvious case that Dalot would be a better bet than Malacia improving on the left.
feck off Malacia
If we didnt have injuries to key players Id have been confident we could reset and beat them in Sevilla but Im not so sure now.
Will win in Seville.
Same old same old if you don’t take your chances it can and will bite you on the ass!
Other teams would have went on to score 3 or 4 and we just take the foot off the gas!
We have to be ruthless and flatten teams
I don’t see how we are unable to keep the speed and pressure on for for both half’s
we should be going there with the game won but instead we have 90 mins on a knife edge!
Other teams would have went on to score 3 or 4 and we just take the foot off the gas!
We have to be ruthless and flatten teams
I don’t see how we are unable to keep the speed and pressure on for for both half’s
we should be going there with the game won but instead we have 90 mins on a knife edge!
Team spirit in second half, or even at the end of first half was poor.
We had no connexion between lines, players were just not running together. We had Malacia losing every ball he had, Casemiro and Bruno were both running for nothing losing almost every ball too. Sancho was an absolute ghost and to be honest Ten Hag's coaching was not good.
I mean we could clearly see that Bruno was not doing good in that position of 8, having a yellow and being nervous, not touching any balls and losing the few ones he had. He replaced him by Eriksen. I don't get it. You are outplayed there, why don't play Fred who will bring more intensity next to Case, and bring Eriksen further up. With potentially Bruno on the left (defending on a poor Montiel).
And since we were not on the ball, why don't play Elanga as a striker just to run ? Weghorst is a good boy but he is done since a few weeks and doesn't bring anything to the team.
I mean his 3 changes just brang more uncertainty to the team, it was an absolute wrong decision by him.
I am clearly not confident about the second leg, as well as the remaining of the season without Licha
We had no connexion between lines, players were just not running together. We had Malacia losing every ball he had, Casemiro and Bruno were both running for nothing losing almost every ball too. Sancho was an absolute ghost and to be honest Ten Hag's coaching was not good.
I mean we could clearly see that Bruno was not doing good in that position of 8, having a yellow and being nervous, not touching any balls and losing the few ones he had. He replaced him by Eriksen. I don't get it. You are outplayed there, why don't play Fred who will bring more intensity next to Case, and bring Eriksen further up. With potentially Bruno on the left (defending on a poor Montiel).
And since we were not on the ball, why don't play Elanga as a striker just to run ? Weghorst is a good boy but he is done since a few weeks and doesn't bring anything to the team.
I mean his 3 changes just brang more uncertainty to the team, it was an absolute wrong decision by him.
I am clearly not confident about the second leg, as well as the remaining of the season without Licha
Thanks for reminding us Weghorst is a good honest lad.
This game reminded me of how all of my Football Manager 2021 saves go, and it's beyond infuriating.
Really good first half (in parts). Poor in the second for the most part. Coupled with two of the jammiest goals you will see all season. We can still go through I feel but the injuries to Varane and Martinez are a real bummer
And if they both got sent off and you found out ETH was warned about it you'd be saying why didn't he take them off...
Knowing full well the futility of discussing the match ratings on here, I can't resist a couple of comments.
WTF Wan-Bissaka 5.9 ? I thought he was solid yesterday, certainly our best defender.
And okay, Sabitzer scored two beautiful and crucial goals and that should be reflected in his rating, but he also showed very little for the rest of the game. I think Martial and Antony both had better games than he had. Yet he's a full point ahead of them.
WTF Wan-Bissaka 5.9 ? I thought he was solid yesterday, certainly our best defender.
And okay, Sabitzer scored two beautiful and crucial goals and that should be reflected in his rating, but he also showed very little for the rest of the game. I think Martial and Antony both had better games than he had. Yet he's a full point ahead of them.
Exactly.
Didn’t appreciate quite how rotated Sevilla’s team was last night with their eyes firmly on the relegation scrap.
They’ve only lost at home once since the World Cup, but not played anyone higher than Osasuna in 8th, who they lost to. They only won once at home prior to the World Cup and lost to everyone decent.
They’ve only lost at home once since the World Cup, but not played anyone higher than Osasuna in 8th, who they lost to. They only won once at home prior to the World Cup and lost to everyone decent.
Just another example to show we are not quite there yet.
We hardly ever score over 3 goals in a game regardless of how well we might play.
