[Crashoutcassius]

Agree with that. Inclined to think he pandered to them. I am hoping they have met their match in Ralf, he will not be liking this sort of whinging and whining.

wierd that attitudes were better under ole. maybe he put together a squad that takes a big personality to manage, i would accept that. not clear why ronaldo would listen to RR whose main coaching achievement is a semi final with schalke 15 years ago.

just playing devils advocate here, but really posters need to stop trying to pin things on ole in a blind panic. ralf is responsible and hopefully will be responsible when we start improving over the coming months.

 

[GMoore23]

We beat that shower of shite 4-1 under Ole.

 

[Eyepopper]

Jesus... Calm down mate. There's epileptics watching.

Think about it mate, if he held onto the ball just a little bit longer we'd be guaranteed at least 90% possession in every match!

 

[Nordmore]

Could anyone here tell me what was the plan? We looked like headless chickens tbh.

I'm happy with a point and that says it all.

 

[BlueHaze]

Honestly it was shocking how bad we was. I'm taking into consideration it's been quite turbulent recently for them but this team won't finish top 4, absolutely no chance.

 

[::sonny::]

Feck me this was a good laugh, thanks for that

Hahahaha

 

[Barthez]

On reflection (and I don’t like to say it) decent point.

 

[ExoduS]

Yeah, this team has a long way to go. Long, long way to go. I am not expecting a miracle, but I am expecting something. Got nothing. Same as it was under Ole.

 

[minoo-utd]

Why are we panicking? Why we can’t even do the simple passes? How we become as poor as this with all these names! Right now we don’t know what we exactly need! It’s just like a middle of no where.

 

[TJ Reid]

You know what?
Your club is fecking around with Rashford and Greenwood
I’d take the latter in a shot to the Emirates - a better environment there for him with young English players

 

[Champ]

Look at what Conte is doing with that spurs team

Conte has nearly 4 weeks on RR.
Let's see what we're like in a few more weeks eh.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

It doesnt help when they outnumber our 2. Rangnick probably thought McFred would cover enough ground but the running around those two was poor - IE Rashford/Bruno would not get back to cover the ground left vacant.

I don’t think Bruno or Rashford have a clue what they’re meant to be doing at the moment to be honest, that doesn’t excuse their horrendous performances though but if Fred and McT can’t compete against those they aren’t good enough.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Badly need a new MF that can control and dictate the play. Fred is just shit and Mctominah works hard but cannot pass for his life. With Pogba going we need two MFs.

Worrying performance. No control in the game. Maybe the only positive was at times we looked like we had some pattern to our attacking play. But very little to show of it.

Whatever has happened to Bruno as well.

 

[Addled]

Longstaff in love with Joelinton is not what I expected from this post match interview.

Agree completely. However, show an example of a United player stepping up and defending their teammates. Where is McGuire telling us that McTomminay is the best player that he has ever seen in training rather than a guy who spends the game hiding from a pass. Or where is Ronaldo saying that Sancho is definitely heir to the throne despite what he shows whenever picked. All they do is whinge (word of the night) and bitch at each other. Longstaff demonstrated togetherness. They are at the bottom of the league and their teamwork is far better than ours.

 

[TMDaines]

Such an appallingly lazy performance. Out of possession we were never able to show any sort of systematic pressing. With the ball, we just engaged in the most basic, lowest effort offensive play. There was no off the ball movement, no willingness to pass and move and work the Newcastle defence. You compare United to any top side, feck – even Arsenal, and we are devoid of any cohesion in the final third.

Rashford gets so much shit, but he played under LVG, Mou and Ole. He will continue to play under Rangnick and will play for any future manager too. Our squad is so devoid of anyone else going forward who is willing to run in behind or work the wide channels. He’s the only attacker we have (bar Cavani) who really works defences and keeps them honest. Greenwood, Sancho, Ronaldo and Bruno all keep coming to the ball, seeking short passes and play in front of the defence. I’m pulling my hair out watching that lot offering so little..

