[John XII]

How many people were embarrassed by the whole thing?

I had to change my name and move house.

 

[Real Name]

I had to change my name and move house.

No wonder, I mean the whole game was embarrassing, to come to Arsenal with a new manager who is still catching things, having more possession then them, stopping them to the point of them not having a single good chance and being outdone by stupid corners. It's a whole new level of embarrassment.

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

The corners were embarrassing by the end. They created next to nothing from open play yet could legitimately have won 6-0 just by scoring from corners.

I know they're good at them but we are allowed to try and defend them properly. We could also try not conceding about 15 corners to a corner gods team. Quite a few of them were very easily avoidable.

It's astounding how little in game management or basic sense our players seem to have.

It's a skill in itself. Just like attacking players should be primarily judged by how well they can apply their skills in tight spaces and with little time on the ball, at the highest level, a defender's job description should include "relieve pressure". What good is any defensive action, if it gives the ball back to the opposition and allows them to pile on the pressure?

 

[wolvored]

The first goal was Timber pushing off, and the second goal was an incredibly lucky carom off someone's ass. The only chances L'Arse had were corners. We were very good defensively. I don't see how any of that translates into Citeh killing us.

In fact, this was the first time in yonks I've felt confident in our defense and the set up of our side in our own half. You can definitely see what Amorim is doing and it is working defensively, even with a couple of key players out an others out of position. He will soon get it right in the oppo's half as we saw glimpses of against Everton

I never mentioned anything about City. I was implying every corner was dangerous. We had a lucky escape with a few of them.

 

[noodlehair]

It's a skill in itself. Just like attacking players should be primarily judged by how well they can apply their skills in tight spaces and with little time on the ball, at the highest level, a defender's job description should include "relieve pressure". What good is any defensive action, if it gives the ball back to the opposition and allows them to pile on the pressure?

It's not just that. From open play the defending was pretty good, amd we kept the ball OK. If it wasn't for the corners we did a good job on them.

But then it was what 13 corners? Over half of them they nearly scored from. It rendered the whole performance and game plan completely pointless.

Firstly I think it would have been quite easy to defend them better, amd secondly there were multiple times we seemed to purposely clear it off for a corner under nowhere near enough pressure to be forced to. Then the one they got the second goal from where Rashford was just being a complete twat.

You don't see this from other teams. Their players have a bit of sense and actually don't want to lose. We're OK until the opposition find a weak spot. Then instead of covering up or adjusting we just let them hit us there over and over

 

[Hoof the ball]

I know for certain that there's a lot of positives to take. Even my annoying Arsenal supporting cousin stated the following in a message :-

What a game. Man Utd have transformed. Didn't look like the old team play at all. the score is flattering as utd had a game plan to defend heavily but to convert defence into attack on getting possession. Utd First half 60% possession but were so defence minded they didn't threaten. New style bodes well, maguire is showing class and confidence now he knows he has team support defending. That second half pass upfield almost paid off.

 

[DevilRed]

How many people were embarrassed by the whole thing?

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

 

[Real Name]

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

I mean, this is satire. Right..?

 

[fergiewherearethou]

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

Your frustration is actually how I feel when we have 0 chance to get anything against a top team.
We've let ETH implode while we went downhill, just to prove what point exactly? That we give chances to managers?
Ole at least was realistic enough to know where we are at and set us up to counter attack that's why under him, we could beat any team.

 

[DevilRed]

I mean, this is satire. Right..?

You're happy we lost 2-0 to arsenal?

fecking state of that.

 

[Real Name]

You're happy we lost 2-0 to arsenal?

fecking state of that.

Oh I see. It isnt a satire. Should have known.

 

[Real Name]

Your frustration is actually how I feel when we have 0 chance to get anything against a top team.
We've let ETH implode while we went downhill, just to prove what point exactly? That we give chances to managers?
Ole at least was realistic enough to know where we are at and set us up to counter attack that's why under him, we could beat any team.

Time to go for Ruben?

 

[gerdm07]

The corner thing was just crazy, I don't recall other teams struggling like we did with them.

You'd think we'd have tried to stop giving so many away given what was going on.

It was just weird game, we were disappointing, but I wouldn't say it looked like Arsenal will be anything like title winners this season, it was just a very basic but very effective tactic that did for us, which is a bit worrying for both teams really.

I'm sure part of the game plan was to not give needless corners and this is why Rashford's mistake was so poor. I hope Amorim excoriated Rashford. The easy play was to hit it off the defender, but he decided to get cute.

 

[fergiewherearethou]

Time to go for Ruben?

Did I say that?
What I want is that if a manager does not improve the team in 1 year, he should go. We should just stop daydreaming or be Santa Claus of football clubs or we will win the next title in 30 years regardless of our financial power.