Can play very well for periods in a game but can also drop away badly for no real reason.
Squad just not strong enough yet and we painfully need a proper striker.
We hardly ever score over 3 goals in a game regardless of how well we might play.
Can play very well for periods in a game but can also drop away badly for no real reason.
Squad just not strong enough yet and we painfully need a proper striker.
Even with the injuries we are better than them. I'm confident we will get a win next week. We need to stay focused, improve on our passing and keep a cool head. Don't get sucked into their play acting like we did in the second half, because we know Spanish teams like to disrupt a game's tempo.
What an absolute disaster this turned into. Unbelievably unlucky. I'd like to think we have the squad to handle it, but who the feck knows honestly
I meant the one that he deflected into the goal.
Bringing on Elanga and Weghorst just shows how with a few injuries we are having to bring on players who would struggle to score versus a San Marino team down to 9 men.
I don’t buy the Bruno second yellow excuse, EtH could have just instructed Bruno, his chosen captain, to chill a bit. I just think he wanted to give Eriksen the minutes, which he clearly showed are needed and just over estimated our chances of seeing out the game. The other two that came on made us considerably worse also. Obviously the injury to Martinez was very unfortunate but Sevilla were all over us in the last 30 minutes.
I think this next week or so will determine whether this season is ending with a whimper. We have to beat Forest away, Seville away and Brighton at Wembley. Potentially all with a calamitous defence and our top scorer missing.
I don’t buy the Bruno second yellow excuse, EtH could have just instructed Bruno, his chosen captain, to chill a bit. I just think he wanted to give Eriksen the minutes, which he clearly showed are needed and just over estimated our chances of seeing out the game. The other two that came on made us considerably worse also. Obviously the injury to Martinez was very unfortunate but Sevilla were all over us in the last 30 minutes.
I think this next week or so will determine whether this season is ending with a whimper. We have to beat Forest away, Seville away and Brighton at Wembley. Potentially all with a calamitous defence and our top scorer missing.
Surreal game. After the first half it looked like it was going to be a stroll and a formality. I was sat in complete disbelief when their equaliser went in wondering what the hell just happened.
I'm sorry to say it as I'm a massive fan of his, but Ten Hag let Sevilla back into the game with that triple substitution. Eriksen, fine (even though we're far better with Bruno on the pitch) as he needs the minutes but Weghorst & Elanga at the same time with 30 minutes to go? One of them maybe to save Martial's legs or to remove Sancho who was stinking out Old Trafford but doing it all at once completely changed the dynamic of the game in Sevilla's favour.
I'm going to put his occasional bizarre decisions down as the price of being led by someone with such precocious talent. Occasionally they will do something really weird that will completely feck things up. You just have to have faith that 95% of the time they'll get it right.
I'm sorry to say it as I'm a massive fan of his, but Ten Hag let Sevilla back into the game with that triple substitution. Eriksen, fine (even though we're far better with Bruno on the pitch) as he needs the minutes but Weghorst & Elanga at the same time with 30 minutes to go? One of them maybe to save Martial's legs or to remove Sancho who was stinking out Old Trafford but doing it all at once completely changed the dynamic of the game in Sevilla's favour.
I'm going to put his occasional bizarre decisions down as the price of being led by someone with such precocious talent. Occasionally they will do something really weird that will completely feck things up. You just have to have faith that 95% of the time they'll get it right.
Our season is in danger of imploding. Why the hell do we take our foot of the gas? why the hell are we incapable of playing well in both halves of a game?
OK, the second goal was a fluke, the header was going nearer the goal at the Etihad than at OT but the first was like watching an U-11 game. Awful from Malacia and even after that DDG should have save it (no chance with the equaliser). I said I was worried about the game and, as ever, was mocked here...
And now, we have the injuries - it was amazing how soon the defence started to panic after Varane went off. Given the players missing, I can't see us winning at Spurs or Brighton - which are think are vital - or at Wembley
OK, the second goal was a fluke, the header was going nearer the goal at the Etihad than at OT but the first was like watching an U-11 game. Awful from Malacia and even after that DDG should have save it (no chance with the equaliser). I said I was worried about the game and, as ever, was mocked here...
And now, we have the injuries - it was amazing how soon the defence started to panic after Varane went off. Given the players missing, I can't see us winning at Spurs or Brighton - which are think are vital - or at Wembley
If kicking someone in the face isnt a red, nothing Antony did should be a red.