Varane was fecking awful. It is one thing to be defensively rusty, but the man’s a coward in possession. He just passed the buck to Maguire every time to progress the ball forward.

That was as bad as City and Liverpool given the opposition, and the sort of performance that could get a manager the sack were we not only four games in. There’s been virtually no improvement from Ole’s final days. Rangnick must be a bit worried, as United look sixth favourites for CL football next season and have had only one really good half out of eight since he took over.

Absolute shite. No positives except for De Gea. Even Cavani needed three big chances for his one goal.

 

[Houdini]

Everytime after these kind of performences I watch this video of Evra after the Spurs game.


If you are angry rather than sad then try this one:

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

Conte has nearly 4 weeks on RR.
Let's see what we're like in a few more weeks eh.

We should have got Conte, said it beforehand and I think we’ll regret not getting him.

 

[ForeverRed1]

Defence and midfield needs sorting out ASAP. Way too easy to run through, picked apart by every team we play. We look lost and clueless out there.

varane is very shaky. Needs a run of games.
maguire constantly has mistakes in him. As does varane. Our fullbacks are below par for the level we want. Compare them to Liverpool’s and you get the level

midfield is non existent, one of the worst midfields in the league in all honesty.

the defensive side of our team is where ralf has to start. He has to sort out the amount of goals we’re leaking. Abysmal and big names need to mean nothing at this point.

also don’t think maguire Is the captain. Bruno is also a number 10 best in just behind two strikers.

donny should hand in transfer request.

 

[cj_sparky]

It was awful.

16 days gave me an appetite to just to see a game. Today reminded me of why I didn't miss it though.

 

[fen4e]

We just seem so nervy and jittery. Varane has won Champions League trophies and looked terrified. Likes of Bruno, Rashford, Sancho and even Ronaldo look like they are constantly on the edge, trying too hard, overplaying, making poor decisions and basic mistakes.

For me, there isn't just one problem, but the fact we don't have anybody in CM who we can "put the ball in the bank" with is a big part of the problem. If you look at top sides, they have a Jorginho, a Rodri or a Henderson/Thiago who always show for the ball and very rarely give it away. We don't have that, every time we have the ball you see the panic in the eyes of the player with the ball as they realise they have no options infront of them.

Good post, thanks!

 

[The Hilton]

The usual agendas are on show tonight, bashing the likes of Maguire who, while slow and ponderous, was nowhere near as bad as Varane, who repeatedly started Newcastle attacks by giving them the ball.

The only players I gave above a 2 were DDG, McT, Edi, Maguire, and Dalot, and most of them were a 3.

 

[Alemar]

Quite surprising to hear from RR that our main problem today was physicality. From the looks of it our main problem was lack of skill

 

[RoyH1]

Poor performance all round. De Gea and not much else.

 

[ForeverRed1]

Interesting to hear neville call out Ronaldo and Bruno.

 

[arthurka]

Absolutely crap, this is a true reality check for RR. All our players that went to the Euros look shocking.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

Agree completely. However, show an example of a United player stepping up and defending their teammates. Where is McGuire telling us that McTomminay is the best player that he has ever seen in training rather than a guy who spends the game hiding from a pass. Or where is Ronaldo saying that Sancho is definitely heir to the throne despite what he shows whenever picked. All they do is whinge (word of the night) and bitch at each other. Longstaff demonstrated togetherness. They are at the bottom of the league and their teamwork is far better than ours.

Because it'll be bollocks.

 

[Mullet_Man]

Remember Newcastle have played 3 games i think during the time we've had covid issues and players isolating, the lack of game time showed.

RR is going to need a lot more time to put his stamp on this team.

 

[Steve 007]

Liked the changes at half time, we were the better team in the 2nd half.
It's concerning thou how bad Bruno's form is at the moment.

I think you should re watch the game.
Newcastle should be gutted, outplayed and outclassed us.

