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Brentford 4:0 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Sat, 13 August 2022

If I were the Glazers I'd be very very worried about what might happen if we suffer a heavy defeat against the dippers in the next game.

Always remember, a dodgy regime falls quickly once momentum starts to build.

The momentum has started.

People are angrier now that they've been in a long time: so much so that Knighton has crawled out from under his stone to chance his arm again. That anger needs to be properly and constructively channelled. How that can be done, I don't know, but getting a fan consensus on some form of direct action would be a big step.
 
Bang on.
Nearly an entire generation of school kids has have grown up with Man United being a joke. There might be a couple at the end of their school terms who remember Fergie's last season in charge, but for the rest, United are something from a bygone era. We think we're the biggest club in the world, but an entire generation of kids will have known us as nothing but abject failures.

To be fair, Liverpool were an abject failure in the 90s and still maintained a large fanbase, as did Spurs.

Maybe things have changed now though. I think perception is reality, well projection is. Liverpool acted like a big club even when they had absolute jokers in their team (Anfield crowd, YAWN, bla bla bla). United have rolled over.
 
It doesn't need to stop. Their entire corner routine was built on isolating Martinez at the back post for an easy tap in header since Martinez couldn't reach it. Brighton's entire game plan was putting Welbeck on Martinez and pumping it to him for an easy knock down. You can't do that in the Prem.
So the solution is don't concede as many cheap feckin corners. How many goals did they score from corners today out of interest?
 
We really need a 0 on player ratings, feel dirty giving most of them a 1.
All I can say is please don’t turn on ETH he needs a free pass this season. No manager could get a tune out of most of these spineless cowards. He needs time to boot them out and bring his own players in.
 
Players who should never be in the 1st team ever again: Shaw, Maguire, Dalot, Mctomminay, Rashford. The others are heading in that direction too, no wonder we get spanked every week, we are weak and gutless and utterly clueless.
 
This does not surprise me, honestly I was looking at villa's line up today and I take about 8 of their players over ours, especially the keeper.
 
People are shitting in Rashford but Sancho is worse. Bundesliga shite yet again
 
Yes..... and some fans still fall for it :rolleyes:

Just put him out of his misery and bench him for the foreseeable future. Tired of it.
I mentioned earlier that ETH has been sold a pup. They will have made loads of promises. The players have fooled yet another manager that they are up to the task. The majority of this team needs to go. People need to bite the bullet and see what kind of side we put together. They won't though. The next fans favourite Poch or Graham Potter will be brought in and it will be the same again. Nothing will be achieved until we flush away these lily livered players who are not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as players from the past who did whatever it takes to win.
 
After the post-mortem on MUTV, they start showing grainy clips of Roy Keane scoring goals. Here you go, kids! We'll still sell you on the idea that this is Keane's United, we'll show you clips of Ole winning the Champions League! And it's fecking sad now. Just like Liverpool with 23 (?) years without a title, them keep going on about how they were great in the 80s, and we laughed at them. They were pathetic. Holding onto glories over a decade past is pathetic when the current team are in relegation form. 7 straight away losses, is it? Our worst points total last season? Woodward, and I mean no disrespect by this, can go blow a donkey. Him and the leeches/Glazers have killed the goose that lays the golden eggs. It was our football that brought success, the success brought money. Unlike Chelsea, Man City, and probably Newcastle in a couple years' time, we earned our stripes, we earned our fans, we earned our trophies.

All that is in ruins. We're Has Been FC. Banter FC. And it was clear when ETH was appointed 4 months ago a massive overhaul was needed, 6 players minimum, hopefully 9, and another 10 out the door. Everyone knew this. And yet we're made to feel content with 3 signings, one of which was free with a bum ticker, and two others unproven in this league. Massive overhaul.

This is fecking depressing. I'm sick of the bants every fecking week from my friends. Sick of watching the team just suck. Sick of watching the Glazers destroy this club.
Agree entirely. I've got a pal who supports Leeds and I get shit off of him. A fecking Leeds fan.
 
So we’ve got one of our most senior players saying that we’re basically lost at sea 2 games into the new season with a brand new manager.
Yes, it would have been better if he publicly named and shamed half the team, including himself, as abject wasters, and maybe thrown a few jabs at ETH and his coaches, then finished off his auto de fe with a broadside against the Glazers.
 
Would relegation be such a bad thing if it leads to the owners fecking off?

I would argue, no. We need a full reset from top to bottom. Get rid of our parasitic owners, get rid of the old guards (Fergie, Fletcher, Robbo, I don't care), the whole fecking lot. Juventus and more recently Rangers are good examples of how a full reset can be a good thing in the long run.
 
So we’ve got one of our most senior players saying that we’re basically lost at sea 2 games into the new season with a brand new manager.
People wonder why Maguire is still captain but realistically who else gets the armband when you have other senior players coming out with stuff like that?
 
No pun intended, but you're being short-sighted if you think height is everything. He's had 2 games ffs
 
Don't get Neville's point.

De Gea should be the headline today, nothing else.
He's saying that these players aren't good enough/mentally gone and need replacing. He's right. Rangnick told the club that we needed a new team. They sacked him for it. They don't want to spend what is needed for this team to improve.

De Gea is massive part of the shit. Our fans that think he's good are absolutely deluded.
 
Two games in and he already sounds like Ralf in his post match, don't blame him at all these players are pretty much dreadful across the board we all know this but i mean we needed this fire months ago he should have known this too.
 
Neville is going in on the Glazers on Sky and they're ganging up on him.
Why? They are terrible owners, we need someone highly qualified to build the team, nope he would want us to spend too much money too soon. This team almost needs the number of players Nottingham Forest have brought in but higher quality, that is probably being unfair on the players Nottingham Forest have bought.
 
Yes, it would have been better if he publicly named and shamed half the team, including himself, as abject wasters, and maybe thrown a few jabs at ETH and his coaches, then finished off his auto de fe with a broadside against the Glazers.

What would actually have been better is to at least give off the usual BS “we have to keep working” bollocks. Saying you don’t know is admitting that you’re absolutely shitting the bed and don’t have a clue as to how to stop.
 

Player Ratings

2.5 Total Average Rating

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Score Predictions

201,88,82
  • Man Utd win
  • Brentford win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 19% Brentford 1:2 Man Utd
  • 14% Brentford 1:1 Man Utd
  • 12% Brentford 1:3 Man Utd
  • 11% Brentford 0:2 Man Utd
  • 8% Brentford 2:1 Man Utd
  • 8% Brentford 2:0 Man Utd
  • 6% Brentford 2:2 Man Utd
  • 4% Brentford 0:3 Man Utd
  • 4% Brentford 3:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Brentford 0:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Brentford 0:4 Man Utd
  • 2% Brentford 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 5:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 4:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Brentford 2:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Brentford 3:2 Man Utd
Compiled from 371 predictions.
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Match Stats

  1. Brentford
  2. Man Utd
Possession
33% 67%
Shots
13 15
Shots on Target
7 4
Corners
8 2
Fouls
6 15

Referee

Stuart Attwell