[ZombieFootball]

A midfield of Matic, pogba and Fellaini says it all, no acceleration, not quick enough in the head and too imobile on top of that you have fullbacks who is almost in line with our cb, and a cb who is so poor with the ball that he has to adjust hes whole body just to make a pass behind the person hes aming at, how are we expecting anything in attack?

 

[ForeverUnited93]

Absolutely horrendous performance, but the thing is I actually expect this type of shit now, we’ve become a boring team to watch, for a while now too, just really despressing.

We show up against the big boys but then look like a Sunday league team against the bottom teams.

From this game I can safely say, cya Damian, Fellaini, Martial.

 

[Wanderlust_09]

If we play this way, there is no guarantee that we would even finish in the top 4 next season. We are the only team in the top 5/6 that does not have any identity going forward and purely depend on individual brilliances of DDG and momentary brilliances of our attacking players to win games. That is certainly not sustainable and I am really scared of our next season unless we make significant improvements in the squad this summer.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Anyone that doubts its player mentality and blames Jose, seriously check yourself.

One of them has won league title after title, cup after cup including multiple champions leagues.

How many of our players have such a proven winning mentality? And those we and Jose questioned...certainly haven't changed my mind today

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

It was crap; our players didn't look interested. We've lost to all three newly promoted teams, which isn't acceptable. I want to get this season done and, hopefully, see changes to the squad over the summer. If we can finish on a high with the F.A. Cup, all well and good. I'm a bit disheartened with it all just now; the excitement isn't there.

 

[.Rossi]

A lot of you overrate a lot of our players.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Newcastle, Huddersfield and Brighton away...

All losses. Cant believe it.

Embarrassing.

 

[Borden]

Rashford and Martial I'd imagine.

Yes, it was all some master plan to show the world how he's been right all along

 

[CA_vampire]

Thats exactly what he wants. You are fully convinced by one meaningless match?

I am convinced.

If you are young, and hungry, and want to prove to the world that you are great, then you should work hard and you should take advantage of any chances you get. If you can't, then "sorry son, you are not good enough".

We should not expect the manager to play the young till they prove they are trash. It is the other way around. It is the young players who have to PROVE they are worth a chance. And they have to grab that chance and prove they can do the job.

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

Utterly terrible, it's amazing how often these performances happen for a team in second place. The players that came in proved again that they're not good enough.

That is my main take from this. Our team isn't as good as Brighton. Jose's tactics were perfect. If we had people the quality of Grob, sidwell and murray we would have won the league. Jose is feeding off scraps.

 

[Seij]

Are we a fodder for the bottom table teams now?

"That Swansea City match is going to be really tough, but at least we have Manchester United coming up where we could pick up some points."

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

I am convinced.

If you are young, and hungry, and want to prove to the world that you are great, then you should work hard and you should take advantage of any chances you get. If you can't, then "sorry son, you are not good enough".

We should not expect the manager to play the young till they prove they are trash. It is the other way around. It is the young players who have to PROVE they are worth a chance. And they have to grab that chance and prove they can do the job.

This exactly. We have been playing the best football in the league with Sanchez and Lukaku. Today they were not present and we play like this. Sell Martial, Rashford, Shaw, Mc Tominay, Chong and Gomes.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Are we a fodder for the bottom table teams now?

"That Swansea City match is going to be really tough, but at least we have Manchester United coming up where we could pick up some points."

There seems to be complacency against the smaller teams in the league: we are slow in the build up and look as if we are playing well within ourselves. The players don't look fully motivated and seem to think they can get away with underperforming in this type of fixture. The away fans who spent a lot of time and money travelling to Brighton were badly shortchanged, not for the first time this season.

 

[Rajma]

Anyone that doubts its player mentality and blames Jose, seriously check yourself.

One of them has won league title after title, cup after cup including multiple champions leagues.

How many of our players have such a proven winning mentality? And those we and Jose questioned...certainly haven't changed my mind today

Same with LvG never understood how people have questioned him, he won titles in every country he has been to, since that’s how it works, right?

 

[KomodoBadger]

Disgusting

 

[arthurka]

Avocado and?

 

[Offside]

Imagine what Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Shaw would be like under a proper manager. Jose’s cowardly, defensive tactics may have improved our results, but it just isn’t justified when our local rivals are winning the league by a mile playing miles better football, and Liverpool are in the CL final playing entertaining, brilliant football. Jose actually needs to get lost to be quite honest. The common denominator since Fergie left has been shit, defensive football and all I want right now is to just support a Man United team again.

 

[danunited68]

Watched about 10 mins of this Dross i support.
To think we were once up there with Real,Barca,Bayern,and we now cannot beat the mighty Brighton.
Chelski must be rubbing their hands with glee for the FA cup final.

