So finishing top 4 is priority over winning a major trophy because it might be more realistic - the logic is nutsIt's really not. It's a trophy that could jeopardize our chances of top 4, which are more realistic. I agree that the EL is winnable, and it would be great to win a trophy, but top 4 via the league is easier, especially if we don't have a squad that's running on fumes.
I want us to get thrashed, hammered, decimated, destroyed, humiliated. How's that for a strange take, honey buns?
Keane and Scholes.One way to look at it is Casemiro gets a well deserved rest.
If we are going to win trophies again we have to learn to win games like Arsenal without certain players through the season. We lost Roy Keane in the semi in 99 and the rest is history.
Looking forward to Sunday, to sea what the boss comes up with.
Loving every bit of this year with the more ups than downs.
Personally I thought the elbow was a red, we should have had a penalty and the freekick should have been disallowed after VAR took a look at where it was taken from but after everyone made a massive deal about Bruno's goal last week we were never going to get anything last night.Tough draw, but that was a great EPL match and why the league is so great.
Annoyed this AM, especially after seeing how the free kick was moved up (what a strike).
Also, any talk about the elbow to Licha? That was brutal, in my humble opinion.
I worry about how tired we will be for Arsenal, but can't wait for the match.
Onward and upward....
I'd email the Ref's association and ask them to explain these images and why they think it's acceptable when they have VAR also.Twice now this season we've done with this. Club needs to complain about it.
Feels weird to still be this angry about a result the next morning. Haven't felt this way for a long time, good sign as it means I'm believing in this club again.
feck it, shit happens. We regroup and try to win against Arsenal on the weekend.
Never really went for the second goal in the second half and paid the price.
Really poor second half, nobody to blame but ourselves, blaming it on the referee or VAR is just making excuses.
Care to articulate? Its not an uncommon opinion, I know some United fans personally who think he's awful - I wouldnt go that far but he is a liability at times
He's undoubtedly an effective player but is he the sort of player you want on the pitch when you're leading an away game 1-0? For me, it comes down to decision making and maturity and he is lacking in both areas.
Or maybe you're not. Hell, even our scouts alluded to it before we signed him, it's a well known statistic, he just glosses over it as we score/make a clear cut chance when that pass does come off.
The day after and I still feel frustrated. Draws and losses are part of the game. However, injury time goals are really hard to swallow. Awful time to concede a goal, no time to get the winner. I can't wait for Sunday's game, yeah, the players and staff need rest, but the Palace game needs to get out of my system.
Took almost three hours to get to sleep last night because I was so peed off and frustrated by the result!
We can’t overlook how much the City match took out of the players.
Didn't look like it so much in first half
I think it did. We were certainly playing within ourselves, trying to control things, barely stepping out of first gear. Not that we played poorly, but it was very much a slower tempo.
Didn't look like it so much in first half
No. It was, curiously, in many ways a very dominant performance. I mean, there was no doubt that you were watching a game where one team was clearly and obviously of superior quality to the other. When the momentum ebbed in the second half, it didn't really feel like Palace was getting back into the game or taking it over, it just felt like United was conserving energy and gently but firmly steering the game towards stasis, a mode of fewer things happening. That we allowed a goal like that so late - that's basically just luck. It can always happen when you haven't put the game away, and yesterday it did.
If I try to pinpoint a weak area, it's how few big chances we produced. For the first time since the WC, that looked like it did a couple of months ago. Our xG backs that up too (1.39). Can't draw too many conclusions from a single game, but the logical issue to home in on there (but which seems to receive little attention) is how did Weghorst impact our attack? Much too early to conclude, but not a promising start either in terms of individual performance or systemic impact.
We failed to beat palace with him playing 90 mins. If our forwards are off it against Arsenal as much as they were last night, then it won't make a difference who starts in midfield.
Glass half full take: we played like shite in the 2nd half, lost control of the game, still almost saw it out. A draw after a worldie free kick. Defense looked really strong all night. Lisandro is back. Maybe this will give us more desire to get a result v Arsenal. AWB looks excellent and suddenly a very competent back up. Had several chances for a 2nd goal, unlucky.
Glass half empty: Casemiro lost for Arsenal match. Antony, I’m convinced, is a complete bust, adding absolutely nothing. Completely one-footed. Depth is an issue. So much for “title contender.” The drop off between Eriksen/ Casemiro to McFred makes me want to vomit. Rashford is now in his own head. Lost several chances due to lack of ball movement among the forward line. Wout is an abysmal fit. He offered nothing beyond competent hold up play.
Can we bring Sancho back and send Antony to wherever he went? I much prefer Sancho to Antony.
Bring back José with LVG as assistant.Has ETH taken us as far as he can? Is it time an experienced hand was given the job?
In the Premier League yes, but we beat them March 3/1 there in 2019 in the FA cup and let's be honest that game last season when we lost there, that team was dire and playing nothing like we are now and we all mostly agree here that team this time last year had down tools for Ralf, which is what I base my opinion on, as no point in using games prior 2021 as the teams are different and different style of play from both.- Arsenal missed two key players.
- Last time United win @ Emirates was 6 years ago.
We had chance to get winner but unfortunately it fecking well hit Casa's thigh
You joke, but referees will use that to play safe and give us no decisions and pundits will keep saying that they got rub off the green against City. I won't be surprised if we are talking about the Rashford goal next season as well.
Every bad result and football managers are all out on this forum. This people would have made every right decision so no one can make a mistake as it’s not in their nature. They are not human but perfect transhumans using their keyboard to show us what is the next phase of evolution.Was seeing constant Ten Hag abuse in that thread, Casemiro being called brainless and all kinds of names, all it takes is one bad result and this place turns to a clown show.
I agree 100%. It will be HEARTBREAKING to play our backup squad against friggin Barca (we don't get to play them too often), and give up on Europa League, but for the long-term rebuild of the club it will be so much more devastating to miss out on top 4 and champions league next year. We need to concentrate on the EPL top 4. Winning Europa League is also a way to get to UCL but the chances of that are so much thinner compared to fighting for top 4...This is definitely a concern. We could actually do with losing to Barca. It would allow us to recover for league games. I think we are good enough to get top 4 if we're fit, so Europa League, while nice to win it, is not a priority, imo.
Took almost three hours to get to sleep last night because I was so peed off and frustrated by the result!
Robert Jones