[Parry Gallister]

No, I can't agree. If we were any more negative, we'd have had eleven men on the goal line. We should be taking the game to a team like Sevilla at Old Trafford. Press them, close them down and attack. We have the players to do it.

Oh agreed, we should be, was editing comment before you replied - what I mean is the team didn't seem able to do that at all for the parts of the match we were in their half looking to break them down.

 

[Axkiko]

We were out like Spurs, but Spurs were brilliant against Juve home and away. We were shite in both legs.

 

[Raw]

No, I can't agree. If we were any more negative, we'd have had eleven men on the goal line. We should be taking the game to a team like Sevilla at Old Trafford. Press them, close them down and attack. We have the players to do it.

The thing is we did...for like the first 10 minutes.

It's strange how we only have "bursts" of good attacking football. It's never consistent. Could just put it down as Sevilla reshaping and counteracting it or us getting tired, but it feels like it happens too often.

 

[Chekhov]

I genuinely think we should consider offering the managers role to Carragher. At least his attacks are fluid

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Oh agreed, we should be, was editing comment before you replied - what I mean is the team didn't seem able to do that at all for the parts of the match we were in their half looking to break them down.

Okay. We have to hope Mourinho has a really good think about his approach, or else he will lose the fans. Nobody can criticise his record, but he's testing our patience with the negative strategy.

 

[tony54]

I wonder if something is wrong with Pogba or if he's throwing a tantrum? We've built the team largely around him and it seems like he couldn't be bothered. He has been comically bad for several months. No wonder Jose has benched him. I can't imagine he doesn't realize that his poor form and attitude could keep him from playing for France this summer.

The only thing wrong with Pogba is that he has spit his dummy out.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

The thing is we did...for like the first 10 minutes.

It's strange how we only have "bursts" of good attacking football. It's never consistent. Could just put it down as Sevilla reshaping and counteracting it or us getting tired, but it feels like it happens too often.

Yes, the opening few minutes looked promising, then back to the old approach for almost the whole game. I just don't get it.

 

[Heinzesight]

What can I say that hasn’t already been said?

I expected us to go out tonight. All that bragging and gloating about beating the Scousers was bound to come back and bite us. I thought it would be a 1-1 or 2-2 draw. I didn’t expect that gutless performance. That was painful to watch.

Lukaku was the only one who give a damn out there. Everyone else was below par. With the exception of maybe Bailly.

Sanchez has been shit since coming here. This cannot go unsaid. It’s like he’s not even the same player. And people will blame Jose but what about his performances? He’s gotten himself into situations where he could have scored goals and he hasn’t. He’s losing the ball consranrly. He’s hesitating every time he’s in the box. If he doesn’t pick it up soon, fans will lose their patience with him. It’s been almost two fecking months. We brought him in to win us games like tonight and he was nowhere to be seen. 300k a week he’s on. We would be no worse if we put somebody like Angel Gomes on tonight.

Again I’ll say it... we will NEVER become an Elite club again if we have Smalling, Young and Jones at the back. Never never never. The sooner everyone starts to realise this and the club signs some bloody world class defenders, the better. Why are we not in for Fabinho, Varane, Alderweireld, Sandro? These are players that win you Champions Leagues. I’m sick of the sight of these Ferguson cast offs still in our squad. Look at how many players Pep shipped out at City. Look how much he’s spent on defenders. And yet Mourinho is still using Valencia, Young, Smalling and Jones. Those were from Fergies era FFS. The club needs to wake up.

This has been a terrible season. Top four is worthless if the end result is fecking Sevilla. We might be better off coming 7th and avoiding European football altogether. Leicester won the Premier League doing that... Chelsea won it doing that. It’s probably our best chance. Cause some of these players in our squad are just not Champions League quality. They’re fecking Stoke quality and nobody can convince me otherwise.

I still want Mourinho to stay but he got it wrong tonight. Mata should have started... probably McTominay aswell. When Mata’s on the pitch, we play football. When he’s off the pitch, the difference is huge. We start playing this garbage “hit and hope” style of play. And when Fellaini’s on the pitch, it’s even worse. It’s like everyone is aiming for his fecking Afro instead of playing it on the ground and making some silky passes together. That is why Juan Mata is our most important player. Feck Pogba, feck Sanchez, feck everyone else. When Mata doesn’t play, YOU KNOW the difference.

