[Tincanalley]

Yes, a few that needed a bit of extra work. But a lot of them did well

 

[GledTheRed]

Casemiro is a liability at the back
Dalot is a liability on the pitch
Antony is a liability on the planet

Agreed.

 

[redom]

You can see facets of the system starting to take shape, there's definitely some discomfort amongst the players and that'll take time to address but hopefully we can get some nice results and performances along the way to give them, and the supporters, something to believe in.

For the most part we looked pretty good tonight, it was just a lot of individual errors and missed opportunities that kept things interesting.

 

[Wolfbot]

Not bad overall, thought we looked better in possesion and the players handled the ball under pressure better than we have done at any point in the last few seasons. Some lovely intricate passages of as well.

Decent pressing at times, looked more coordinated and actually felt like we were turning the ball over and winning second balls for change.

Hojlund looked better both in terms of his goal involvements and his overall play, really impressed with him tonight.

Also enjoyed the willingness to make early substitutions and tactical tweaks by the manager.

Some negatives in dealing poorly with some of their counters and some super slack passes from the usual suspects inviting pressure.

Felt nice to see a plan though, players looking like they knew what they were doing, even if everything wasn't executed perfectly.

 

[Robertd0803]

Get in there.

Game should have been dead and buried before De Ligt came off. We made it a lot more difficult that it needed to be really towards the end.

Still though will happily take the 3 points and move on.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

Antony is the worst signing I have ever seen for this club, and aside from Ali Dia, the worst for any team, taking cost and everything into account.

 

[Dannn411]

Good win but again I feel we would be better with Amad as the right 10 and Mazraoui in the right wing back spot. Rashford was once again a liability.

 

[deef]

Hope mount stays fit, seems he can finally have an impact in this system…

Sloppy and wasteful at times but controlled the game well. Last 10 minutes were unnecessary nervy

 

[Dve]

Good performances from Ugarte, Mazraoui, Martinez, Fernandes, Amad and Højlund. Malacia needs U-21 matches. Is there a place for Rashford in this team?

 

[quadrant]

Overall, patchy. Good in parts, poor in parts, but an entertaining game with a lot of talking points.

On the plus side, Hojland had a fine game, being involved in all our goals. Mazraoui - what a dude. Watching him with those guys was like seeing a Rolls Royce glide through an Asda car park. The midfield was no longer a total void, and Ugarte did some good work. The spell either side of half time was really good. At times the defense looked composed. Mount struggled to find space, but if you watched him, he was actually making some decent runs. But in the first half at least, the entire attack looked on different wavelengths, so he never really connected. But I think there was some promise there in what he did.

The thing I liked most was how this formation generates a lot of space for wide attackers. I really think that's going be exciting for United fans to watch. Main problem was that we had Antony and Malacia in the wingback positions, so they did very little with it. But I think if Amad and, er.., well, some left wingback we don't currently own could make the most of that space, it could be a really exciting feature of our game.

On the downside, both goals spoke volumes about how unused to this formation we are. Players pulled left right and centre, with huge gaps appearing when they did. Lots of players struggling - Rashford, Garnacho, Casemiro, Antony, Malacia. While the formation is part of the problem, lets be honest, its not that different playing in a back 3. Other teams manage to switch between formations with less problem. These guys act like we've asked them to play with a rugby ball for gods sake. We need some of these guys to improve, sharpish.

Plenty to chew over, but enough positives to leave me happy.

 

[Fts 74]

Enjoyed that, overall we completely dominated the game but very wasteful again.A bit sloppy in parts but that's to be expected.Ugarte, Hojlund and Mazraoui very good.Nice to have a proactive manager!

 

[foolsgold]

We don't win this game under Ten Hag

 

[meninred]

Some media outlets were saying Amorim switched to back four. Did he ?

 

[hellhunter]

Some media outlets were saying Amorim switched to back four. Did he ?

No, Casemiro went into central defense

 

[Dempsey19]

Experimenting with Antony as a footballer should stop after tonight. He's just dreadful.

 

[Shiva87]

Shite. I don't know how you take anything positive from that.

It's not management. You can't do anything with the absolute rubbish we have polluting most of the pitch.

