I think he is under mounting pressure, agree though that the problems run a lot deeper. The goalkeeper is a disaster at the moment, but nobody knew he was going to loose a whole defence and his midfield signing who may have stabalised us in there was going to end up at left back. Love Rasmus though, poor lad. We either need to get through or knocked out completely. EL is last thing we need at the moment.
CL L Champions League Group A
Manchester United 2:3 Galatasaray
Post-match discussion
Tue, 03 October 2023
Bruno simply does NOT work as the right forward. I don't know why we keep playing him there, since he's never ever had a good performance in that role. I assume Pellistri wasn't trusted after lukewarm performance against Crystal Pallace, but if somebody more senior had to play there - why not Mount? Isn't Mount supposed to be pretty good playing on the wing? At least that's what people say
So we have scored 5 goals in 2 games in the CL, but we have 0 points. I bet, there are not many, who thought that would happen. 5 goals in 2 games is really good, but when we let 7 goals in......
Mostly I feel sorry for Ten Hag. But at the same time I’m angry at him. In my opinion he constantly makes stupid tactical decisions with fx playing Bruno off position, with not benching fx Rashford or Casemiro.
But God damn injuries and players not performing doesn’t make it easy for him.
- Amrabat as left back, Jebus..
- Dalot is decent forward but horrible defensive
- Constantly an injured cb
- A new crazy under performing GK
- A cdm in Casemiro who hasn’t returned from vacation and only looks like he wants to score goal and not be a defensive midfielder(had the same issues in Madrid for a period)
- stupid idiots, who aren’t playing because of other than football related issues
- Rashford who has turned into a bad Rommedahl over the summer
We lost yesterday primarily because of individual mistakes..
But God damn injuries and players not performing doesn’t make it easy for him.
- Amrabat as left back, Jebus..
- Dalot is decent forward but horrible defensive
- Constantly an injured cb
- A new crazy under performing GK
- A cdm in Casemiro who hasn’t returned from vacation and only looks like he wants to score goal and not be a defensive midfielder(had the same issues in Madrid for a period)
- stupid idiots, who aren’t playing because of other than football related issues
- Rashford who has turned into a bad Rommedahl over the summer
We lost yesterday primarily because of individual mistakes..
Seems like Utd are legit just a Europa, dare I say conference league team? Think Liverpool and Spurs would be much better flag bearers for the prem.
If ETH is dropping players for not performing in training , what about underperforming on match day FFS half this shower wouldn’t be in the side on Saturday !!!! Drop Bruno , drop Rashford, I could go on get the young lads in show some passion , couldn’t believe Hannibal getting subbed at half time , Rasmus only player who could hold his head up
I hate the EL as well, but it might be the only realistic way we can qualify for the CL next season at this rate...as long as Seville don't drop down into the competition as well.
I was expecting an easy win for Man Utd yesterday as Gala was barely winning their last few matches.
I’m a Fenerbahçe fan and we usually hate them. But we have a point though, they like to manipulate the referees and cause drama on the pitch; spend time when they’re ahead, they play dirty, dive for nothing and ask for a card. A team with a bad spirit.
Their manager was a part of the early 2000’s dream team but his managing skills were being questioned. Well, till yesterday I should say because no one is questioning him right now and they’re ecstatic after the win, understandable.
I’ve read some of their forums and for the second match, they’re praying ETH not to get sacked+Onana and Bruno keep playing. Most of them think it will be easier to win again.
The short guy in the middle; torreira, fat icardi and zaha are praised especially in the comments. Icardi missed another penalty and scored like 5 mins later in last weekend match and he did the same here, incredible. And with that belly.
Beşiktaş has also bought a guy named Onana and he played terrible, then got injured and booked, something. They have a dreadful president and he’s blamed to bring in the wrong Onana. He’s known to transfer players by looking at the transfermarkt tab only.
so now, people argue that maybe Beşiktaş got the goalkeeper Onana and your Onana is the player one.
Altay played so bad in his last season for us but he wasn’t even that bad. Some people think if you’ve paid 50m for a keeper, he should play no matter what. But he’s maybe ruining the whole season and one season is worth more. Our guy with a funny moustache-beard combo needs a chance imo.
