[ForeverUnited93]

This club is a joke now, Mourinho has to leave, his tactics and style of play are atrocious, and my god there’s some players in this team lucky to be at United.

Where’s the heart? The hunger? The drive? There’s nothing from the players, I’m getting fecking sick of it, shame shit now for 3 seasons.

City already after 2 games are miles ahead and so much better than us now it’s bloody embarrassing!!!!!

 

[Moonwalker]

Lies! The problem today was attitude plain and simple. Fergie used to have worse teams with worse quality. But they got through due to having the right attitude to their jobs. Attitude is everything in football. Today Brighton won because of the right attitude to their work! It has feck all today with coaching

Yeah, Fergie was lucky like that forever stumbling on poor footballers with the right attitude. If only other managers had the serendipity.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Yeah, Fergie was lucky like that forever stumbling on poor footballers with the right attitude. If only other managers had the serendipity.

what an idiotic reply.

 

[Handsome Devil]

The players let the manager down big time today.

The board let the manager let the players let the manager let the board down today....it's just a circle of sh*t at the moment and they are all basically letting us down.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

You've done a fantastic job at simplifying the purpose of a coaching staff. I disagree entirely.

I do not see how you can seriously attempt to argue that the coaching staff is to blame for the likes of Bailly and Pogba for example playing like they did to day. For me that's a none starter. I can blame them for a defeat based on organisational and systemic ineptitude. But Never for a blatantly obvious poverty of attitude to work from their charges

 

[steffyr2]

There was a tweet from a journo showing video of our team practicing a rondo. That in itself show how poor our players are at one touch passing. We have appointed past it managers who have forgotten how to train the players. We should not make another mistake of hiring a manager, we need a coach desperately.

Or perhaps we should stop spending millions on players who suck at one touch passing.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Have any of the players gone on social media yet and made the cliched "we have to improve" posts that get recycled after every loss?

 

[AltiUn]

Usually I like to avoid comments like this but we were really rubbish today, only positive for me was that Shaw played fine. I know Lindelof and Bailly will get a lot of flak, deservedly, but I thought Pogba and Martial were very disappointing today. There was a real lack of desire for the win today and I can’t understand what on earth was going through Bailly’s mind today, he was very, very poor today.

 

[siw2007]

One of the worst performances I have seen from United in a long time. There have been times when we have been very poor but then there is this which was absolutely terrible. The attitude of the players was disgraceful, they really were not with it, compared to Brighton who gave their all. The approach was poor again with our very slow build up play which compounded our problems. Today, the team and the manager deserve equal blame.

With storm brewing within the club at the moment, its really worrying when you see such a bad display.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Or perhaps we should stop spending millions on players who suck at one touch passing.

That type of thing has been a problem with our players for years, I remember them trying to do that before one of the CL finals against Barcelona and it was awful.

 

[MrBest]

It's obvious Jose has lost his players but I don't think zidane is the answer. The only manager I would take is Poch and he is not ready to leave so rather keep Jose. As much as I cannot stand him and his draining football, i think he will grind us to 4th. I'm staying positive.

 

[Michael T]

Sh*t result, but it's only the second game of the season after a World cup and some horrendous individual errors contributed massively. Jose had already hinted at a difficult first two games, so, as pissed off as I am, I'll take it on the chin as just a shitty day at the office...

The thing is though, I'm starting to be plagued by fears that behind the scenes the atmosphere between players, manager and the club hierarchy are all pretty dire at the moment and only getting worse. Add to that Jose still living in an hotel, and, I don't know, it's like nothing feels right about anything going on at the club at the moment. And yet I know we could just as easily turn Spurs over and not lose again this year. I mean, we've got the potential in all departments, right? So, if things are really this bad only two games into a new season, and it's not just a badly timed one off crappy result, where is all this animosity coming from and how have things become so strained? Oh to be a fly on the wall inside Old Trafford at the moment.

 

[Lash]

Although this performance was abject, it is only the 2nd game and we lost this game last year and came 2nd.

We need to improve pronto and it may be a big wake up call to players like Fred, bailly, Lukaku etc who had absolute stinkers. They need to get themselves in peak condition, mentally and physically.

Honestly one of the worst performances I’ve ever watched, though I’m happy to just move on and draw a line under it after my initial fume.

 

[beergod]

There was a moment, when Afro came into play and after few minutes, someone posted how we already look better. Regardless of that being the case or not, when you think about it, thats actually scary. The moment you introduce easy, lazy, option on the table, they dont look so clueless compared to other scenarios.

