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Bournemouth 2:2 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Sat, 13 April 2024

...but reactions from Garnacho kind of prove what many suspect: this group still likes to down tools on their manager, sit out the nice wages and wait for number 5 to appear.

In this case Ten Hag was right to sub Garnacho, even if I think Rashford and also Hojlund could have gone from the front line. Nevermind Casemiro. Bournemouth came on at a time when the play looked quite even and we haad more control on midfield than previous games.

INEOS should step up and give Ten Hag some backup to let these players know who pays their wages. And Garnacho liking tweets about him keeping Manchester up...come on. Ten Hag gave him chances ahead of first choice Antony, even if it often was on merit and Antony was the lesser player. It's not about saving Ten Hag, is about saving the club. It could also be him instead of Pelestri going on loan, you know.

I kind of take back my previous criticism on Bruno. It was almost 2 different groups of players: Bruno, Onana, Dalot, AWB, Hojlund (for all his aimless running, at least he did it) Maguire (awesome) and somewhat subdued Kwambala and Mainoo, vs Rashford, Garnacho, Casemiro.
 
Angry storms. Click bait nonsense. He basically blames injuries and youngsters though

I only posted it because I hadn't seen it anywhere on here.
The fact he walked out while they still had the mic on shows it wasn't as finished as ETH thought.
 
I only posted it because I hadn't seen it anywhere on here.
The fact he walked out while they still had the mic on shows it wasn't as finished as ETH thought.

Yeah nothing against you just standard nonsense from talksport. That channel is best ignored.

Seems ETH blaming and subbing the kids has led to a bit of backlash from the players. His days are numbered now. The one thing he had was support from his players and that seems to be diminishing by the game.
 
...but reactions from Garnacho kind of prove what many suspect: this group still likes to down tools on their manager, sit out the nice wages and wait for number 5 to appear.

In this case Ten Hag was right to sub Garnacho, even if I think Rashford and also Hojlund could have gone from the front line. Nevermind Casemiro. Bournemouth came on at a time when the play looked quite even and we haad more control on midfield than previous games.

INEOS should step up and give Ten Hag some backup to let these players know who pays their wages. And Garnacho liking tweets about him keeping Manchester up...come on. Ten Hag gave him chances ahead of first choice Antony, even if it often was on merit and Antony was the lesser player. It's not about saving Ten Hag, is about saving the club. It could also be him instead of Pelestri going on loan, you know.

I kind of take back my previous criticism on Bruno. It was almost 2 different groups of players: Bruno, Onana, Dalot, AWB, Hojlund (for all his aimless running, at least he did it) Maguire (awesome) and somewhat subdued Kwambala and Mainoo, vs Rashford, Garnacho, Casemiro.
You do talk some nonsense.
 
Didn’t watch the game but already knew what our performance would be like. We raise our game against Liverpool but are lackadaisical and disjointed against the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley and deservedly drop points. Nothing new or surprising about it - it’s been happening all season. Only thing happening different is people have realized we haven’t turned a corner. :lol:
 
Jamie Redknapp showing why he is regarded by many as the biggest bellend on tv. He just said, and I quote, “I can’t believe that penalty wasn’t given, I get that the foul was outside of the box but it should have been a penalty”
Makes Michael Owen look smart.
Maybe he has no faith in VAR to get things right?

or he’s just a nob

I hadn’t seen the footage until this, but to be fair to him he’s already leaving before the question is asked.
I believe it’s because If a foul is committed outside the area and it ends inside the area it’s a penalty.
 
That Bournmouth 2nd goal is laughable.

Sunday league defending.

Dalot got exposed at how bad of a defender he is in that game.
 
I believe it’s because If a foul is committed outside the area and it ends inside the area it’s a penalty.

No, usually the foul is given from where it started or happened. Foul and contact was outside the box, it is a foul, but it's not a penalty.

Utd were gash, to be expected, the defending for both Bournemouth goals was pathetic. No effort to put a body on the line to block a shot, was like they've been watching too much VVD.

If and when ETH goes, there's so many of these players that need to follow him it the door.
 
Another unimpressive performance but it's difficult to expect anything else at the moment. Fortunate to get the penalty and that Bournemouth seemed to run out of steam in the 2nd half.
 
Objectively Bournmouth were the better team, playing better football than a team which cost probably 5x as much to assemble, it is a result but as with pretty much every result we have had this season (barring odd games) we were lucky to come away with point(s)
 
Worst performance of a pretty terrible season IMO. Bruno played ok, rest of the team were varying shades of awful to average. I can't believe the coach waited to half time to make a change. We were mediocre but not bad 2nd half, truly dreadful first half, you don't need to wait until we're 2-1 down to make a change Erik.