I’m a Fenerbahçe fan and we usually hate them. But we have a point though, they like to manipulate the referees and cause drama on the pitch; spend time when they’re ahead, they play dirty, dive for nothing and ask for a card. A team with a bad spirit.
Their manager was a part of the early 2000’s dream team but his managing skills were being questioned. Well, till yesterday I should say because no one is questioning him right now and they’re ecstatic after the win, understandable.
I’ve read some of their forums and for the second match, they’re praying ETH not to get sacked+Onana and Bruno keep playing. Most of them think it will be easier to win again.
The short guy in the middle; torreira, fat icardi and zaha are praised especially in the comments. Icardi missed another penalty and scored like 5 mins later in last weekend match and he did the same here, incredible. And with that belly.
Beşiktaş has also bought a guy named Onana and he played terrible, then got injured and booked, something. They have a dreadful president and he’s blamed to bring in the wrong Onana. He’s known to transfer players by looking at the transfermarkt tab only.
so now, people argue that maybe Beşiktaş got the goalkeeper Onana and your Onana is the player one.
Altay played so bad in his last season for us but he wasn’t even that bad. Some people think if you’ve paid 50m for a keeper, he should play no matter what. But he’s maybe ruining the whole season and one season is worth more. Our guy with a funny moustache-beard combo needs a chance imo.
2 must win games and hope Bayern do us a solid, things might look rosier after those, or we scrapping for Europa 
The personality of a football team always, after time, always reflects the personality of the manager.
It concerned me last year where we have up, our captain sulked, we stopped fighting were on the wrong end of some incredible pastings. It was early days for ETH, and the job he was being asked to do couldn't be underestimated, but I was concerned that he'd not at least managed to instill some fight and determination into the team as a starting point.
Nothing has changed attitude-wise, but it's also becoming clear that he's tactically lacking at this level, and there's absolutely zero sign of any improvement or light at the end of the tunnel.
Upcoming matches against Brentford (who will fancy coming to OT) and Sheff Utd (who would put it past us to lose there?) might just give him some breathing space if we can scrape something. But that then takes us into Copenhagen and City.
My biggest fear is that we beat Brentford and Sheff Utd and he's signed a new long-term contract before the City game...
It concerned me last year where we have up, our captain sulked, we stopped fighting were on the wrong end of some incredible pastings. It was early days for ETH, and the job he was being asked to do couldn't be underestimated, but I was concerned that he'd not at least managed to instill some fight and determination into the team as a starting point.
Nothing has changed attitude-wise, but it's also becoming clear that he's tactically lacking at this level, and there's absolutely zero sign of any improvement or light at the end of the tunnel.
Upcoming matches against Brentford (who will fancy coming to OT) and Sheff Utd (who would put it past us to lose there?) might just give him some breathing space if we can scrape something. But that then takes us into Copenhagen and City.
My biggest fear is that we beat Brentford and Sheff Utd and he's signed a new long-term contract before the City game...
They’re fecking bobbins and we had a drag out battle with them and came off second best. Absolute garbage.
Everyone hates Onana today. I get it, I will not even defend him this time. But please can we talk about Rashford solo run against the goalkeeper when he make a horrible pass to Fernandes ? Easy goal with a shot or better pass.
Amrabat with so many horrible passes. Dalot who got the wrong side of player on the goal.
So many individual mistakes, it’s unbelievable. Sorry but Varane couldn’t make a pass. Always stressed out. Casemiro is only focused on scoring goals and be out of position every game.
ETH with some odd decisions.
I don’t know what’s better, to blame it all on one player or the whole team is a mess right now.
I feel sorry for Hojlund, nearly a perfect match for him.
Amrabat with so many horrible passes. Dalot who got the wrong side of player on the goal.
So many individual mistakes, it’s unbelievable. Sorry but Varane couldn’t make a pass. Always stressed out. Casemiro is only focused on scoring goals and be out of position every game.
ETH with some odd decisions.
I don’t know what’s better, to blame it all on one player or the whole team is a mess right now.
