Top post. Glad to know that the stadium feeling is totally different! On TV, they always show a bunch of fans leaving around the 85 min mark.
I was wondering why that was happening in a game we played well for the most part.
PL D FA Premier League
Manchester United 0:0 Newcastle United
Post-match discussion
Sun, 16 October 2022
Top post. Glad to know that the stadium feeling is totally different! On TV, they always show a bunch of fans leaving around the 85 min mark.
I was wondering why that was happening in a game we played well for the most part.
These are the games we need to win to get top four this season. We need to win our home games. The other top teams are not dropping many points this season.
I think that happens every game to be honest, it certainly has for as long as I have been going.
And, also...I don't want that post to be interpreted as 'you have to go to games to be a fan'...I'm not a regular now. My point is, I am sick of the negativity and whingeing on this forum. The season is 10 games old, people need to relax!
Not just the newbies though, there's plenty of posters with thousands of posts just as bad.
The rest I agree with totally
We were OK but not great. Newcastle are a good side so it's definitely not a terrible result. We're not a top team but we are definitely getting better.
Defensively we look miles better. Varanasi and Martinez are very good! We missed Erikson today though, I think he might have been the one to unlock that deep defense.
Need another top striker asap.
Defensively we look miles better. Varanasi and Martinez are very good! We missed Erikson today though, I think he might have been the one to unlock that deep defense.
Need another top striker asap.
Top post. I keep saying this. One good game, we're world beaters, one average game, we're dross. But for a couple of dodgy decisions we would have beaten (allegedly) the next best team in the Premiership
So much negativity here, at times our transitional play and passing was a HUGE improvement from recent seasons. This Newcastle side we faced have been decent, this game was never an easy run so lets all respect that at times our passing and movement nullified them completely. There are so many reasons to be confident on the future of our club. If we had a proper goal scorer this game would have finished so much differently.
That happens at every game , it's mostly people leaving to catch the train early .
The Stadium and this place are way apart in difference of opinions on players and the teams performances .
People need to relax .
We are 10 games into a new managers reign at the club, it will take time for United to be consistent but I genuinely thought before kickoff that we could have lost today so the performance was encouraging.
We are 10 games into a new managers reign at the club, it will take time for United to be consistent but I genuinely thought before kickoff that we could have lost today so the performance was encouraging.
It wasn't as bad as some people are saying. Second half we completely bossed them and they didn't have a sniff. Creating chances is an issue, but we actually did create a few and with better finishing we'd have won. The big worry is finishing - twice in a row we've dominated and either not won or barely won. Desperately need a striker, or we need to start playing to Ronaldo's strengths, whatever they are now.
Also, Newcastle have been good this season. A point and a clean sheet isn't totally awful. We need to remember that this is Ten Hag's first season and we're still in the first half of it. Obviously we all want to see goals and wins but despite not scoring I don't think the performance was negative. It highlighted what we're missing in terms of players more than it did coaching
Also, Newcastle have been good this season. A point and a clean sheet isn't totally awful. We need to remember that this is Ten Hag's first season and we're still in the first half of it. Obviously we all want to see goals and wins but despite not scoring I don't think the performance was negative. It highlighted what we're missing in terms of players more than it did coaching
It was a crap game, one of the worst United Newcastle game I can remember seeing actually as usually have pretty entertaining games with them.
Result isn't a disaster but it wasn't a good performance. Never did enough to win the game. First half in particular was utter shit, couldn't keep the ball at well whether it be a misplaced pass or a shit ball over the top to nobody and Newcastle somehow didn't score with the Joelinton efforts off the bar and post. Second half was a little bit better after around the hour mark, we actually played kept possession a bit and pinned them back a little bit without forcing the keeper into any saves. God knows how one of those Fred or Rashford chances didn't go in late on but if you don't create anything.
Definitely missed Eriksen today, Fred was crap again, Ronaldo anonymous and Sancho and Bruno did very little again too. Defence didn't give much up in open play though which was a positive again.
Result isn't a disaster but it wasn't a good performance. Never did enough to win the game. First half in particular was utter shit, couldn't keep the ball at well whether it be a misplaced pass or a shit ball over the top to nobody and Newcastle somehow didn't score with the Joelinton efforts off the bar and post. Second half was a little bit better after around the hour mark, we actually played kept possession a bit and pinned them back a little bit without forcing the keeper into any saves. God knows how one of those Fred or Rashford chances didn't go in late on but if you don't create anything.
Definitely missed Eriksen today, Fred was crap again, Ronaldo anonymous and Sancho and Bruno did very little again too. Defence didn't give much up in open play though which was a positive again.
Good post
Ronaldo had a poor game today but the one thing he did do was get free in the box quite a few times and a decent cross would have seen him score an easy header.
No one can deny he can still do that.
Some of the crossing today was abysmal. Typical that the one good one goes to Rashford who has the heading skills of a Sunday league player.
No one can deny he can still do that.
Some of the crossing today was abysmal. Typical that the one good one goes to Rashford who has the heading skills of a Sunday league player.
