Needed a win and got it. This wasn't a game where possession or other stats mattered. With a dreadful injury crisis, and confidence that had to be rock bottom after that start to the season, we needed three points to get the ball rolling again. A few more wins will transform the mood around the club.
I think it's hard to overstate an injury crisis that sees us starting without our first choice back 4, our back up left back, our fourth choice centre back, both of our midfield summer signings added to the fact that our right wing position is cursed and we were without our 3 best players who can play there.Yes obviously, but we also need to function at a certain level as a football team and it IS possible to have more than one thought in ones mind at the same time.
Injury crisis - yes, but let's not overdo that. Other than Reguilon, who was specifically brought in as cover for a long term injury situation, the only two players who weren't supposed to be regularly appearing for United were Evans and Hannibal. And they weren't the problem here.
1. You can’t convert? Would you like a percentage? Did you miss the point? Or did you gather that we’ve spent much more than they have?1) why use a combination of Euros and Pounds?
2) United have wasted money over the past decade. What does that have to do with anything?
3) If you don’t understand why having 11 of the first team squad out of action, including 3 of your back 4, makes a difference on how you play then you need to have a wobble of your head
Gladly taking the points! Doubts are starting to creep in. I don’t like this team right now. Hopefully they can rise.It is, and over the course of the season he'll obviously have to do so, but given the circumstances and the pressure we were under to come away with the win today, just take the points on move on to the next match. Before the game in the matchday thread, people had already given up the points and were demanding to know why we weren't playing academy players instead of Evans.
Yes obviously, but we also need to function at a certain level as a football team and it IS possible to have more than one thought in ones mind at the same time.
Injury crisis - yes, but let's not overdo that. Other than Reguilon, who was specifically brought in as cover for a long term injury situation, the only two players who weren't supposed to be regularly appearing for United were Evans and Hannibal. And they weren't the problem here.
Rashford is genuinely a stupid player. How does he decide to shoot when there’s 4 players in front of him and Casemiro to the right free on goal.
We had slightly more of the ball in the second half, but still only finished with 38%. Look, possession isn’t everything, but you’d think we’d have more. For the second half, we started well, but really between 75th minute in, we began to defend deep and it was pretty porous back there. A better team would’ve bagged a couple.It actually did yes because I weighed up all caveats coming into the game and during it too.
sometimes cliché are correct and winning ugly when you’ve been up against it is exactly what’s needed and that is absolutely the case tonight. Although 2nd half I genuinely thought we played a very good half. 1st half was more concerning.
I’m saying the performance was uninspiring. Do you disagree?Do you even know what you’re saying yourself? I definitely don’t.
1. You can’t convert? Would you like a percentage? Did you miss the point? Or did you gather that we’ve spent much more than they have?
2. Nothing. But presumably, we’d have to say that we’ve bought proven players.
3. That’s a coaching issue, no? Isn’t having your 2nd/3rd choice side be well drilled seems like solid coaching? Even our 2nd choice players are presumably held in high regard vs Burnley’s side?
I’m saying the performance was uninspiring. Do you disagree?
It was the right pass to make. He missed it. That’s on Marcus. I would take a shot at closer range with a poor striker of the ball rather than a strike from outside the box.He wasn’t free on goal at all, this is nonsense. Rashford is also a much better striker of the ball and accepted the responsibility.
DamnHamstring i think
Just thought I’d give an opinion if that’s alright with you?! We’re so bad and people like you can’t see it… LVG/Mourinho got slammed for these kind of performances and now you’re saying it’s some kind of masterclass? I’m happy we got the win but if we’d of played a top halve team we’d of lost playing like thatCongratulations to them.
Why bother posting this just to shit on the team, does it make you feel happier?
We're in a slump of form, it's evident we tried being to shore it up at the back tonight and this won't be the last time. I'd say the next two games are going to be gritty performances in which we grind out wins, then we'll try and open it up a bit more.
Your opinion is to shit on the team, great but its nothing we dont read in every other thread, it's grating. Where did I say I didn't see it or it was some kind of masterclass? I didn't so, I actually said we're in a slump of form so try reading my comment again.Just thought I’d give an opinion if that’s alright with you?! We’re so bad and people like you can’t see it… LVG/Mourinho got slammed for these kind of performances and now you’re saying it’s some kind of masterclass? I’m happy we got the win but if we’d of played a top halve team we’d of lost playing like that
Woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning pal? I might of mis read it as I’m allergic to reading crap..Your opinion is to shit on the team, great but its nothing we dont read in every other thread, it's grating. Where did I say I didn't see it or it was some kind of masterclass? I didn't so, I actually said we're in a slump of form so try reading my comment again.
ThisWas just about to name our list of unavailable players myself. Were people really expecting a cohesive team performance when our squad is ravaged with injuries and returning from an away European tie?! Our entire back 4 was missing from our starting lineup today ffs! Remember when Liverpool had Van Dijk and Matip injured and lost 6 home games on the spin? Swear some people just love whinging for the sake of it.