Thats whats pisses me too, that we are fake, at least embrace that way of play, if you are better it then other ways, yes i might go ape shit because of it but at least i couldnt say this aint football, it would be, maybe not attractive one to the fans but its exactly that way of playing football. What we are doing atm...you cant call that a football, dunno what it is but football aint.

This group of players prefers slavery to freedom. They need the "freedom" of not having to make decisions for themselves in attack and simply doing whatever the system tells them to do. The first year was ok with Zlatan around as the "easy option", because he's Zlatan and you can mindlessly aim balls at him all day and he'll more often than not do something if he can reach it. Since Zlatan went down injured, we've looked mostly toothless and clueless in attack.

Mourinho needs to treat them like morons and stop treating them as adults who can make decisions for themselves. If he can't/won't we'll have to find someone that will.

 

[Dash247]

That was just very depressing. I don’t know if anyone else noticed but a lotta our players had their shoulders down which means lack of confidence. I actually had plans to go out but cancelled them to watch our game. I regret doing that now. We need change, We need our old attacking football back.

 

[SAred]

Less Pre Madonnas more players to play for there badge rather the than their pocket.

 

[glazed]

Feels like we have a new central midfield three learning each other's games. Too early to write it off. Lack of a decent central defender too but that's hardly Jose's fault.

 

[Sunny Jim]

Yeah, looks happy as feck

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Sh*t result, but it's only the second game of the season after a World cup and some horrendous individual errors contributed massively. Jose had already hinted at a difficult first two games, so, as pissed off as I am, I'll take it on the chin as just a shitty day at the office...

The thing is though, I'm starting to be plagued by fears that behind the scenes the atmosphere between players, manager and the club hierarchy are all pretty dire at the moment and only getting worse. Add to that Jose still living in an hotel, and, I don't know, it's like nothing feels right about anything going on at the club at the moment. And yet I know we could just as easily turn Spurs over and not lose again this year. I mean, we've got the potential in all departments, right? So, if things are really this bad only two games into a new season, and it's not just a badly timed one off crappy result, where is all this animosity coming from and how have things become so strained? Oh to be a fly on the wall inside Old Trafford at the moment.

It really shouldn't have been a difficult two games. We should be beating Leicester and Brighton with some ease. Arsenal have had a difficult two games.

 

[Moonwalker]

what an idiotic reply.

It was in so far as it summarised an idiotic raw material.

 

[Whatsername]

Less Pre Madonnas more players to play for there badge rather the than their pocket.

What's a Pre Madonna? A Debbie Harry?

 

[cfkane]

Fred is new, with not too many games in the team, he can be forgiven, the rest of them need to pull their finger out.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

It was in so far as it summarised an idiotic raw material.

raw material derived from your obviously abject failure to grasp even an iota of what you responded to. Well done for proving you are indeed an idiot

 

[Backrow Singer]

Ultimately though, if you concede three goals in the manner that we did today, you won’t win many games of football. Straight away you’re asking yourself to score four goals, away from home, to win and it happens too often at this club. Bailly and Linderlof will obviously take the criticism but some of the work done in and around them was really, really poor as well, not just with regards to the goals but in general play. For one of the goals, someone played a ball into Fred (I think) when had half a team around him, we lose the ball and they score. The goal from the corner comes about because we lose the initial ball and can’t react. Shooting our selves in the foot.

Going forward, just really, really poor. Some of the passing today was a disgrace: too short, not too the feet, poor decisions being made. Rashford, Lakaku, Pogba, Young, Lingard to name five just seem incapable of making the correct decisions with the football. There were chances there today that didn’t even look like chances because we didn’t play the ball into the space, or we have the ball away. I honestly think that for us to get anything out of this season, Mourinho is going to have to babysit some of them because they aren’t good enough to play off the cuff.

Didn’t see many positives, thought Fred showed a few good signs but not many. Shaw was 6/10 at best but was probably our best performer because he didn’t make any drastic mistakes. That said, he made plenty of errors defensively but Brighton weren’t good enough to exploit them.

What hurts about today though is that the opposition didn’t need to play well to win, we handed them a couple of goals. For a team of that ilk to beat Manchester United, without playing particularly well, is really disappointing. They’ve scored three goals there without doing a great deal.

 

[liamp]

Less Pre Madonnas more players to play for there badge rather the than their pocket.

Pre Madonna

 

[StillPlayingFooty]

Jose looked like doing an old man at loss sketch. Mouth open and looking really confused after 2-0.

No energy or anything. Just old man's bewilderment trying to make sense of his surroundings.