Even though it was a bit of a stalemate we’re so much better at almost everything than this time last year.
I was there today and it was a good atmosphere. Martinez, Varane and Casemiro were all good. It’s so nice to finally have a top midfielder who commands that bit of the pitch although I felt we missed Eriksen today, I think he could have found a way through for someone had he played.
Newcastle are a really well organised team on a good run and they made it hard work for us but we weren’t terrible by any means, just need that extra edge up front.
I was there today and it was a good atmosphere. Martinez, Varane and Casemiro were all good. It’s so nice to finally have a top midfielder who commands that bit of the pitch although I felt we missed Eriksen today, I think he could have found a way through for someone had he played.
Newcastle are a really well organised team on a good run and they made it hard work for us but we weren’t terrible by any means, just need that extra edge up front.
I had to show my PHD qualification and my MENSA membership when I joined.
Now I think they are even letting working class people join. I think some of them are even football fans.
How I yearn for the days of philosophical discussion with like minded intellectuals.
Bruno non existent again. Ronaldo is finished and needs to be sold in January, Fred seemed to not complete a meaningful pass in the game.
Nothing new that we don't already know. Hopefully Ten Hag is backed with a striker in the January window or our season really could fizzle out.
We can't do anything in midfield without Eriksen. I trust Ten Hag as its nothing he doesn't know and hence why he wanted Eriksen and De Jong for the CM position.
Just have to continue backing him with the players he feels we need.
GK, ST and CM must be the priorities. De Gea, Ronaldo and Fred should go if we get the 3 we need.
Nothing new that we don't already know. Hopefully Ten Hag is backed with a striker in the January window or our season really could fizzle out.
We can't do anything in midfield without Eriksen. I trust Ten Hag as its nothing he doesn't know and hence why he wanted Eriksen and De Jong for the CM position.
Just have to continue backing him with the players he feels we need.
GK, ST and CM must be the priorities. De Gea, Ronaldo and Fred should go if we get the 3 we need.
Frustrating as we need to be winning these games for a top 4 challenge. Also wished ETH through on Garnacho for a change up front. We only used one sub. Appreciate we were under resourced in midfield with a few people out.
De gea is not anywhere as pressing as Fred and a striker
Hahaha. Madarchod.
Don’t even think it was the strikers
If you present Ronaldo with a chance he’ll probably take it
But sancho, I don’t know whar he is doing but there is no body on his wave length
Antony over hit everything
Eriksen was the big loss, and dare I say it, we needed mctom on for Fred
Agreed, that team could still be playing now and it would be 0-0
Take a chance, be no worse than Fred
What's that got to do with this season?
F*#*#*#*#*#ck that ref. What an annoying arse. That is the most frustrated I have been with a ref in a long time. It truly felt like he was rooting for Newcastle
I thought we played pretty well vs a good Prem team. Rough one for Fred, and I like they dude. Too bad but he hurt us today.
I thought we played pretty well vs a good Prem team. Rough one for Fred, and I like they dude. Too bad but he hurt us today.
Outrageous refereeing performance, but our players really aren't good enough at finishing.
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Rashford has been ill, otherwise he’d have definitely started.
Rashford has been ill, otherwise he’d have definitely started.
Really good post and largely reflects my views. We wanted to see progress this season and we are seeing that game by game.
Thought we played well overall and were by far the better side in the second half.whats evident is the need for a striker.
Ronaldos goal should have stood in my opinion.
Ronaldos goal should have stood in my opinion.
Today we had thin squad and we haven't brought a single kid on, LVG actually made us think Blackett and McNair were gonna make it.
It's not about a posters' inability to write a detailed tactical analysis of our games or even write stylishly or eloquently...who cares about any of that...I suspect most of us type out posts on our phones whilst watching TV/on the bog etc...so they're never going to be works of great literature.
What I have an issue with, and am really sick of, is the constant whingeing and 'boom or bust'-style posts.
At least if you are going to moan (not saying 'you' but posters in general), try to be consistent, try to balance that with saying something positive when it's deserved and try to write something that might at least be interesting to another poster.
There's a majority of people on here who I guarantee will have posted 75%+ negative posts
The challenge with dropping stupid points like this is that it puts us under grater pressure to take maximum points from top six clubs. We’re capable of doing just that but we need to be firing on all cylinders in in all phases of play against Spurs and Chelsea.
Our finishing must improve if we’re to land CL qualification next season.
Our finishing must improve if we’re to land CL qualification next season.
How long are we going to ignore the wasting of chances our players do in every game ? We can't keep doing this every single game and put it solely on a lack of striker.
Our other attackers need to do way better than this.
For example today with the Rashford chance - I'm sorry : you have to put the ball at least on target and make their goalkeeper "work and stretch" especially when he was so close to the goal.
I can't accept thing like that
Our other attackers need to do way better than this.
For example today with the Rashford chance - I'm sorry : you have to put the ball at least on target and make their goalkeeper "work and stretch" especially when he was so close to the goal.
I can't accept thing like that
It's not so much as scale of the task but rather patience from fans and the club.