Bit gutted by that last 10 mins to be honest.
Everything that could have gone wrong did.
Bastard.
Everything that could have gone wrong did.
Bastard.
You were mocked for this post. I assume you now think we have no hope of going through?
Okay. Second-guessing substitutions with knowledge of the outcome in hand is an exercise of questionable usefulness at the best of times, but if you're also prepared to just discount the manager's stated reasons for why he made them, it's really getting a bit absurd.
I don't think 2-2 in all is a bad result, was always going to be hard, Utd should of easily won which makes it annoying but makes the second leg interesting.
Fingers crossed Rashford is back for the second leg even as a sub,
Ideally Varane injury is only minor and hoping for the best for Martinez.
Fingers crossed Rashford is back for the second leg even as a sub,
Ideally Varane injury is only minor and hoping for the best for Martinez.
Yes. Very much so.
United players have a habit of becoming complacent and reducing intensity and the opposition are well aware of that.
Is it complacency or is it that they are only able to play at a high intensity for 25 minutes.
Probably a bit of both if I am being charitable.
Completely agree with you.
Someone needs to remind these players that a match is 90min long. It’s no good playing brilliantly for 25min then coasting for the rest of it - this is what happens
Do you wake up crying every morning?
Very frustrating performance.
Folk saying Erik should've just told Bruno and Antony to calm things and they'd have been fine obviously don't pay too much attention to what you can get a yellow card for these days, Bruno's in this match being a classic example. It was also Seville we were playing. They'd have been going out of their way to manufacture second yellows. Given the circumstances Erik did the right thing.
I think we made too many subs too early. We finished the game with 10 men, but in reality we lost control and composure before that.
We finished with maguire, pellistri, elanga, malacia, weghorst. that team is neither solid at the back, nor does it pose any threat going forward.
I still think we should go through, but we need to perform way better than this.
On another note, maguires ability to be at the wrong place at the wrong time is puzzling. i mean the guy continues to be a walking meme.
We finished with maguire, pellistri, elanga, malacia, weghorst. that team is neither solid at the back, nor does it pose any threat going forward.
I still think we should go through, but we need to perform way better than this.
On another note, maguires ability to be at the wrong place at the wrong time is puzzling. i mean the guy continues to be a walking meme.
Two 'keystone cops' like OG's in the last ten minutes did for us.
Two excellent goals from Sabitzer, but should have been 3 or 4 up at half time. Given the late injuries and the need to protect against yellow cards, means the subs were a bit of a co**-up for ETH, but the OG's would have been laughable for anyone else... but not us!!
Its all to do next week, cannot hope Sevilla will be as poor at home.
Two excellent goals from Sabitzer, but should have been 3 or 4 up at half time. Given the late injuries and the need to protect against yellow cards, means the subs were a bit of a co**-up for ETH, but the OG's would have been laughable for anyone else... but not us!!
Its all to do next week, cannot hope Sevilla will be as poor at home.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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13%
Antony
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11%
Anthony Martial
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3%
Bruno Fernandes
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2%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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2%
Lisandro Martinez
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1%
David de Gea
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1%
Harry Maguire
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1%
Casemiro
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 203 ratings.
Score Predictions
146,9,13
- Man Utd win
- Sevilla win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 37% Man Utd 2:0 Sevilla
- 14% Man Utd 2:1 Sevilla
- 13% Man Utd 3:0 Sevilla
- 11% Man Utd 1:0 Sevilla
- 7% Man Utd 3:1 Sevilla
- 6% Man Utd 1:1 Sevilla
- 3% Man Utd 4:0 Sevilla
- 2% Man Utd 0:0 Sevilla
- 2% Man Utd 0:1 Sevilla
- 2% Man Utd 0:2 Sevilla
- 1% Man Utd 5:0 Sevilla
- 1% Man Utd 1:2 Sevilla
- 1% Man Utd 9:0 Sevilla
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Sevilla
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Sevilla
- Possession
- 55% 45%
- Shots
- 12 13
- Shots on Target
- 5 3
- Corners
- 6 6
- Fouls
- 13 12
Referee
Felix Zwayer
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Harry Maguire
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replaced by Christian Eriksen
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replaced by Wout Weghorst
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replaced by Facundo Pellistri
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replaced by Anthony Elanga