I've been on the fence about Ten Hag leaving for a while now but yesterday was a "lost the dressing room" performance, appalling. I genuinely think Bournemouth were below their average and yet they still deserved to win.

Disappointed in Dalot in particular actually, hung Kambwala out to dry for that goal. Casemiro and Maguire I expect to feck up and let us down, Dalot I don't.
 
...but reactions from Garnacho kind of prove what many suspect: this group still likes to down tools on their manager, sit out the nice wages and wait for number 5 to appear.

In this case Ten Hag was right to sub Garnacho, even if I think Rashford and also Hojlund could have gone from the front line. Nevermind Casemiro. Bournemouth came on at a time when the play looked quite even and we haad more control on midfield than previous games.

INEOS should step up and give Ten Hag some backup to let these players know who pays their wages. And Garnacho liking tweets about him keeping Manchester up...come on. Ten Hag gave him chances ahead of first choice Antony, even if it often was on merit and Antony was the lesser player. It's not about saving Ten Hag, is about saving the club. It could also be him instead of Pelestri going on loan, you know.

I kind of take back my previous criticism on Bruno. It was almost 2 different groups of players: Bruno, Onana, Dalot, AWB, Hojlund (for all his aimless running, at least he did it) Maguire (awesome) and somewhat subdued Kwambala and Mainoo, vs Rashford, Garnacho, Casemiro.

Kwambala surely in the last group though? Directly responsible for both oppo goals, and he missed it being a third by inches. The first was a bit unlucky, but still.
 
Well, we went toe to toe with the mighty Bournemouth (weren't they in the Championship recently?).
They had 20 shots vs our 8.
I think this is now our level.

In the last few games we have had nothing but draws and losses.
I'm sure there will be fans who are happy with our current level, but I find it shocking that after spending so much money, Bournemouth is now our level.

I am perplexed why teams who have spent a fraction of what we spent are able to match us on the pitch and sometimes even dominate us.
By definition, we are badly run club.
 
I mean what hierarchy? There's no one left. The CEO and director of football are both gone and their replacements are either at other clubs or on gardening leave. Not surprising that ETH has the run of the place at the moment. God knows how shocking our transfer planning will be for the coming summer.

Normally, our transfer windows are terrible.
Given what you wrote, I expect this transfer window to be one of the worst in the last decade.
We'll likely spend a lot of money, offer huge wages and buy players who need to be sold the next transfer window.
 
All aspects of play were poor and the players conveyed no sense of urgency in delivering performances that would result in three points. The season can’t come to an end soon enough.

A decade of Brand FC management has been proven to be a colossal failure.
 
Worst performance of a pretty terrible season IMO. Bruno played ok, rest of the team were varying shades of awful to average. I can't believe the coach waited to half time to make a change. We were mediocre but not bad 2nd half, truly dreadful first half, you don't need to wait until we're 2-1 down to make a change Erik.

I've been on the fence about Ten Hag leaving for a while now but yesterday was a "lost the dressing room" performance, appalling. I genuinely think Bournemouth were below their average and yet they still deserved to win.

Disappointed in Dalot in particular actually, hung Kambwala out to dry for that goal. Casemiro and Maguire I expect to feck up and let us down, Dalot I don't.
Similar to what I think. Definitely the worst game of the season for me, and it wasn’t even a loss. We’ve been poor pretty much every week all season, but yesterday was somehow worse. There was an extra dimension of shite - basic football comprehension was even more lacking than usual.

Nobody played even half decent other than maybe Onana and Bruno, but this went beyond just not playing well. They didn’t even look like professional footballers at times, it was like watching a load of kids following the ball without any thought for formation or game IQ. Before they’re taught the basics like not letting the ball bounce in the six yard box, or closing the opposition down. The basics were just missing.
 
Seemed very little difference between the two teams apart from Utd’s weekly wage bill is almost 5 times higher than that of Bournemouth.
 
Seemed very little difference between the two teams apart from Utd’s weekly wage bill is almost 5 times higher than that of Bournemouth.
Hard to believe that Rashford earns the same as the top 7 best paid Bournemouth players combined wages or Casemiro earns the same as the top 6 but then again we are talking about United. What an absolute shit show we've created.
 
Hard to believe that Rashford earns the same as the top 7 best paid Bournemouth players combined wages or Casemiro earns the same as the top 6 but then again we are talking about United. What an absolute shit show we've created.
indeed. Just a bunch of greedy feckers milking the club for everything they can get.
 
Another game where we were seemingly always on the back foot, all over the pitch.

It's beginning to look like the old "we are on our way to Wembley... etc" story, nothing really to play for except a cup semi, then possibly a final, and doesn't it show in the attitudes of so called professionals. We can raise our game (and our luck) such as against Liverpool or Chelsea, but against such as Brentford, Bournemouth etc. all we have to do is turn up!!!