Gutted by that performance. WTF Was that? What’s going on? Poor Ralf, the job is not one to be sorted in 6 months. All those talented players looking at the ball like it’s the first time they’ve seen a Martian.

 

[Champ]

We should have got Conte, said it beforehand and I think we’ll regret not getting him.

That's subjective, I personally don't like Conte, I don't think he's what we need.

But RR surely needs another few weeks to get things sorted, with a training ground that's fully open and a playing squad that's fully fit and free from viruses?

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

The usual agendas are on show tonight, bashing the likes of Maguire who, while slow and ponderous, was nowhere near as bad as Varane, who repeatedly started Newcastle attacks by giving them the ball.

The only players I gave above a 2 were DDG, McT, Edi, Maguire, and Dalot, and most of them were a 3.

Maguire gave the ball away so much. Also always sold out by Maguire passing it too him while he is pressed.

 

[djembatheking]

Awful performance. Lucky to get a point.

 

[FreakyJim]

I've probably written this countless of times the last decade but it's like most of our players don't want to play football. They seem to hate the sport.

Or they hate the expectations that come with playing for Manchester United.

either way, we're in for another decade or two of the same, unless some new owners emerge

 

[Che Guevara]

That De Gea wondersave and the Saint Maximin miss were the decisive moments of the match.

 

[ThemanGiggsy]

Best thing about that game is Bruno getting a yellow card and will miss the Burnley game. he has been dreadful all season.

 

[Turnip]

It was a schoolyard game. Newcastle weren't anything special despite what Sky are making it sound like. The awful passing from the players made all our attacks fall to pieces, and off the ball there didn't seem to be any actual plan. Ralf needs to stop worrying about fancy formations and tactics and get the team doing the basics right first.

I feel like we're back under LvG again, Dave is rescuing us every game while the rest of the players just have a bit of a jog around at random.

 

[bond19821982]

For all the criticism, they only had one solid chance and that was ASMs deflected knee shot in Close range. His goal was a fluke one . If they hadn't scored that goal, we would have won it.

St James Park isn't an easy place to go . They have always been our bogey team. Yes, 2 points dropped but we will move on to next game now.

 

[ForeverRed1]

don’t bite my head off here because it’s a curious question...

But what neville was just talking about regarding the changing room, has it been since we got Ronaldo in there? It always felt like that’s the one thing we had, a togetherness, it’s just gone out the window of late. Ole always had the changing room until the last couple months and it’s all in line with Ronaldo coming. I hope I’m wrong because I love him.. it’s just so odd how it’s changed so drastically of late.

take Bruno for example, he always was a positive influence on ths youngsters, always a positive impact on the team and he’s gone totally Whiney And negative of late. Not scoring, not creating, he’s like a different player this season.

I can’t work it out.

 

[Alemar]

It's concerning thou how bad Bruno's form is at the moment.

And whose form is any different at the moment (apart from de Gea)?

 

[D. Mungai]

Ralf looks and sounds beaten from that post game interview.

 

[matherto]

I may have been trying too hard to find the positives but it did look for a short while at least early on that we were winning the ball back more often...

...but we had to do that because the passing and movement was awful...

...and then we played into Newcastle's hands by pissing about with it at the back and letting the crowd and momentum get all over Varane who had an absolute mare.

Then certain players decided they didn't want to press any more and win the ball back and it spread like wildfire and all of a sudden it was caution and plodding so that we didn't get done on the counter for which we had no plan at all.

4-2-2-2 doesn't work and neither does having a four of any of Ronaldo/Rashford/Greenwood/Sancho/Bruno.

4-3-1-2/diamond might work but we need to allow the full backs to push up. Gets Bruno back behind the strikers as a ten and has cover behind him for when he gives it away. I don't care who is part of that as long as it can screen for the counter/defence.

Cavani needs to start as one of the two up front regardless of what we do cause he'll press.

Rashford needs to be dropped.

Covid isn't helping with all the time off.