Huh? Really

 

[AltiUn]

Why does Cas have to come on and try the Hollywood pass every time, keep it on the fecking ground lad

 

[AltiUn]

Shite. I don't know how you take anything positive from that.

It's not management. You can't do anything with the absolute rubbish we have polluting most of the pitch.

We were all over them haha

 

[stu_1992]

Entertaining but stressful game. Obviously glad we got the win but would preferred something a lot more comfortable. Can't complain about scoring 3 goals, but defensively we did not look good at times. They looked a bit lost there and a better team will punished us more.

Very impressed with Hojlund and Mount, and Mazraoui also looked great in the ball.

Unreal to see Malacia back. He was very involved first half too. Unfortunately got burned on pace for one of their goals, but hopefully that's because he's rusty. Overall the squad is getting bigger right now. Shaw, Mainoo and Mount back in it too. Yoro not far off it seems.

 

[RDCR07]

We got to get better at finishing obviously. We could have scored 5 easily. How can we be collectively so bad at finishing?

 

[bushyzor]

Ugarte was man of the match for me. Constantly breaking up play, making tackles, and some great passing. Dominated the middle of the park.
I found both Antony and Malacia very frustrating in that they kept cutting inside and didn’t want to take their man on the outside and try cross. We are going to have to keep experimenting with different players for the wingback positions to see what works.
I can’t wait for Mainoo to get a game, I think the system will suit him.

 

[WouterWeghorst]

Some media outlets were saying Amorim switched to back four. Did he ?

He let the wingback (Dalot) and the 10 switch in possession for a few minutes and the weirdo on TNT couldn't stop talking about it.

 

[Shiva87]

Why does Cas have to come on and try the Hollywood pass every time, keep it on the fecking ground lad

Super crazy what he was doing!

 

[BarstoolProphet]

The funniest thing about that second half was United wasted so many chances...

...yet I can't remember Hojlund being guilty of it.

As soon as Holjund scored our third we stopped making chances for him. Every single forward player was guilty of guilty wastefulness, especially Garnacho. A bit less selfishness, Hojlund gets an easy cut back and we win easily.

Made it tough for ourselves. Again.

Tbh, the one time Garnacho blasted it with his left, he only got the ball because Rasmus was unable to control it - otherwise he would have raced through on his own. His technique lets him down because he is a good finisher.

 

[Eagle_eye]

Some improvement from last Sunday, we pressed better and had some decent patterns of play and created more chances. Also nice to see Malacia, Shaw, and Mount get minutes. Now he's had a look at most players, it would be good to settle on an 11..

 

[groovyalbert]

So fecking wasteful. Should have scored twice as many. Our finishing is horrific.

 

[RedFanaticTattooist]

Unpopular opinion. I'm not entirely happy with Amorim so far. (Although i support him full time). I understrand what he wants from the team, I get that his favourite formation is 3-4-3 but... He should see that he does not have the right players for that. At the moment 3-4-3 seems like some kind of suicidal formation with Malacia, Antony (khm....) and whoever else on the sides. Luckily our opponent was the 42 million euro Bodo/Glimt so we could score some goals (was nice to see Hojlund finally being fed by the others) but the defense was just as tough as a wet sponge. Against a better team (not to mention a top team...) it could have been a disastrous loss too. As they say the squad determines the tactics not the other way round, and forcing to play 3-4-3 with players who don't fit and will be sold as soon as possible maybe not the wisest of idea.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Go…

Update the Match Day thread, pleeese

 

[Natener]

Good performances from Ugarte, Mazraoui, Martinez, Fernandes, Amad and Højlund. Malacia needs U-21 matches. Is there a place for Rashford in this team?

This team needs high intensity and workrate to succeed. I don’t believe Rashford has it in him, certainly not for more than 10min a game.

 

[Zed 101]

Poor finishing second half made the game closer than it should have been.
Malacia just done for pace and strength, but De ligt should have committed earlier instead caught in no mans land.
Malacia was decent in attack but if he cannot improve physically he is not going to be useful as a wing back.
Hoijlund showing what he can do in a real system.
Antony worked hard but really offers nothing other than hold up play.
The negatives, we still look leggy, and things are not quite there by instinct
The positives, our passing is faster and tidier, pressing more as a unit, actual patterns of play and clear chances being created.
I would say Bodo are on par with Ipswich certainly better than the bottom of the prem teams, we looked better today if not 100% we at least showed signs of significant improvement.