I did feel some sympathy for Bruno, Maguire and Onana who at times within the game must have felt they were playing Bournemouth on their own.

Rashford's body language was terrible, the only sign that he cared was when in possession facing the Bournemouth goal with three defenders in front of him and two United players either side of him unmarked, he tried to burst through the defenders for a shot; the ball was cleared quickly and on the transition it was 4 on 3 for Bournemouth. Marcus did however run 40 or 50 yards to try to make up for his loss... it was the only time in the game when he look like he cared.

What is the matter with him....? it isn't just his demeanor of 'not giving a monkey's', his football IQ has gone walkabout too!
 
Seemed very little difference between the two teams apart from Utd’s weekly wage bill is almost 5 times higher than that of Bournemouth.
Probably been posted but this is our level

 
Ive seen quite a few comments on social media from fans of other clubs complaining about our penalty being given and Bournemouths being over-turned, they seem to believe there is some kind of corruption in play and the refs are giving us dodgy decisions to help us qualify for Europe.
 
Ive seen quite a few comments on social media from fans of other clubs complaining about our penalty being given and Bournemouths being over-turned, they seem to believe there is some kind of corruption in play and the refs are giving us dodgy decisions to help us qualify for Europe.

It's nothing new... nothing to see... move on.... ABU's abound.

When was the last time we either got a penalty or didn't have one against us that didn't draw the usual comments?
"It's a fix".... "United get all the luck".... "Ref's are all breaking the rules..." etc.

If a United player 'broke wind' in the street it would be headline news, especially if he didn't apologise on every available media outlet within the hour.....:lol::lol:
 
Ive seen quite a few comments on social media from fans of other clubs complaining about our penalty being given and Bournemouths being over-turned, they seem to believe there is some kind of corruption in play and the refs are giving us dodgy decisions to help us qualify for Europe.
I'm sure they were as vocal about the three non-penalties Chelsea and the Scousers conned against us. Yep, the refs are desperate for us to get into Europe. :rolleyes:
Mind you such is the hate going around at the moment some of our fans would still rather blame United players than accept the truth clearly shown in videos.
 
I believe it’s because If a foul is committed outside the area and it ends inside the area it’s a penalty.
That's not how I was taught to referee, but who knows what the feck they are up to these days. It's the initial point of contact where the foul is ruled to have happened.
 
The Guardian says we had 1 goal attempt on target. How did Bruno score 2 goals then? Neither was an own goal.
 
You can question Dalot's decision to move out to cover the wide player, but when he does, Kambwala HAS to cover that gap, because no one else can. He didn't. So that's on him, to my mind.
 
You can question Dalot's decision to move out to cover the wide player, but when he does, Kambwala HAS to cover that gap, because no one else can. He didn't. So that's on him, to my mind.

Young lads need help from the experienced heads around them and Dalot is one of them. There's a fine line between trusting your teammates and exposing them, but Dalot stepped well the wrong side of it for me. Casemiro also nowhere in sight of course, it was a team effort that feck up.
 
Young lads need help from the experienced heads around them and Dalot is one of them. There's a fine line between trusting your teammates and exposing them, but Dalot stepped well the wrong side of it for me. Casemiro also nowhere in sight of course, it was a team effort that feck up.

Well, that would have meant giving them an unopposed overload. It wasn't a singular occurrence either, there were frequently acres of space down their left because the defensive line failed to push over. Not that we should be too harsh on Kambwala, he's young and will need time to adjust at this level. But whichever way you cut it, that goal is plainly on him.
 
So the players are downing tools because they don't like the manager? Fine. Sack ETH now and get Sam Allardyce in, a manager who is proven in getting 1-0 wins out of rubbish players. Sick of this team, i'm done.
 
Well, that would have meant giving them an unopposed overload. It wasn't a singular occurrence either, there were frequently acres of space down their left because the defensive line failed to push over. Not that we should be too harsh on Kambwala, he's young and will need time to adjust at this level. But whichever way you cut it, that goal is plainly on him.

Full backs being compact is not a problem, Evra always used to tuck in. If you're not sure leave the space on the outside not the inside.
 

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Score Predictions

93,29,21
  • Man Utd win
  • Bournemouth win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 34% Bournemouth 1:2 Man Utd
  • 11% Bournemouth 0:2 Man Utd
  • 10% Bournemouth 1:3 Man Utd
  • 10% Bournemouth 2:1 Man Utd
  • 8% Bournemouth 2:2 Man Utd
  • 5% Bournemouth 1:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Bournemouth 2:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Bournemouth 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Bournemouth 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 0:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 0:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 3:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 6:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Bournemouth 4:0 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Bournemouth
  2. Man Utd
Possession
43% 57%
Shots
20 8
Shots on Target
5 2
Corners
7 2
Fouls
13 14

Referee

Tony Harrington