I feel sorry for Hojlund, nearly a perfect match for him.
2 must win games and hope Bayern do us a solid, things might look rosier after those, or we scrapping for Europa
If we defeat Copenhagen home and away we will be in a solid position in the group. Bayern will at least defeat Galatasaray once if not twice.
Going out from the group is still in our hands and we are lucky we aren't in a tougher group.
However, you never know with United.
Yeah. Other than those, we've looked more like a mid-table team.
Even if we beat Copenhagen twice, which is a tough task due to our shite away form (and home I guess) we have Galatasaray away and Bayern at home to come. We have to win at least 3 of those games
Onana spamming long balls to their CBs was quite irritating. Just get the ball down and play you knobheads, you're all good players. But taking Rashford off and carrying on going attacking after we went 2-1 up doesn't seem like it was the best plan. Better than being defensive all game of course but there has to be a happy medium somewhere.
So in which games would you say that we've played well?
What did EtH say?
Who cares if another team would be a better flag bearer for the prem? It's not like I want a prem team to win the CL if Utd don't.
Im having this sinking feeling that I see a bunch of men in Manchester United jerseys, but very few of them are a true part of the club.
We really should defeat Bayern at home going by their form but as I said, you never know with United.
Aye. And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon.
The way our owners are milking us, not sure I want us in EL or CL.
Meh. We will be fine. There are flashes of a good team in there. Top 4 this year again
Same old bollox. Players coming out with the usual post match drivel. I'm abundantly aware that there are many large issues at United, but in its simplest form: these players do not look like they train with one another week in week out. Whatever the hell that means I don't know. I'm not a coach or tactician, but I know what I see before my eyes.
I don’t like player power any more than you do however, is it not true that ETH does have his favourites why should Antony play more than Sancho when it’s clear who has the highest ceiling, Sancho has produced much better stats in the bundersliga compared to Antony Average stats in the Dutch league added to the fact the club overpaid by £40-50m when we knew he potentially had a domestic violence charge over him, that’s on ETH with his futile chase of FDJ, next if he survives he’ll try and sign M De Ligt from Bayern and we’ll realise after 3 PL games in that he’s slower than Maguire but Eric says ya ya ya ya we have Onana, Martinez and De Ligt now we play the Ajax way, we’ll Eric that’s maybe good enough to get about 10-12th in the EPL and that’s where you heading, if you keep your job !
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I thought our attack was surprisingly effective by and large last night. Its from our defensive midfield back that our issues start to amount. Obviously injuries have been a thorn in our side. Amrabat at left back says it all really. I suppose you could assume other teams fighting for top 4 will hit slumps and injuries too this season so who knows.
Close to 100 away fans in the home end beside me last night, told staff at half time. Fans openly singing and screaming with chances and goals. Not even trying to hide it, few wearing Galatasaray colours. I will contact club, not that they care. Fans should be stripped of season tickets that give them out to away fans. Disgusting, nearly kicked off when united went up in the second half.
Not with 4 defeats in 7 , not a chance if they finish 6-7th they have a good season from this point and Europa league after Christmas is doubtful, bottom of the CL group looks more likely.
Just a ridiculously bad start to the season in every respect. Awful pre-season, quite a few players patently unfit and still not really at the level they should be, injury crisis including three injured left backs, loads of off the field crap around Greenwood, Sancho and Antony, owners apparently not really interested in selling the club unless it is for a zillion dollars which has lead to huge wasted time and uncertainty in the administration of the club. Very unconvincing summer transfer business (again) too, with poor starts made by Onana and Mount especially. Plus some poor decisions like playing Amrabat as a false left-back instead of playing Dalot there and shifting Lindelof to right back where he has always looked perfectly capable.
I do think we will have a decent team come the end of the season, but this year looks like a write off already.
I do think we will have a decent team come the end of the season, but this year looks like a write off already.
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We are not fighting for top 4 and our very existence this season in the CL means five clubs from the EPL will not qualify for the CL.
Erm...were you watching on a black and white telly?!