I think it's hard to overstate an injury crisis that sees us starting without our first choice back 4, our back up left back, our fourth choice centre back, both of our midfield summer signings added to the fact that our right wing position is cursed and we were without our 3 best players who can play there.
I will admit that I'm not totally sold on Ten Hag, but this isn't the time to judge him or our style of play. If we get a few of those players back and we're still playing like this in a couple of weeks though then it will definitely be a real cause for concern.
Quite a few positives to take from last night.
A clean sheet and good performance for Onana
Hannibal had a good game, the prospect of an extra option in midfield is huge
Evans had a great game, again huge to have another defensive option
Debut for Armabat, albeit very short
Casemiro starting to look like an actual player again
In general it’s a good boost to grind out a routine win with minimal drama, away especially
Main concern would be Rashford’s form and the fact he is seemingly undroppable. With a striker now signed and Rashford’s unwillingness to play out of position I can’t see how Garnacho gets a start unless he’s injured?
Hojlund looks very raw still but in a coachable way, I hope.
He’s sort of the opposite of Weghorst in that he seems to have the required technical attributes but needs to train his brain, Weghorst usually knew what to do but was physically incapable of doing it.
The more pertinent question is why did all those Burnley players get back but only Casemiro made any real effort to get forward in support of the break. Whilst this screenshot is doing the rounds, the more relevant point is that it was all claret shirts around our player.Rashford is genuinely a stupid player. How does he decide to shoot when there’s 4 players in front of him and Casemiro to the right free on goal.
Also McTominay. And he was a big part of the problem. As usual.
1-0 win with an extraordinary individual effort for a goal . Other than that no clear cut chance.
Rashford gets far more stick around here than he deserves, and there's no reason he should even be considered dropped in my opinion. Certainly not for Garnacho, who was far worse in his two starts than Rashford's been.
Don’t think we were ever in dangerYeah. Pretty much played off the pitch. The had superior possession and xG, played better generally. It is possible to win and still look like crap
Very weird you missed Evans in the good. Thought he was outstanding.Good:
Hannibal - I thought he did a decent job, even though apparently having vaguely Fellaini style hair apparently means having a vaguely Fellaini style first touch.
Hoijland - He had a poor game but I like that he still puts himself about, makes the right runs, and gets into the right positions. It should be a bare minimum but we all know if off form Martial had been on the pitch instead, it would have been exactly the same as off form Martial not being on the pitch instead.
Onana - didn't follow up a blunder by making another one in the very next game, which sounds simple but is something a lot of goalkeepers seem to fail at.
Also great goal.
Bad:
McTominay - The main reason we couldn't establish any control over the game is because he couldn't establish any control over himself. It looked like he was being controlled by someone playing Fifa on a dial up connection, using a controller where every button is the tackle button.
Dalot - Honestly if I was his manager I'd ban him from playing any pass that wasn't forwards. The amount of times a game he plays a sideways pass across the pitch for absolutely no reason, that also inexplicably cuts out half his team and finds an opposition forward, is utterly baffling. Baffling is also the wrong word. More correct words would be "shite" or "infuriating". Every game he plays we'll have a spell of being under pressure directly from him doing this.
The officiating - Ref kept ignoring blatant (if petty) fouls by Burnley then giving the exact same fouls in their favour just because the crowd would make a noise. Then the offside rule changed mid game for already about the 10th time this season. It really has reached a point where its making the games much harder to enjoy. I wouldn't mind that goal being disallowed but within a couple of weeks the same thing will happen in another game, in the same competition, and it wont be...this already has happened a couple of weeks before. If the officials can't even remember how the rules work from one week to the next we'd be better off just not having any.
Also shite game
Overall:
I'll take it in the circumstances but it didn't really answer any questions. We didn't really learn anything new. We saw that Hannibal works hard, Bruno can score good goals, and that we can play rubbish when we have injuries. I did feel fairly comfortable that we would end up winning for most of the game, but that was more because Burnley just looked like the sort of team that try hard then lose anyway. No insanity from Ten Hag but his in game management has basically been reduced to replacing the injured player with whoever it is that's left and not under some kind of disciplinary/criminal investigation.
Yes obviously, but we also need to function at a certain level as a football team and it IS possible to have more than one thought in ones mind at the same time.
Injury crisis - yes, but let's not overdo that. Other than Reguilon, who was specifically brought in as cover for a long term injury situation, the only two players who weren't supposed to be regularly appearing for United were Evans and Hannibal. And they weren't the problem here.
Very weird you missed Evans in the good. Thought he was outstanding.
The more pertinent question is why did all those Burnley players get back but only Casemiro made any real effort to get forward in support of the break. Whilst this screenshot is doing the rounds, the more relevant point is that it was all claret shirts around our player.
Bruno Fernandes
Hannibal Mejbri
Casemiro
Andre Onana
Diogo Dalot
Jonny Evans
Scott McTominay
Tony Harrington
replaced by Raphael Varane
replaced by Sofyan Amrabat