Agree with most of that.

The point about Sanchez is very true. Keeps taking an extra touch when he could just pull the trigger...equates to a lack of confidence...who’d have though that about Sanchez a few months back?

 

[Swift Football]

Absolutely gutted.

Few points I want to make:

1. I am not sure Jose set up the team to defend. To me, looks like players were not able to execute what was expected from them. I mean looks like Jose thought we will have the ball far more and having only Matic there would be sufficient. He could not have been anymore wrong.

2. Sanchez - every time he got the ball, he came inside, not even once he looked to beat their makeshift RB on the outside. And at least 4 or 5 times, when their RB followed him infield and Young had all kind of space, Sanchez dint make reverse pass/overhead pass even once. And this is not just this game but last 4/5 games. Should be rectified.


3. Pogba – after his recent scrutiny, I feel he is trying to keep things simple, yet frustratingly he missed few simple passes. His drive through the middle could produce something but we dint see any of those either in this game and other few recent games.


For me, Jose made 2 mistakes – Not starting with double pivot of Matic and McTominay. And - Not changing things at the start of second half.

This will undermine our whole season. If we had gone out in last 8 or if we had gone out against bigger opposition, it would not have been that bad.

 

[tomaldinho1]

We haven't been playing with a system that I can recognize/work out for a while. If LPool, City, Spurs play home or away I have a decent idea of how they will setup and the type of football they'll try to play, I don't really get this with us. I know what we won't do but I don't feel confident on where our goals are coming from and how we'll break teams down.

Reactive team: we don't really have a personality on the pitch other than being a counter attacking side, we need teams to come onto us which is why we did well against Liverpool. We don't take the initiative and we don't control games. This is clearly what Mou wants so it's something we have to accept but I feel in a home tie vs Seville (who really aren't a good team) you have to look to play some football and keep the ball.

 

[rooneyaldo]

Here is my two cents about this United team. People will go on and try to find different and unique reasons as to why we lost. They will say it’s the formation or the tactics. Quality of players and Jose is also a common reason pointed out. From my understanding after the Liverpool game is its none of the above. Jose plays a certain way that is not park the bus but deep lying counter attaching football. He played the same style against Liverpool at home as he did today against an inferior Seville side but we won the harder game and loosing the easier. And pretty much the same players played in both games. So it cannot be Jose, his tactics, formation or the players otherwise this much vaunted Liverpool team would have gotten a result against us. I believe the players didn’t turn up today like they did against Liverpool. They are not consistent and that’s the main reason for all our demises this season; consistency. And consistency will only come once we play more under this management. Once you play a certain way over and over again, only then it becomes second nature and you improve your consistency. So the solution is to accept this and keep going under Jose. We have an amazing squad, after Sanchez there can be no issues with quality of the squad, big wins against Liverpool and Chelsea show that Jose and his tactics are fine. Players just need to play more to improve their consistency. Hopefully it doesn’t take too long but some time is needed.

 

[Acole9]

I'm not even annoyed about us going out, I'm annoyed at how badly we played. That was the worst I've ever seen us play in a knockout match in the competition. If we had advanced, we would've got battered playing like that.

The selection was wrong, McTominay should've started, he's been running through walls for the team, Carrick would've been a good option, maybe there would've been some fight there. I also think Mata should've come on a lot earlier than he did.

Even when we got the goal back, most of them looked scared and still wanted to defend! I'm happy to adopt those tactics but not at home against Sevilla in the Champions League when we needed a goal.

 

[predator]

We genuinely are so the most predictable footballing team I've ever witnessed on a pitch which is hosting such a big match. From tonight I got the general feeling that a high percentage of our squad are simply not motivated enough to perform atm. I refuse to believe that the likes of Pogba and Sanchez are naturally this poor because I've seen them shine at other clubs. Something is not working at United atm and tbh I don't know what it is.