For all of this to work, we're going to need to be patient as the right personnel required for the manager won't all be available in the same transfer windows.
Also a draw against Newcastle is not the end of the world considering the rebuilding we are currently undergoing.
Not like dropping points at home to Newcastle is something new.. 1997, 1998,2004,2011,2015 and today all 0-0 draws in Old Trafford v Newcastle. There was also a few 1-1 draws in 90s. Oh and lost to them 1-0 under Moyes in Old Trafford.
That 100m player is the player the manager wanted.
As for the bolded: The wasting of millions took place when Ed Woodward was at the helm. He's no longer here and we're not hemorrhaging another billion on players that won't fit the system.
City and Liverpool had patience to bring in the right people at the right time. The same is needed if we're going to be successful in rebuilding this club.
until we find a guy who can consistently put the ball in the back of the net, we'll be fighting for that 4th spot at best
the amount of chances rashford misses has cost united too often this season and Ronaldo is done at this high level as a striker. he's lost that half step which is what made him so difficult to defend as he had the pace to run past you but also the trickery to dribble around you. he doesn't have that anymore and is now completely reliant on service from everyone else
the amount of chances rashford misses has cost united too often this season and Ronaldo is done at this high level as a striker. he's lost that half step which is what made him so difficult to defend as he had the pace to run past you but also the trickery to dribble around you. he doesn't have that anymore and is now completely reliant on service from everyone else
Based on MOTD 2 highlights. Seen some positives.
Defence continues to be good, was worried that we might revert to type after City, but our last 2 matches suggest good defending is now our norm.
We created a few good moments. I liked Sancho’s ball to Antony, in the past we’d have someone who’d either blindly cross or hold onto the ball for too long and lose it.
We created match winning chances in the last minutes. Really should have taken at least one and come away with 3 points. But Fred is Fred and Rashford should have done better.
I think we’re developing well.
Defence continues to be good, was worried that we might revert to type after City, but our last 2 matches suggest good defending is now our norm.
We created a few good moments. I liked Sancho’s ball to Antony, in the past we’d have someone who’d either blindly cross or hold onto the ball for too long and lose it.
We created match winning chances in the last minutes. Really should have taken at least one and come away with 3 points. But Fred is Fred and Rashford should have done better.
I think we’re developing well.
It was a pretty decent performance aside from finishing and we didn't create enough. Defensively we were sound, and we totally dominated them second half. Definitely some upsides despite the draw
Vexed that we didn't win in spite of not many clear cut chances- this was the sentiment of the crowd, frustrated but borne out of positivity, not as though we were holding on.
First half they played on the counter second half they studied Omonia and parked the bus.
Ref was a scouse youknowwhat but I've never seen this level of gamesmanship by a team since Atletico.
Wish we had a bit of tactical flexibility like, bruh swap Antony/Sancho round, give them something else to think about. Some subs would have been nice too, throw on a Garnacho/Iqbal TRY something different.
Might get ripped for this but VDBeek would have been perfect for this game, camped in their half some movement would have been nice.
Fred was diabolical, counted 12 Fredisms. Progress? Yes, it's clear what ETH is trying to implement it will take time. Chill.
First half they played on the counter second half they studied Omonia and parked the bus.
Ref was a scouse youknowwhat but I've never seen this level of gamesmanship by a team since Atletico.
Wish we had a bit of tactical flexibility like, bruh swap Antony/Sancho round, give them something else to think about. Some subs would have been nice too, throw on a Garnacho/Iqbal TRY something different.
Might get ripped for this but VDBeek would have been perfect for this game, camped in their half some movement would have been nice.
Fred was diabolical, counted 12 Fredisms. Progress? Yes, it's clear what ETH is trying to implement it will take time. Chill.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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22%
Casemiro
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16%
Luke Shaw
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13%
Antony
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11%
Lisandro Martinez
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5%
Jadon Sancho
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3%
David de Gea
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2%
Bruno Fernandes
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1%
Diogo Dalot
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1%
Marcus Rashford
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 226 ratings.
Score Predictions
149,17,38
- Man Utd win
- Newcastle win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 30% Man Utd 2:1 Newcastle
- 17% Man Utd 2:0 Newcastle
- 12% Man Utd 1:1 Newcastle
- 9% Man Utd 3:1 Newcastle
- 6% Man Utd 2:2 Newcastle
- 6% Man Utd 1:0 Newcastle
- 5% Man Utd 3:2 Newcastle
- 3% Man Utd 3:0 Newcastle
- 3% Man Utd 1:2 Newcastle
- 2% Man Utd 1:3 Newcastle
- 1% Man Utd 0:2 Newcastle
- 1% Man Utd 0:1 Newcastle
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 0:0 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 4:0 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 0:9 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 4:3 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 9:0 Newcastle
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Newcastle
- Possession
- 63% 37%
- Shots
- 15 9
- Shots on Target
- 2 2
- Corners
- 4 4
- Fouls
- 13 11
Referee
Craig Pawson
Man Utd Lineup
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