What a f@cking shambles. Even when we start fast and play quite well, we continue to be able to contrive disaster. Most people knew we'd give Zaha a goal but to allow a side that virtually never wins away from home in the CL three points... and the difference between them when they went behind and when we did could not be more obvious.
Lindeloff had one of his worst games (and I'm a fan), Varane even worse. he was MIA - he did a fantastic impersonation of Maguire; an u-9s bit of marking for their winner and Onana, as I feared, is not an actual goalkeeper. On top of that, Fernandes did nothing of use again, Mount continues to be pointless and ETH insists a central midfielder can play at left back, even after he showed he couldn't. Rashford's miss was ridiculous and he had an awful game bar one pass.
I felt sorry for Rasmus, who was terrific throughout and Casemiro who took one for the side and stopped us going behind - forgetting that we'd give them a goal anyway.
Under normal circumstances, ETH's job would be under threat now, but I expect Laurel & Hardy to give him a contract extension by the weekend.
Lindeloff had one of his worst games (and I'm a fan), Varane even worse. he was MIA - he did a fantastic impersonation of Maguire; an u-9s bit of marking for their winner and Onana, as I feared, is not an actual goalkeeper. On top of that, Fernandes did nothing of use again, Mount continues to be pointless and ETH insists a central midfielder can play at left back, even after he showed he couldn't. Rashford's miss was ridiculous and he had an awful game bar one pass.
I felt sorry for Rasmus, who was terrific throughout and Casemiro who took one for the side and stopped us going behind - forgetting that we'd give them a goal anyway.
Under normal circumstances, ETH's job would be under threat now, but I expect Laurel & Hardy to give him a contract extension by the weekend.
We are not beating Copenhagen in Denmark or Galatasaray in Turkey !
I think he means the black shorts
We are fecked with injuries but regardless even mediocre teams are getting into that area just outside our box far too often. We need someone to take control either in midfield or stepping up from the defence. A solid January signing is a must.
Onana is also losing us games. With De Gea in net we would’ve drawn or even won yesterday. I don’t think Onana is a bad keeper but he’s playing as if he’s had very little top level experience before, and I don’t just mean the mistakes or nervousness. Why go down that early to be chipped? Why is his positioning so bad? He needs to up his game asap or we’re going to be in the shit.
Onana is also losing us games. With De Gea in net we would’ve drawn or even won yesterday. I don’t think Onana is a bad keeper but he’s playing as if he’s had very little top level experience before, and I don’t just mean the mistakes or nervousness. Why go down that early to be chipped? Why is his positioning so bad? He needs to up his game asap or we’re going to be in the shit.
With our mental weakness, we'll be blown away inside 30 minutes in Turkey
Oh, I'm pretty sure DDG would have found his own way to f@ck things up.. but yes, Onana shouldn't be starting. Can't wait for the African Cup of Nations to start...
Liverpool will walk that competition!
Scrapping to get an inevitable draw against Liverpool...not this year please2 must win games and hope Bayern do us a solid, things might look rosier after those, or we scrapping for Europa
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Score Predictions
147,37,37
- Man Utd win
- Galatasaray win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 19% Man Utd 2:1 Galatasaray
- 18% Man Utd 2:0 Galatasaray
- 12% Man Utd 1:1 Galatasaray
- 9% Man Utd 3:0 Galatasaray
- 8% Man Utd 1:0 Galatasaray
- 5% Man Utd 1:2 Galatasaray
- 5% Man Utd 3:1 Galatasaray
- 5% Man Utd 0:2 Galatasaray
- 3% Man Utd 0:0 Galatasaray
- 3% Man Utd 0:1 Galatasaray
- 3% Man Utd 4:0 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 0:9 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 1:3 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 2:3 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 5:1 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 6:0 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 6:1 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 3:3 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 9:0 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 0:3 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Galatasaray
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Galatasaray
- Possession
- 55% 45%
- Shots
- 16 15
- Shots on Target
- 5 4
- Corners
- 9 3
- Fouls
- 13 16
Referee
Ivan Kruzliak
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Antony
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replaced by Christian Eriksen
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replaced by Alejandro Garnacho
