[OleTheGreat]

Pretty obvious not much was going to change.

It's like getting a really expensive new piano, being a complete novice and then being annoyed 2 days later that you can barely play it despite having 2 lessons.

hahaha... you're right in many ways but I hope things can change but I also know not to get my hopes up a lot this time. The last 10 years have been more of a lesson than anything else. A new manager, a new system, haul off the bunch we now have and create a new squad of players, wait 2 years and sack this one. Frankly it is getting old. I need Sheikh Jassim to be the new owner and create a new Man Utd era before anything else changes here.

 

[gaffs]

Uh, what? Getting rid of Ronaldo was an absolute necessity and a total no-brainer. Anything else would have been an incomprehensible blunder. It wasn't just, or even primarily, about pressing. His blatant and public shows of disaffection and disloyalty would have been ample reason in itself. Not to mention his generally horrenduous performances. He was genuinely one of the worst-performing strikers in the PL that last season.

Well lets look back. While I do agree he Ronaldo wasnt on great form at the start of that season, we were winning games prior to him being benched in that 6-2 loss to City.

There was a way to manage Ronaldo and Ten Hag did is poorly - an illustration of how poor his man management was. He may have won battles with Ronaldo and Sancho, but he didn't win the war because i believe he lost respect from others in the team by disrespecting them. You can do that when you are Fergie or Pep, but not when you are an unproven manager in English football.

The fact is, Ronaldo was a better forward, even at the age of 37, then anything Ten Hag was able to field in that season. But this convo isnt for the Ipswich post match thread.

 

[justsomebloke]

Well lets look back. While I do agree he Ronaldo wasnt on great form at the start of that season, we were winning games prior to him being benched in that 6-2 loss to City.

There was a way to manage Ronaldo and Ten Hag did is poorly - an illustration of how poor his man management was. He may have won battles with Ronaldo and Sancho, but he didn't win the war because i believe he lost respect from others in the team by disrespecting them. You can do that when you are Fergie or Pep, but not when you are an unproven manager in English football.

The fact is, Ronaldo was a better forward, even at the age of 37, then anything Ten Hag was able to field in that season. But this convo isnt for the Ipswich post match thread.

I don't believe there was any way of managing Ronaldo that would have turned him into something other than a negative for the team, but you're right, this is not the place for that discussion, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[DevilRed]

ipswich in the first half played the way that amorim wanted us to play

You had tuanzebe and leif bombing down the flanks as ball carrying defenders. So effective against our lethargic players.

 

[Lee565]

We probably win this game had ruud still been in charge but obviously we are looking at the long term vision.