All I can do as a fan is lower my expectations but when you break the world record fee for Pogba, take away Alexis Sanchez from arsenal and still look clueless in attack then I have nothing else to predict - I feel sorry for the board who have genuine investments in the club.

 

[redflash]

Set up completely wrong and this set the tone for the night.

Bad bad night for everyone who loves this club.....but let us not go too far. We have lost to a poor side who were better than us over two games granted but this was the last 16 of champions league. We're 2nd in the league and still got a chance to win something.

Yes it' not what any of us want but this squad is still learning. That defeat will be a great lesson to them.

I hope Jose takes this opportunity to start working for next year. Develop our style of play and work on making us more attractive from the solid base we'e built.

If we can beat brighton Saturday were in the semi-final of cup.

Keep pushing in the league and we finish second.

Yes we'e still got a long way to go but after van gaal if I was offered 3 trophys and a 2nd place finish in two years I'd have snatched at it.

We're going in the right direction, tonight was just a bad bad night at he office

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

In the last 5 years it's amazing how often we manage to win a big game, get some momentum together and have a general positive feeling around the club and then immediately follow it up with some disasterous performance or result.

It honestly feels like every time in the last 5 years we've done something right we immediately feck things up. What is it? Is it complacency?

 

[CM]

Mourinho is getting slated but I genuinely don't think the idea was to play negatively tonight. We didn't play with a three man midfield or 3-6-1 as sometimes when we're going safety-first, we saw in the first 5 minutes the team were supposed to fly forward as against Liverpool, but Sevilla's ball retention after that initial period unnerved the players beyond all comprehension and they went completely into their shells.

If you look around the team there aren't many leaders to knock heads together on the pitch and improvise, and it's hard to see how Mourinho could have predicted the players would be so cowardly in light of recent results.

Mourinho has been playing this way for far too long to claim it wasn't his his intention. He started with Fellaini and was more than happy to let Sevilla have the ball, just as he is against any half-decent opposition. Likewise, it wasn't until we went behind that he felt the need to make the double change. If he genuinely wanted to play on the front foot he would've made those changes much earlier.

I thought that game was very reminiscent of some of the dour Europa League grinds last season (minus the good fortune) which were wilfully ignored at the time. I don't know if he thinks winning that competition vindicates his conservative style of play, but we won't get very far playing that way in the Champions League, as evidenced tonight.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Set up completely wrong and this set the tone for the night.

Bad bad night for everyone who loves this club.....but let us not go too far. We have lost to a poor side who were better than us over two games granted but this was the last 16 of champions league. We're 2nd in the league and still got a chance to win something.

Yes it' not what any of us want but this squad is still learning. That defeat will be a great lesson to them.

I hope Jose takes this opportunity to start working for next year. Develop our style of play and work on making us more attractive from the solid base we'e built.

If we can beat brighton Saturday were in the semi-final of cup.

Keep pushing in the league and we finish second.

Yes we'e still got a long way to go but after van gaal if I was offered 3 trophys and a 2nd place finish in two years I'd have snatched at it.

We're going in the right direction, tonight was just a bad bad night at he office

I think it goes well beyond having an off night, mate. The tactics are now set in stone: dull, negative football, even in home games. Very few people are surprised we lost against what is an average Sevilla side, which is worrying. I'm certainly not calling for Jose to be sacked, but believe he needs a re-think before it becomes deadly serious for him. He has some top quality players, but the team doesn't look top quality. We are so predictable and easy to play against, and this goes back months.

 

[Revaulx]

A positive

It's not worse than this

Yes it is. We went through then despite having our arses handed to us in Greece, thanks to a virtuoso performance by RvP in the home leg. This time we were dismal in both legs

 

[redflash]

I think it goes well beyond having an off night, mate. The tactics are now set in stone: dull, negative football, even in home games. Very few people are surprised we lost against what is an average Sevilla side, which is worrying. I'm certainly not calling for Jose to be sacked, but believe he needs a re-think before it becomes deadly serious for him. He has some top quality players, but the team doesn't look top quality. We are so predictable and easy to play against, and this goes back months.

We can't be that predictable as we have beaten both Chelsea and Liverpool in the last 10 days.