 

[Tincanalley]

Ye olde ship Caf seems to have sprung a leak. Enjoyable game. The Norwegian side were good. Bruno played well. Mount. Onana made some great saves. But Maz, Hojlund, Ugarte, Mount were great. Reasons to be hopeful.

 

[RuudTom83]

Unbeaten in 6 games now (Ruud+Amorim) with a +9 GD

Amazingly United scored a goal with a bit of creative play and sliced through a defence...which is a rarity.

Holjund looked like one hell of a CF tonight and all I ask is he plays like that more regularly.

Classic United have to entertain the neutrals and WUM.

All in all a great night.

 

[AdNani]

You can clearly see a style emerging,

I think Martinez might be the most under threat when Yoro is fit because Mazraoui is brilliant.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

You can clearly see a style emerging,

I think Martinez might be the most under threat when Yoro is fit because Mazraoui is brilliant.

I think there is a fair chance we will see Mazraoui moved further forward into one of the wing back slots with Amad in one of the number 10 spots.

(Obviously all total speculation at this point)

 

[Tincanalley]

Shaw will come good too, I sense

 

[AdNani]

I think there is a fair chance we will see Mazraoui moved further forward into one of the wing back slots with Amad in one of the number 10 spots.

(Obviously all total speculation at this point)

Yeah, possibly, did he not play with 1 winger in a WB spot and a naturel full back in the other?

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Unpopular opinion. I'm not entirely happy with Amorim so far. (Although i support him full time). I understrand what he wants from the team, I get that his favourite formation is 3-4-3 but... He should see that he does not have the right players for that. At the moment 3-4-3 seems like some kind of suicidal formation with Malacia, Antony (khm....) and whoever else on the sides. Luckily our opponent was the 42 million euro Bodo/Glimt so we could score some goals (was nice to see Hojlund finally being fed by the others) but the defense was just as tough as a wet sponge. Against a better team (not to mention a top team...) it could have been a disastrous loss too. As they say the squad determines the tactics not the other way round, and forcing to play 3-4-3 with players who don't fit and will be sold as soon as possible maybe not the wisest of idea.

My concern as well, a great coach gets the best out of his players and does not stick to a certain formation. Amorim is stuck with most of the players, I cannot see us selling a lot of players to generate a lot of income. Hopefully Shaw and Yoro will add pace to the back line. Wingback is a major concern.

 

[Camy89]

Dalot will be the sole reason I develop a life threatening aneurysm.

 

[Ayoba]

Some positive signs, I enjoyed the way we attacked from 20 mins - 60 mins.

Some negatives, I feel we're still far too open at the back.

But 2 games in, new manager, new formation, I am seeing the progress.

 

[justsomebloke]

Overall, patchy. Good in parts, poor in parts, but an entertaining game with a lot of talking points.

On the plus side, Hojland had a fine game, being involved in all our goals. Mazraoui - what a dude. Watching him with those guys was like seeing a Rolls Royce glide through an Asda car park. The midfield was no longer a total void, and Ugarte did some good work. The spell either side of half time was really good. At times the defense looked composed. Mount struggled to find space, but if you watched him, he was actually making some decent runs. But in the first half at least, the entire attack looked on different wavelengths, so he never really connected. But I think there was some promise there in what he did.

The thing I liked most was how this formation generates a lot of space for wide attackers. I really think that's going be exciting for United fans to watch. Main problem was that we had Antony and Malacia in the wingback positions, so they did very little with it. But I think if Amad and, er.., well, some left wingback we don't currently own could make the most of that space, it could be a really exciting feature of our game.

On the downside, both goals spoke volumes about how unused to this formation we are. Players pulled left right and centre, with huge gaps appearing when they did. Lots of players struggling - Rashford, Garnacho, Casemiro, Antony, Malacia. While the formation is part of the problem, lets be honest, its not that different playing in a back 3. Other teams manage to switch between formations with less problem. These guys act like we've asked them to play with a rugby ball for gods sake. We need some of these guys to improve, sharpish.

Plenty to chew over, but enough positives to leave me happy.

Bodø/Glimts narrow shape was what generated a lot of space for the wide attackers. Smart choice too, given how poor Malacia and Antony was.