Mark_GrumpyLion
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Good game, bottled it in the end. Such a shame.
Unforgivable Jackson playing Costa onside. One moment of mental weakness undid the entire result.
Oh well. I've been shipped out since December, it's all about waiting for next season really. LVG doesn't have it in him to make the top 4, yet alone challenge for the league.
Shades of the infamous 5-3 performance against the Champions elect of this season. Thought we were delight till the last half hour or so, real shame. Football is a 90 minute game. You can't expect to win matches by turning up for two thirds of the game. Poor performance, overall.
Van Gaal's management and tactics were poor after we scored. We stopped using Martial who was terrorizing them. Memphis should done better with that ball. Showed Zero footballing IQ either go to the corner flag or use a high percentage pass to Morgan. He basically bailed the Renties out with the poorest pass possible.
Yep. Was good. More so in second half.
There were definitely a lot of plus points, however the manager messed up again. Putting Memphis on against a side who have you under the cosh, when he has had sod all football was utter madness. There is an U-21 game tomorrow, why isn't he getting some match fitness in those games, like Januzaj is having to. Is it below Memphis to do that?Really disappointed not to win today but I would've definitely taken a draw before the match. We played so well for majority of the game, if we play like this in the coming weeks and hope those above us drop points then we have a great chance of making top four.
Really disappointed not to win today but I would've definitely taken a draw before the match. We played so well for majority of the game, if we play like this in the coming weeks and hope those above us drop points then we have a great chance of making top four.
There were definitely a lot of plus points, however the manager messed up again. Putting Memphis on against a side who have you under the cosh, when he has had sod all football was utter madness. There is an U-21 game tomorrow, why isn't he getting some match fitness in those games, like Januzaj is having to. Is it below Memphis to do that?
There were definitely a lot of plus points, however the manager messed up again. Putting Memphis on against a side who have you under the cosh, when he has had sod all football was utter madness. There is an U-21 game tomorrow, why isn't he getting some match fitness in those games, like Januzaj is having to. Is it below Memphis to do that?
I'am not a WUM
It is how I honestly feel about United at this moment, I think we are one of the shittiest teams in the league since december and the results are a proof of that.
The thing about this whole situation bothering me the most is some fans being positive about this, calling today a good performance, are you having a laugh ? You'd be right about it if we were playing Chelsea from last season or anyother season but this year they are 14th in the league and just about anyother team has been taking away 3 points from but not us. In my opnion this was another boring game of shit football, lateral passing, no creativity, no quality but you are right if you'd say we were the better team on the pitch for first 70 minutes (because Chelsea were so poor) and getting the lead, then throwing it away because we can't handle any sort of pressure.
-We are boring as feck
-We can't handle pressure if teams start playing forward
-No creativity or quality in the team
-No desire/drive/energy in the team
-We have 14 on 36 since december (played 12, won 3, drawn 5 and lost 4)
-Out of the CL
-6 points away from 4th place and 12 points away from first place
How the feck do people still find a spin to say anything positive about this ? Honestly I hated watching this game, I didn't think we deserved to win, last 20 minutes were terrible, apart from goal Lingard and shot from Martial not seen any chances worth mentioning and all that against a team currently in 14th place. People talking about it like this is still the unbeatable Chelsea, it is not. This shit is worrying and massively disappointing. People still getting a positive spin on it, sorry but you are putting the standards for the club ridiculously low. I feel outraged watching this shower shite, but somehow there is always fans still applauding and saying it was a good performance, it is fecking not, simple as that !
You would happily take a draw against nr14
Dear god help us all...
This is how I felt in the southamption game. Felli has been through a very poor run of form but as soon as he came off vs sotn I said we would lose to a set piece. He's so important in the box vs a side like chelsea. We are so weak in the air it is crazy. Guess LVG has never had to play in a league where teams do often sit in their box and try nick a header. Hard to manage that with our squad without felli on the pitch
This match was always going to be tight. United haven't won at the Bridge in years and always get fecked in the end. Form and table position go out the window against the likes of City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Livershite, etc. It's scrappy, it's always on edge.
You have poor perspective and selective memory when it comes to criticizing LVG and the current squad.
Outside of December, the play hasn't been that boring as you claim. But it was effective and United got results. United didn't handle the pressure well at the end, but Chelsea gave it to them, so fair play. United handled Chelsea's pressure before the goal and eventually Chelsea broke through, fine.
And to say the players or team have no creativity, quality or desire/drive is over the top. Take a nap, take a shit. You're over the top.
Me, for oneHiddink was the manager who made the right subs and tactical changes; that was the difference in the match.
Who'd have thought we'd look worse after subbing Felli off?
I can understand the Memphis change. Lindgard looked done and we needed someone capable of receiving and running with the ball. If Memphis hadn't messed up the simplest of passes we'd be praising the substitution.
We are playing like an average team. Apart from Martial there is none in the team showing any sort of attacking quality at all. Our only ture quality player is DDG. Pretty poor for a team that should be competiting for the title and has one of the most expensive squad in the league.
If I'am talking shite, then you are lowering the standards so low it is a fecking joke.
Fellani gets a lot of shit here but he has been very good for us.
its van Gaal that needs to be subbed.
Damn, I came on here feeling kind of positive. No it was a late goal, sickening time etc but was impressed by how we played most of the game and CBJ good despite positional error for last goal. He's young, I'll forgive him. Guess that's how much my expectations have been lowered
He'll go in the summer. No point getting rid before then. That said, top four looks ropey...but I doubt an interim manager will do much better.
forget top 4. just want to see us play attacking football...maybe teh FA Cup and Europa Cup....but then..its van Gaal.
Yeah but last two games weren't that bad. Patience till the end of the season.
fair enough. The problem is we are 6 points off the team above us and none of them look like they will be collapsing.
What are we...12 behind Lecister? painful. van Gaal will never be forgotten...for the wrong reasons.
The two subs with fresh legs got into position to kill the game or at least threaten Chelsea's goal, but obviously the execution was complete shit.
The team does need more quality overall, there's no denying that. But it's not as dire as many people think.
United has an expensive squad, so what. You have to pay to replace the immense talent United have lost the past 3 or 4 years. They didn't do it gradually and that's their fault.
United's standards are always to win the league and try to give themselves a chance in any other competition. The quality on the pitch is currently not good enough, but it's improved from Year Moyes.
Losing was somehow a different kind of disappointment to other games where we've dropped points this season. Frustrating disappointment as opposed to depressing disappointment.
Under Moyes we had also 41 points at this stage (9 feb 2014)
I don't see any differences between the two sides. Under Moyes we looked clueless, under LVG we look teethless. Only signficant difference is LVG has had more time with the team and he has spend alot more money. Feels like it has all been a waste because seeing no improvement at all, none whatsoever. We were midtable under Moyes, we are midtable under LVG (even last season we were midtable performance).
To four are playing each other next week. We've got Arsenal after the Sunderland game. If we've truly improved we've got a chance to get in the top four. City, WHU and Spurs away won't be easy mind but who knows eh. I think a top four will give us a decent platform for Mourinho.
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