That was one of the worst United performances I can remember. Even vs Sevilla there was a game plan, horrendous one, but there was one. Today Rick, Larry, Timmy and Oswaldo just got together for an ad hoc five-a-aside where guys bring their mates to fill the squad. United 11 looked literally like they had met 15 mins before the match.

 

[whatwha]

Less Pre Madonnas more players to play for there badge rather the than their pocket.

Prima donnas*
Their* badge

 

[Moonwalker]

raw material derived from you obviously abject failure to grasp even an iota of what you responded to. Well done

There wasn't much to grasp in your piffle ridden tirade.

 

[Jig1234]

Remember when we all used to like watching football?

 

[Striker10]

blessed..to not see the game. Bet the folk who thought it was smart not to moan about our summer are full of optimism now. We won our first game but in truth, we could easily have dropped points. Today I don't know. It's quite funny we've had two penalties in two games. That's quite generous of refs to give decisions. We're not going to challenge for the league. After two games we can say that. We lost - two seasons in a row to brighton because for two seasons seemingly the oppositions cared more.

Jose said it would be a difficult game but United have to remember the defeat prior and use it as fuel but conceding two goals relatively back to back probably means we didn't recover after the first (unless Brighton played everything perfect) and the players need to avoid these kind of things. Now we have Spurs coming up and we have made it a much harder game because the pressure is on and we cannot handle the pressure - so the support is important

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

There wasn't much to grasp in your piffle ridden tirade.

Of course you couldn't. 'There wasn't much to grasp' since you dont have anything to grasp it with in the first place. Actual substance is always greek to one without the ability to comprehend anything at all. That should be blindingly obvious. But that too you can't understand either

 

[manichester]

If in training we play attack against defense our defenders will look like gods, however when opponents press them in areal game they lack so much technical ability they panic.

We have 11 individual who go out without any understanding of what they are supposed to do and it has been like this for some time.

There was a previous thread which asked how many points would we have after the first three games, unhappily my prediction was 3 points which we are on target for.

There will have to be a major change in what we are doing to get anything from the Spurs game.

 

[Canagel]

Remember when we all used to like watching football?

You just have to make peace with it. This is our current level. These games you have to win to challenge for the league. We all pretty much agreed we had no chance of winning the PL when we started so I'm not sure why the outrage. We will lose more games like this during the course of the season.

 

[eldoherz]

Well that was painful to watch, completely outplayed and none of the flashes of potential we showed against Leicester.

We were outclassed all over the field by a team who would count their season a success if they finish higher than 18th.

 

[nore1975]

Utd were very poor. When you come to a place like Brighton you expect to be harried and hassled. I'm not sure the Utd players were up for it.

Mata out wide doesn't give you a lot. Matic badly missed in midfield. Lack of creativity and width. Easy to criticise Mourinho but that was a strong lineup and should have had enough in its locker to pick Brighton's pocket.

 

[Moonwalker]

Of course you couldn't. 'There wasn't much to grasp' since you dont have anything to grasp it with in the first place. Actual substance is always greek to one without the ability to comprehend anything at all. That should be blindingly obvious. But that too you can't understand either

Alright Chief, carry on with your 'substance'. Pleasure talking to you, adieu.

 

[mancan92]

Havent managed to watch game today... how did martial play. Honestly?

Didn’t do anything actively bad. Was ok but couldn’t get the ball in any decent positions to influence the game

 

[minoo-utd]

The board let the manager let the players let the manager let the board down today....it's just a circle of sh*t at the moment and they are all basically letting us down.

This. Can't blame one and let the others. Shame on them all. No hunger or desire left in the team. Don't know what is coming now?

 

[JonDahl]

That Lukaku chance to put us 1-0 cost us big time.

Same with his miss against Leicester could have avoided the tense finish.

Not criticising Lukaku but little things changes the whole complex of the match

I understand the sentiment but this for me is a key reason why we are so poor. We rely entirely on that Lukaku chance to give us a chance at the result we want, instead of having the ability and know-how to create more chances of similar quality, to lessen the pressure on the one chance that we do get. This has been the case since Fergie left. We no longer create 4, 5, 6 great chances anymore; we are lucky to get 2 in a single game.

 

[Rob]

I only saw the second half, and in the final 45 you were shocking. What struck me the most was how your players looked completely devoid of ideas as to how to open up Brighton and how little of a feck they seemed to give. Uninspired pass after uninspired pass and then lump it forward and hope for the best. In the end Brighton were almost toying with you. Could just be an off day, of course. Knowing Mourinho, he'll probably close down Spurs completely next weekend like he did with us.