 

[Real Name]

Did I say that?
What I want is that if a manager does not improve the team in 1 year, he should go. We should just stop daydreaming or be Santa Claus of football clubs or we will win the next title in 30 years regardless of our financial power.

I really dont know what you mean by that?

Ruben just arrived, progress is visible, I dont where all this is coming from really.

 

[DevilRed]

Oh I see. It isnt a satire. Should have known.

Imagine being satisfied with mediocrity.

 

[Real Name]

Imagine being satisfied with mediocrity.

Thing is. I havent really said I'm happy nor satisfied but keep on going with the hysteria.

 

[RedRocket9908]

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

This was Ruben's first big test and he had the chance to make a statement by going there to attack and put Arsenal to the sword but instead he dropped the players that had been scoring most of the goals for us to the bench and set us up to play a cowardly defensive setup.

 

[TheReligion]

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

This is a shit post

 

[Tincanalley]

This was Ruben's first big test and he had the chance to make a statement by going there to attack and put Arsenal to the sword but instead he dropped the players that had been scoring most of the goals for us to the bench and set us up to play a cowardly defensive setup.

First real ignore.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

What a fecking ridiculous thing to say. Jesus.

 

[Red00012]

How many people were embarrassed by the whole thing?

I quit my job, told my family I wanted no part in their life any more and I’m currently residing in an under water bunker in the Persian Gulf.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

Chelsea’s first three results in the league under Maresca: W1D1L1.

United’s first three results in the league under Amorin: W1D1L1.

One of these managers spent weeks on the training ground with his team before those fixtures. One of them spent a few days.

The Liverpool mention is bananas as well. They were a very good team before their new manager started. We were mid table. And same rules apply re pre-season etc

 

[Irrational.]

I think we’ll beat them in the FA Cup.

 

[JoseM4]

I saw more progress in what we're doing

True but still in 13th place …..ughhh.

 

[Powderfinger]

I think Amorim genuinely surprised Arteta with his team selection and setup, which departed so much from his prior two lineups. Whether per Arteta’s instructions or just due to uncertainty, Arsenal approached the first half very cautiously. Credit to Amorim for setting his side up in a way that kept Arsenal from getting on the front foot.

By the second half, however, I think Arsenal had the game figured out, were able to play with more conviction, and it was pretty lopsided. The only exception was the ten minutes after the United triple change around 60 minutes, when Arsenal again retreated and focused on figuring out what was happening. But once Arteta decided how he wanted to respond and made the double change of his own around 70 minutes, Arsenal were back on top.

Overall, I think Amorim just has limited options due to the lack of quality up front. I understand the idea of dropping Bruno back but there’s just nobody that scares you as an opponent without Bruno playing near the goal.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Some absolute braindead takes here. No manager can survive under you lot. “Should have put Arsenal to sword”, “Liverpool are doing just fine”. Its like there is no sense of self awareness in regards to where Utd are and how crap these players are.

 

[Blood Mage]

How many people were embarrassed by the whole thing?

I wouldn't say embarrassing but it was pretty damn bad. They pissed all over us in the second half and would have destroyed us in open play if they had a striker.

 

[oz insomniac]

At the end of the day, none of these players were signed by the current manager, and for some reason most are at the Eredevise level, which means they have a lot of work to do if they are to reach EPL requirements.

Amorim is a confident manager who will use the current squad as a base for his style, guess we should expect a change of personnel as his requirements are met.

Don’t think most of us thought that ETH got recruitment correct, giving Amorim some licence to change things is necessary and not going to happen in a couple of weeks.

 

[Real Name]

I wouldn't say embarrassing but it was pretty damn bad. They pissed all over us in the second half and would have destroyed us in open play if they had a striker.

Strange take really. So only a lack of striker as you say was the reason they didnt create a single chance from open play?

 

[Sandikan]

I was.

Same shite every manager. Couldn't even eek out a draw.

Spent 600m in the last 3 years and we're even worse off than we were under Ole.

Do we need to spend a billion to get where chels is? How come their manager doesn't need any time for his players to adapt to his fecking system? Is it because they've got more players than staff?

What about the dippers? They have a new manager. Seems to be working wonders for them.

Embarrassing really.

Couldn't even eek out a draw away at little Arsenal, a ground we always win by loads and play them off the pitch. With them having such a weak team currently too.

And a full 4 games into the new manager's reign too, what an outrage!

 

[fergiewherearethou]

I really dont know what you mean by that?

Ruben just arrived, progress is visible, I dont where all this is coming from really.

I am talking about our previous managers that were given too much time and money to drag us into mediocrity.
I am obviously not talking about Ruben.

 

[Real Name]

I am talking about our previous managers that were given too much time and money to drag us into mediocrity.
I am obviously not talking about Ruben.

Fair play then.