Don' get me wrong im not saying we are where we need to be but as I said before I think we're still on a positive curve. It just feels bad after THAT performance.

 

[Morpheus 7]

Disappointing night for the club. Poor team selection, tactics and performances. We deserved to go out and weren't brave enough on the night. I think Lukaku and Rashford are the only players that stood up. Felt there was over confidence, the previous results were good but maybe some took this game for granted, including players. Fans have the right to be annoyed, we give a poor account of ourselves and didn't play near to our potential. A performance like that might get you through on a EL round but not CL.

Mourihno deserves to be questioned tonight, he got it wrong on many levels at the worst possible time. I still think he's progressing us well but that was way too negative. I knew it was coming and too late to react to salvage the result. It's give the season a real uninspiring ending. The FA cup is there and we can cement 2nd but can't say I'm excited in all honesty after that. For fighting hard last year to get in this competition, seems like a waste of time now. No big games or knocking out a huge side. I think there are players that need to go and areas we need to improve on. More than anything, we need an 11 that is a constant. We need to address the full back areas and midfield in the summer. Starting an unfit Fellaini alongside Matic is the worst decision I've seen this season. That away goal is always going to bite you if you don't take the game to the opposition at home. Not good enough and we didn't play to our potential. Well done to Sevilla, that first goal was an excellent finish. They deserved it and took there chance when the nerves crept in.

 

[Offside]

The things that hurts most is that if we’d have had Paul Lambert manage that tie we’d be through. Any kind of attacking intent we’d have beat those lot. Mouriniho’s cowardly tactics and blinkered dedication to cautious football fecked us up big time. Sevilla at Old Trafford for fecks sake and we can’t get through. All on the FA Cup now I guess.

 

[Crimson King]

In the last 5 years it's amazing how often we manage to win a big game, get some momentum together and have a general positive feeling around the club and then immediately follow it up with some disasterous performance or result.

It honestly feels like every time in the last 5 years we've done something right we immediately feck things up. What is it? Is it complacency?

It would have been nice if I could have enjoyed beating the scousers and watching Carragher make a national tit of himself for longer than 2 days, that's for sure

 

[Sereques]

Lost the match in first leg. Shameful.

 

[desmondisback]

Please see the light my fellow fans......

Jose's nonsense negativity and crap cautiousness finally exposed down to the bone and publicly for all to see. I could see it coming from a mile off. The truth is out and it stinks of raw cowardice. Even I was shocked. I didn't know he was capable of being so cautious.

One team was trying to win - Sevilla
One team had a go - Sevilla
One team had the courage to take it to the opposition - Sevilla
One team played decent football - Sevilla

Well played them.

One team had fear put into them by their manager - United

This is what could have so easily happened against a crap Celta Vigo but many deluded themselves last year. Is this what United work so hard to get into the CL for? So we can bottle it like wimps? Why bother qualifying again this year? So we can come back again and parade our cowardice to all of Europe? At least Spurs went out trying to win a game against a very good team. They can hold their heads high - we can't. And Jose lovers have the cheek to call US negative nellies! Pah! There's only one negative nellie around here and he's Portuguese. If we had showed them any more respect we'd be licking their bottoms. United fans can tolerate losing but no United fan should be the laughing stock at work because their team was too afraid to have a go.

It's a fecking cup competition Jose and you can't win cups without being brave at some point and having a go. There's an alternate universe somewhere out there where these players have a real go at Sevilla in both legs and beat them 5-3. In that universe Jose is not our manager.

When a team loses like that it can't even fall back on self respect. What will the players tell their grandchildren. We drew Sevilla and then erm....well.... our manager told us to try an not concede. Doh!

Despite wins against Palace , Chelsea and Liverpool this team was still playing some crap halves of football. We look so much better when we are having a go and so much worse when we are passive. Those wins disguised the shite that was underneath.

.....and we have a manager who just can't see this.

 

[sdb4884]

Seriously F Off Mourinho, we’ve seen what he brings to the table and it’s not what this club needs

 

[desmondisback]

It would have been nice if I could have enjoyed beating the scousers and watching Carragher make a national tit of himself for longer than 2 days, that's for sure

What's the betting that Sevilla draw Liverpool and then they humiliate us by showing us how it's done. Klopp may be a clown but he's no coward.