 

[tjb]

Imagine what Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Shaw would be like under a proper manager. Jose’s cowardly, defensive tactics may have improved our results, but it just isn’t justified when our local rivals are winning the league by a mile playing miles better football, and Liverpool are in the CL final playing entertaining, brilliant football. Jose actually needs to get lost to be quite honest. The common denominator since Fergie left has been shit, defensive football and all I want right now is to just support a Man United team again.

tired argument. What were they like under previous managers? Why do you think they would be so much better? In fact, didnt we just have a historically attacking manager in lvg?
Let me tell you what would happen. We would concede on the counter in every possession similar to arsenal under a klopp or wenger like manager. We would be boring and pass sideways with no chance creation under a pep, and under a mourinho or simeone we are what we are. Why? because our defenders are easily exposed one on one for what they are, we have no full backs, our young attackers are woefull overrated, and pogba wants to play as an attacker. Mourinho has managed to squeeze as much as he can out of this squad, that has performed like this for about five years...mourinho has won playing attacking football and defensive, while the players under him bar pogba were either bench players or have never won titles...so who is really to blame?

 

[cyril C]

A midfield of Matic, pogba and Fellaini says it all, no acceleration, not quick enough in the head and too imobile on top of that you have fullbacks who is almost in line with our cb, and a cb who is so poor with the ball that he has to adjust hes whole body just to make a pass behind the person hes aming at, how are we expecting anything in attack?

Funny, it is MF, CB and FB's fault for poor show in attack. How many time did Martial and Rashford have created chances for themselves and others? Mata did not help himself butI certainly agree with Mourinho that some of these young players don't deserve to start. Worse part was 2nd half, all to deaf ears.

 

[Nucks]

If the players try, and fail, and are clearly the better team, that's on the manager.

If the players don't try, and fail, blame should fall squarely on the players, and the manager should be questioned regarding the possibility he has lost the team.

At the same time, if the players have too much power, and decide to quit on anyone who doesn't fluff them before every game, then you also have a problem, an even bigger problem, and I think it's pretty clear this HAS been the problem with United since Fergie left.

Mourinho needs to go Conan the 'fecking' Barbarian on these guys, and start chopping the roster. So, has Mourinho lost the team? Maybe. Is the team behaving like a bunch of precious primadonnas? Yes. I'm going to side with Mourinho, he has taken us from not even qualifying for the CL, to 2nd place and a Europa League trophy with the shower of shit he inherited from LVG and Moyes.

 

[tjb]

If the players try, and fail, and are clearly the better team, that's on the manager.

If the players don't try, and fail, blame should fall squarely on the players, and the manager should be questioned regarding the possibility he has lost the team.

At the same time, if the players have too much power, and decide to quit on anyone who doesn't fluff them before every game, then you also have a problem, an even bigger problem, and I think it's pretty clear this HAS been the problem with United since Fergie left.

Mourinho needs to go Conan the 'fecking' Barbarian on these guys, and start chopping the roster. So, has Mourinho lost the team? Maybe. Is the team behaving like a bunch of precious primadonnas? Yes. I'm going to side with Mourinho, he has taken us from not even qualifying for the CL, to 2nd place and a Europa League trophy with the shower of shit he inherited from LVG and Moyes.

I agree. Mourinho has been too soft at utd. The fact he did not chop half of the squad when he came, especially in comparison with his reigns at chelsea and inter is testament to that. Pep has done that too. Maybe its the man utd culture or the fact that his previous reign at chelsea ended badly, but he has been uncharacteristically passive at utd. Its clear he is frustrated with the quality of the squad. A normal mourinho top team would not contain players are inconsistent and ill disciplined as players in our group. Hopefully this is the summer he really plugs the gaps in the squad. For me, even if mourinho does decide to quit after next season, if he builds a good squad out of the rubbish he came in to, he would have succeeded for me.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Same with LvG never understood how people have questioned him, he won titles in every country he has been to, since that’s how it works, right?

Erm great comparison... who'd he win the premier league with again? Jose on the other hand has a nice handful of English league titles. Very relevant here How many of our current squad have that experience? Certainly not the players in question. When this team can beat every other team in the league and then lose to all the newly promoted sides it's a player mentality issue. We have too much of the young and brash as well as weak minded festering around. Some of them need to grow up and others need to go.

 

[tjb]

Erm great comparison... who'd he win the premier league with again? Jose on the other hand has a nice handful of English league titles. Very relevant here How many of our current squad have that experience? Certainly not the players in question. When this team can beat every other team in the league and then lose to all the newly promoted sides it's a player mentality issue. We have too much of the young and brash as well as weak minded festering around. Some of them need to grow up and others need to go.

is it not possible that lvg was not a bad manager, just bad at signing players, and in fact his team lacked the quality to carry out his instructions in a quick and decisive manner. In fact was it not reported that our players did not like how much instructions he gave? Maybe LVG is still a good manager, as is Jose, and in fact we just have unintelleigent players that lack quality.