 

[VivaObertan]

Fellaini was not playing well, at the time he was the worst player on the pitch by a country mile.

Dont embarass yourself by trying to claim otherwise.

Lol, what? There were definitely worse players than Fellaini on the pitch today. Don't know why he's getting so much stick tbh.

 

[Tapori]

Sour Souness tbf makes good points

 

[Toddler]

Yes, sadly he (c'nt) is making good valid points.

 

[Mourinhonista]

What's the betting that Sevilla draw Liverpool and then they humiliate us by showing us how it's done. Klopp may be a clown but he's no coward.

Last time Sevilla took them out with ease. If United had attacked them, we‘d have won seems to be the current go to narrative, but i think it‘s not as simple as that. What especially Pogba showed with the ball at his feed was disgraceful stuff, Sanchez lost the ball time and again. I don‘t think Mourinho told them to sabotage the game like they both did.

A lot of knee–jeerking going on, it‘s a bad loss but we‘ll recover with Mourinho, we always do!

 

[Jaybomb]

Lol, what? There were definitely worse players than Fellaini on the pitch today. Don't know why he's getting so much stick tbh.

Cause he was “the change”

If Pogba played the entire game, we’d have still lost. Fellaini was better than him tonight. Infact we didn’t concede until he came off.

 

[DavosOfManc]

You know you've hit rock bottom as a United fan when you're quietly pleased you didn't get through and get spanked even harder by City or somebody else in the QF's. Bit reactionary maybe but oh well. FA Cup here we come.

 

[SteveJ]

That's the first time I've seen him with such a big smile.

 

[nainaisson]

Lol, what? There were definitely worse players than Fellaini on the pitch today. Don't know why he's getting so much stick tbh.

He's the go-to scapegoat for people who don't really understand the game. And his recent GQ photo shoot in which his hair was fashioned to look like Mickey Mouse's ears doesn't help.

 

[tentan]

Utd were poor over both legs. Sevilla should've beat us easily in the first leg and deservedly went through tonight. This team was the complete opposite of the team that beat Liverpool over the weekend and were atrocious to watch. Fellaini starting? Wtf was Mourinho thinking, he should've started the same 11 and Pogba had one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a Utd player.

 

[Backrow Singer]

Can talk tactics and selections all day but some of those players need to have a long hard look at themselves tonight. To show such little enthusiasm when playing for Manchester United is simply unacceptable, it’s embarrassing. With a bit of intent and a bit of spark we win that game but there was nothing tonight. They just floated around and watched them. If it was a fight United didn’t throw a punch.

Thought Mata should have started, Lingard and Rashford in the 11 worries me. Felaini was a nothing selection tonight, really what was the point? Sanchez was too isolated but good players find a way and he didn’t. The balance to the team was all wrong.

As I say though, we didn’t press them, there was no movement off the ball, no tempo to the passing. All slow, sideways, lethargic. It’s a bad night and as I say, I’m embarrassed and they all should be too. Pathetic.

 

[afrocentricity]

We were out like Spurs, but Spurs were brilliant against Juve home and away. We were shite in both legs.

But nevertheless we are both out, and in a few months time no-one will give a feck how well we were playing while we were exiting....

 

[lex talionis]

I'm sure somebody has mentioned this here already so apologies for repeating the point, but we looked like a side suffering a massive letdown from the massive win over Liverpool. We took this side for granted -- yes, a side should have punked -- but never showed up. We were victims of our own arrogance, but maybe some emotional fatigue as well.

 

[Water Melon]

A deserved loss there. Feel for the fans at OT, must have been some pain for them to watch that misery for 90+ minutes. The loss is on Mou, and he needs to be held accountable for this.

 

[afrocentricity]

Lost the match in first leg. Shameful.

Lost the match in the first leg? Not being funny but we couldn't win at home. Away is one thing but we usually back ourselves to get something at home. We got beat, we are out and rightly so. We aren't there yet.... People need to accept this.