 

[Sterling Archer]

is it not possible that lvg was not a bad manager, just bad at signing players, and in fact his team lacked the quality to carry out his instructions in a quick and decisive manner. In fact was it not reported that our players did not like how much instructions he gave? Maybe LVG is still a good manager, as is Jose, and in fact we just have unintelleigent players that lack quality.

I actually don't disagree with you. Even then I think it was clear that there was a personnel attitude concern. It's just that a few other things didn't quite come together.

In any case, speaking sense as you have and defending LVG is typically ridiculed on this forum by quite a few here. They hold to their dogma whatever it is, climate change isn't real, evolution isn't real or some sort of football opinion of theirs is stone cold truth.

 

[Oldham]

This starting 10 (-ddg) should not collect their pay check this week.
On f. holidays wearing a United shirt.
Show some pride and put in a tackle or make a run...

 

[Pscholes18]

Don't fret all, he has a winning record against the other top five this season.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

So that's 7 defeats in the league this season?

That feels an unusually high number of defeats for a team in 2nd.

 

[donkeyfish]

So that's 7 defeats in the league this season?

That feels an unusually high number of defeats for a team in 2nd.

Previous five seasons have seen 2nd lose 4, 6, 6, 7 and 7.

 

[::sonny::]

 

[LeftyBlaster]

It is performances like this that show we are going nowhere near a title.

 

[Reyoji-Utd]

I think everyone needs to stop putting all the blame on JM. The players needs to face some consequences from their utter bad performances. These players really have no consequences at all if the season goes south, they know that majority of time the manager be sacked.

All parties needs to be in this together, if someone doesn’t buy into what the club or manager try to achieve then I think it’s time to sell some of those players off.

Some of our players don’t really care to try to play professionally in every game, a bit of anything happens to them, they’ll all sulk, no responsibility, no respect for club/fans (even if you not happy with tactic, playing time or whatever but should play to the best you can if you respect what you do).

This club right now cannot compete for any big competition yet because some of the mentality of our players are too soft and experience are not there. First step is them need to take responsibility, face consequences, work hard and every time when put on the shirt, be respectful to the club and fans, show some pride in what you do.

 

[Ekeke]

When Pogba has made the most tackles in your team with 2, there was probably something missing from that performance

 

[Kostur]

Dogshit performance, funny how like 7-8 players yesterday are bench warmers who had a chance to impress yet failed to look half bothered against Brighton. Knockaert made every single of our attackers look like pub players yesterday.

 

[GiddyUp]

A lot of you overrate a lot of our players.

I think most are starting to realize this now. This squad is full of players that just give a shit about themselves. Mourinho likes to allow his attackers to do their thing and at least be competent. Some of the shit we've watched this season has shown that these players are failing as professional footballers.
I've no problem with our defense or Matic. We are limited but concede feck all. But if we do let in that one or two goals I expect our attackers to pepper the opposition box with crosses and runs. I also expect our forwards and attacking mids to kill a team in the first 30 minutes so we can relax and enjoy the game while taking the pressure off squad players who need some easy minutes. This never happens and Mourinho is well aware of what has to be done this summer to rectify it.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Can this season end please..

 

[prateik]

I cant decide how much of it is down to us being shit and how much of it is players just not caring.
4th is in the bag. 2nd is almost certain. The season is over.

With the WC coming, players will just want to hold back and not risk an injury. It always happens. Arsenal and Liverpool have lost Ox, El Neny and Koscielny in the last 10 days to long term injuries and they'll all be missing the WC.

That shouldnt be an excuse. We should be winning these games.. But these are just training matches.. We just need a performance in the FA cup finals. If they turn up for that, its all good.
If not, get the pitchforks out.

 

[redIndianDevil]

He would have passed to Martial that's for certain.

It's not the managers fault Mata was awful all game and it's not the managers fault Rashford is brainless and selfish.

Yes Rashford made one mistake but it's not like we created a glut of chances and Rashford wasted them all. That was the only clear chance and we cannot even say we created it, their defender panicked and gave the ball away. The fact that we were unable to create chances is all on Mourinho and his coaching staff.

 

[meamth]

shyte performnace with nothing to play for. Then sum that up with desperate players trying to prove a point.

What you get is dysfunctional team.

I'm not worried to be honest, those comments about Mourinho is clueless are more worrying than last night.

Edit:
Those are players without form and sharpness. What does the caf expecting?

 

[Roosney]

That was horrible. To be fair it was a Moyes/LVG legacy team.